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Any interest in original cab dimensions
« on: September 07, 2003, 09:23:24 pm »
Just curious--would anyone be interested in providing webspace to store original arcade cabinet dimensions?  i.e. you could build your own centipede, q-bert, pac-man etc. cab ala carsten's centipede--would anyone be interested in having those plans? (not by me exclusively as I only own 2 cabs)

I just thought that was a neat idea but difficult for people who don't have access to original cabs.

I could provide (upon serious request only):
q-bert
berzerk
tron
centipede
burgertime (peter pepper version)
turbo
pole position II
battlezone
fast freddie
tempest
neo-geo
asteroids (maybe)

Given the crackheads that are on E-bay I thought a disclaimer is warranted:

All drawings posted to this thread are the property of their respective posters (owner) and may not be sold or reproduced for commercial purposes without the express written permission of the creater (poster/owner) of the drawing.  This does not include the recreations of commercial cabinets as their trademarks are held by their respective companies.  

So in other word if I see any of my drawings or those of others shared with the community on e-bay I will asked that they be removed in violation of the above disclaimer--this will apply to commercially available cabinets as well, unless you can prove that atari or whomever has approved their design for sale.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2003, 09:45:39 pm »
I would gladly host the plans.

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2003, 11:02:37 pm »
  I would like to built a Tempest cab, so any dimensions you can get for that cab would be nice.

 

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2003, 11:04:45 pm »
I would be more than happy to throw a web site together and host everything.  It's an idea I have been thinking of for a while now.

If you are interested give me a shout lostboy@webxnetwork.com

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2003, 01:37:24 am »
I'm interested and I'll do anything I can to help.  I've only got a few "real" arcade games, but I'd be willing to help with that.
I have a Ms. Pac, Jr Pac (actually converted from a galaxian, so it's the same cab as pac man) and Baby Pac Man...while Baby is part pin, it still is a neat design and the pinball playfield leaves a lot of space for a CP.  
anyway, yes, there's interest  :D
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2003, 01:40:40 am »
I will knock something up over the next few days and we can see how it goes from there if you want.

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2003, 07:47:41 am »
ok--cool--wasn't sure if there would be any interest in this--I'll get the tempest dimensions next time I'm at my brothers place (its his as are most of the ones on the list :P).  We should also decide on a format to be used--I'm fluent in autocad and microstation but not many people are so we may need something more generic--thoughts?
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2003, 07:58:20 am »
I can provide some measurements (although not full plans) on request for the following cabinets.

ATW/Artic minis. (larger mini, holds a 19" monitor).

Kangaroo/Dig Dug/Centipede/Arabian (All used same cabinet).

Crystal Castles/Millipede (the upright Star Wars cabinet shares most of the measurements with these two).

The Standard Midway 8080 cabinet (Amazing Maze, Asteroid, and about 20 other pre-invaders games). Think "Short, wide, and no marquee" This one would be VERY easy to build. If you are unsure of your skills, then go with this one.

Battlezone - Only good thing about this cabinet is the step, makes it good for a household with both kids and adults.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2003, 09:25:16 pm »
i can help out here i got 20 mg webspace you can use for a bit of storage,i also got a pacman cocktail,a orignal tekken2 monster cab ,a space invader,and i hope soon a defender cab

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2003, 09:49:54 pm »
Cool--since  have absolutely no idea how to create a webpage  ??? What format for the drawings would be easiest to store, take up the least space and be easily managed--I was thinking just Jpg's of drawings would work okay with legible dimensions--that way if you have no cad experience whatsoever you could hand draw it and then scan it in--it would have to be somewhat to scale or at the very least very well dimensioned--since thats the point.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2003, 09:51:03 pm »
here's rough draft of my cab jpg.  I haven't included the front view cause no one but me would ever want to build this monstrosity  ;D
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2003, 12:09:52 am »
When they come out of storage I'd be happy to contribute measurements of my Karate Champ Vs. machine, and my Atari Football cab.

Of course, I have to find a house first...

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2003, 02:02:49 am »
I can do measuements of my double dragon II cab which will cover ALOT of games :)  
i hav rough measurements now as that is my microcab I am doing for the contest.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2003, 02:04:05 am »
I can pitch in with dimentions as I have an Asteroids and a Mortal Combat 4. Both full size uprights. :)
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2003, 02:29:14 am »
Kangaroo/Dig Dug/Centipede/Arabian (All used same cabinet).
you have Arabian?  man, you reminded me that game exists.  Well, gotta go try it out in mame.

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2003, 02:32:57 am »
Kangaroo/Dig Dug/Centipede/Arabian (All used same cabinet).
you have Arabian?  man, you reminded me that game exists.  Well, gotta go try it out in mame.

No, I don't have an Arabian. I have a Kangaroo, it is just the same cabinet. I do know someone who has one though (Stephen Hulett, aka noice87, aka 73ford.com, also known as the guy with the Moppet video fetish).
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2003, 02:32:59 am »
I have an A.P.B. to add.
Next I'll be on fries, and that's when the big money starts rolling in.

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2003, 07:09:40 am »
alright--now we're picking up steam--I will start posting here and if someone wants to dedicate a little webspace later and pluck them that would prolly be the easiest--we all have lives outside of MAME (at least most of us do ;D) so we'll go nice and easy.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2003, 07:49:28 am »
Oh, and since I still have them kicking around, you can add the early Sega/Gremlin mini (Turbo, Space Firebird, Monaco GP, and others), and a generic Cherry Master cabinet (No marquee, all doors) to the list.

I DOUBT anyone would want to build a 13" Centuri cocktail, but I do have one of those as well. It really has too much metal and glass for the average home builder to mess with.

