Author Topic: JERSEY JACK PINBALL (Read 66086 times)

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #80 on:** June 29, 2011, 02:24:57 pm »

Quote from: RayB on June 28, 2011, 10:57:11 pm

my Road King

I can has?

lilshawn · « **Reply #81 on:** June 29, 2011, 06:05:11 pm »

Quote

Scared Stiff, NASCAR, Junkyard, Twilight Zone, World Poker Tour, Williams Indiana Jones. Can't stand any of those and the local ice skating rink, of course, has two of them side by side.

well given the choice between ice skating and pinball... I would choose pinball.

granted I don't own a pair of ice skates, and I would have to rent a pair *shudders*

back OT... yes the WOZ theme is bad, but given that "Sterns" money has about run out, and Tron might be the last machines from Stern we see... ya gotta give it to Jersey Jacks for digging deep to pull this one out.

TOK · « **Reply #82 on:** June 30, 2011, 05:45:34 am »

Quote from: lilshawn on June 29, 2011, 06:05:11 pm

back OT... yes the WOZ theme is bad, but given that "Sterns" money has about run out, and Tron might be the last machines from Stern we see... ya gotta give it to Jersey Jacks for digging deep to pull this one out.

Say what? Stern hired back one of the greatest pinball designers of all time and have 3 rumored games in the works... Its never going to be the mid 80's/early 90's again, but pinball seems to be on a bit of a rebound.

pinballjim · « **Reply #83 on:** June 30, 2011, 09:34:58 am »

Quote from: TOK on June 30, 2011, 05:45:34 am

Say what? Stern hired back one of the greatest pinball designers of all time and have 3 rumored games in the works... Its never going to be the mid 80's/early 90's again, but pinball seems to be on a bit of a rebound.

Are you one of those guys that buys a game and then posts on RGP "interest seems to be up a bit on this title"? (marketers call that selective distortion, btw)

Stern ran Steve Ritchie off because every single one of his Stern games is mediocre and none of them sold very well. No idea why they brought him back, but given that he was liquidating everything he owned a couple years ago, I imagine he's broke and willing to work cheap.

TOK · « **Reply #84 on:** June 30, 2011, 11:45:16 am »

Quote from: pinballjim on June 30, 2011, 09:34:58 am

Are you one of those guys that buys a game and then posts on RGP "interest seems to be up a bit on this title"? (marketers call that selective distortion, btw)

Stern ran Steve Ritchie off because every single one of his Stern games is mediocre and none of them sold very well. No idea why they brought him back, but given that he was liquidating everything he owned a couple years ago, I imagine he's broke and willing to work cheap.

Thats a big "Nope" to your question. I'm actually not crazy about most Steve Ritchie games, other than F-14. I just know a lot of other people are.

Edit: messed up quote tag.

Jeff AMN · « **Reply #85 on:** June 30, 2011, 06:04:56 pm »

Cirqus Voltaire might be one of the most overrated pins of all time. It's gorgeous, but it's a bit of a stinker in regards to play. I've tried it many times, never once thought it was any good.

TOK · « **Reply #86 on:** June 30, 2011, 06:28:37 pm »

Pic of the full playfield, minus inserts.

lilshawn · « **Reply #87 on:** June 30, 2011, 07:06:15 pm »

it really doesn't look that bad, stuff changes. but all in all it's a thumbs sideways for me.

wait an see.

ChadTower · « **Reply #88 on:** June 30, 2011, 08:10:38 pm »

That sort of looks like Super Mario Bros.

pinballjim · « **Reply #89 on:** June 30, 2011, 08:27:11 pm »

Simpsons 2: Over the Rainbow

Q*Bert_OP · « **Reply #90 on:** June 30, 2011, 09:13:25 pm »

I see the Mark Ritchie "X" $:-\$

TOK · « **Reply #91 on:** June 30, 2011, 09:20:02 pm »

Looks like the playfield has a Good and Evil side, which could be kind of cool. Despite not loving the Wizard of Oz theme and knowing I would never drop 7 grand on a game of any type, I still think its neat to watch this progress.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #92 on:** July 01, 2011, 08:45:19 am »

Drawings and pictures are nice but if this game is going to be under your Christmas tree this year I think they better start getting on with some physical production.

pinballjim · « **Reply #93 on:** July 01, 2011, 09:39:17 am »

Quote from: smartbomb2084 on July 01, 2011, 08:45:19 am

Drawings and pictures are nice but if this game is going to be under your Christmas tree this year I think they better start getting on with some physical production.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #94 on:** July 01, 2011, 04:48:34 pm »

Are you agreeing with me or slamming me or both?

pinballjim · « **Reply #95 on:** July 01, 2011, 04:59:10 pm »

Agreeing 100%. They're going to have to start moving really, really quickly....