You might want to get in contact with kspiff if you want measurements for the best 19" cocktail design around (the Cinematronics one). The reason I say it is the best design is because it has a pair of 24" wide control panels, and it takes the monitor in either orientation (which puts the always popular Midway cocktail to shame).
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2003, 09:46:12 am »
ooooh--that does sound like a nice one to have--whether he's willing to take dimesnsions and draw a nice picture is another thing thougy!  Keep the fingers crossed.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2003, 09:51:50 am »
I can do a Moon Patrol, and a Dynamo cab, but I'm unsure how to measure the angles.

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2003, 03:40:48 pm »
Peale, you dont need to worry about the angles.  Just measure all the lengths of all the straight edges and the angles can be determined mathematically.  Its like in construction, someone doesnt measure the pitch of a roof by measuring it's angle.  They measure its rise and run and then use math to determine the angle.  You could just measure all the straight edges on your cabinet and post it and someone will figure out the rest for you.

Who is heading up this project and who is hosting the files?
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2003, 03:52:04 pm »
I don't know if anyone really needs to head the project since we'll just be posting drawings with dimensions--I'm in no position to check for accuracy outside the 2 machines I own and the 6 I have access to.  We might be better off left in the forum so that others with machines can check and maybe correct anything they catch.  sound reasonable?

Here's a rough q-bert--I've ommitted coin door and marquee--since they are fairly standard--If you absolutley HAVE to have everything ...(go buy one  ;)  j/k)
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2003, 08:12:23 pm »
Unless someone else particularly wants to do it, I would be more than happy to host these.   I've started it on the cabinet's page:

http://www.arcadecontrols.org/arcade_cabinet_plans.shtml#dimensions
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2003, 09:31:54 pm »
congrats manic you made fisrt cab plan ;D ;D ;D :o :o
i get to work on one of my cabs and get a pic posted

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2003, 12:04:16 am »
I can do a Moon Patrol, and a Dynamo cab, but I'm unsure how to measure the angles.

I'll do the dynam cab, I have most of the measurments right now anyway :)

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2003, 12:04:59 am »
Saint,  side shots aren't a enough for many cabinets.

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2003, 12:36:47 am »
I can donate the dimensions for a pac man cab. 1up might have that covered though.

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2003, 03:57:53 am »
I'm late!

I've got an autocad-file of the Centipede upright cab - even with correct roundings. Just have to look at home for the correct version, but I could post it here. :)

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You could grab the dimensions of the cab from my homepage, look under fist drawings :)
It contains a .jpg and a table showing the regarding dimensions.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2003, 10:35:18 am »
I could grab some dimensions on my Xmen cab when I go home this weekend. It may not be as 'classic' as some others, but the design does seem pretty popular with some people here.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2003, 11:31:09 am »
Updated with Carlos' Centipede - thanks Carlos!  And in answer to other questions...

SP: Nod, front dimensions would be useful too I agree.

Donators: Thank you, yes please do measure your cabinets and post or send them in. If you can get the front as well that'd be great.  Thanks!

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2003, 01:18:21 pm »
....
Kangaroo/Dig Dug/Centipede/Arabian (All used same cabinet).

Paige,

   Actually, I can't speak for Arabian but Centipede definitely has a different cabinet than Dig Dug and Kangaroo (control panel is smaller, doesn't stick out as far).

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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2003, 03:31:12 pm »

Looking carefully at all four cabinets on Klov shows that there seems to be a tiny difference in the shape of the wood on the sides, but I believe they all still use the exact same sized glass, control panels, marquees, and so on, so parts like that should swap around between cabinets (I have certainly seen several Kangaroo's "restored" to Centipede in the past, so I know the parts must fit.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2003, 04:19:59 pm »
Donators: Thank you, yes please do measure your cabinets and post or send them in. If you can get the front as well that'd be great.  Thanks!

Sent where?  Direct to you?  I'm going to measure my Reactor cab when I get home.  I'll post them as soon as I can get them together.
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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2003, 04:35:11 pm »
Post here would be best, but you can also email to me at saint@arcadecontrols.com ... Thanks! :)

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Donators: Thank you, yes please do measure your cabinets and post or send them in. If you can get the front as well that'd be great.  Thanks!

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2003, 07:32:19 pm »
Defender cabinet dimensions can be found here:
http://www.arcaderestoration.com/index.asp?OPT=3&CBT=66 (also see this thread).  My MAME cabinet is a modified Defender cabinet and I can verify that these are correct.

Also I noticed some dimensions for a Galaga/Ms PacMan and a Galaxian/PacMan cabinet here:
http://retro.co.za/arcade/cabinet.html

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2003, 07:07:48 pm »
My mate is building a TRON cab at the minute, and needs the plans. He alreay has the control panel with stick and spinner, and jest needs some cab schematics - so if anywaone could oblcige I'd be grateful on his behalf.

I dont have room for a full cab, but I am building a MAME loaded PC *inside* a 2 player control panel. Spent all day cutting and drilling, tomorrow the assembly begins.

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2003, 12:06:37 am »

I DOUBT anyone would want to build a 13" Centuri cocktail, but I do have one of those as well. It really has too much metal and glass for the average home builder to mess with.


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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2003, 03:21:02 pm »
them defender plans are a mess

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Re:Any interest in original cab dimensions
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2003, 02:15:56 am »
Okay so I used to do a lot of AutoCAD for a living and could easily draw up all of these plans in a standard format that anyone could use and read easily.  And then I could host them on my website (cause wading thru this thread, I can't tell where these things are being hosted).  I could do some major cleanup work on these drawings and if anyone wanted me to draw up some plans from scratch I could easily do that too.  I could host the Autocad files and maybe PDF conversions of everything too.  Would anyone be interested in me doing this?