TOK · « **Reply #96 on:** July 01, 2011, 05:02:25 pm »

I was wondering if they're actually further along and purposely trickling the info out. They released the full playfield art to coincide with the end of the pre-order special. Just a thought, no facts to base it on.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #97 on:** July 01, 2011, 05:08:20 pm »

I am hoping you are right. Only let out enough info to keep 'em guessing. On the other hand, they may have bitten off more than they can chew and what's been released is all they have, which is fine, just don't rush it to make some deadline that may be unrealistic.

ChadTower · « **Reply #98 on:** July 01, 2011, 06:18:01 pm »

Pretty easy to meet deadlines you can set for yourself.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #99 on:** July 01, 2011, 06:55:50 pm »

Just like you always meet your self-imposed deadlines. I know I always do!

Didn't you say your fantastic body wasn't perfect?

pinballjim · « **Reply #100 on:** July 01, 2011, 07:46:59 pm »

Quote from: smartbomb2084 on July 01, 2011, 06:55:50 pm

Didn't you say your fantastic body wasn't perfect?

Well, yeah, but my dick works and I can wipe my own ass.

ChadTower · « **Reply #101 on:** July 01, 2011, 09:11:36 pm »

Quote from: smartbomb2084 on July 01, 2011, 06:55:50 pm

Didn't you say your fantastic body wasn't perfect?

I think when I said that I was talking about Hilary Swank.

Not sure what jim is on about.

pinballjim · « **Reply #102 on:** July 01, 2011, 09:50:52 pm »

Lol wut?

RayB · « **Reply #103 on:** July 02, 2011, 03:46:06 pm »

The problem with deadlines when working on a new product is you don't know what you don't know. There can be all sorts of production caveats that they will blindly run into and slow production down. Unless of course the team they hired is experienced enough to know the caveats.

amendonz · « **Reply #104 on:** July 02, 2011, 03:56:48 pm »

The aussie distributor says production isn't till december so unlikely done before christmas

TOK · « **Reply #105 on:** July 02, 2011, 05:55:39 pm »

Quote from: RayB on July 02, 2011, 03:46:06 pm

The problem with deadlines when working on a new product is you don't know what you don't know. There can be all sorts of production caveats that they will blindly run into and slow production down. Unless of course the team they hired is experienced enough to know the caveats.

I don't know about the manufacturing, but the designing crew is all very experienced:
http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/ourteam.asp

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #106 on:** July 12, 2011, 06:30:30 pm »

Just passin' it on here...

http://www.pinballnews.com/games/wizardofoz/index4.html

pinballjim · « **Reply #107 on:** July 12, 2011, 11:51:46 pm »

Oh, awesome, he's got Matt Riesterer on his team. That's the guy that sells all those awful pinball mods... and saw fit to send out e-mails to collectors trying to unload all his junk for cash to hide it from his wife during their divorce.

Q*Bert_OP · « **Reply #108 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:53:29 am »

Matt's a great guy and his mods are awesome! Just look at what was my CSI.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #109 on:** July 25, 2011, 09:19:13 am »

UPDATE...

http://www.pinballnews.com/games/wizardofoz/index5.html

JeepMonkey · « **Reply #110 on:** July 25, 2011, 10:27:55 am »

Does the ball exit the munchkinland ramp toward the upper right flipper? Maybe it is designed as a munchkinland / witch combo shot?

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #111 on:** July 26, 2011, 08:34:57 am »

It does kind of look like the munchkinland playfield does exit to the upper right flipper. If you look at the full playfield drawing that TOK provided in this thread previously it also looks like there may be a playfield magnet just above the upper right flipper to stage the ball for the next shot.

For our $7500 suggested retail price I want to know if were are going to get dedicated Williams' type lamp boards for playfield inserts or are we going to get the crappy STERN individual plastic ones that are already brittle and breaking on our SHARKEY'S SHOOTOUT.

TOK · « **Reply #112 on:** July 30, 2011, 11:20:35 am »

Quote from: RayB on June 06, 2011, 10:17:58 pm

So by the looks of that drawing, it's going to be a widebody?

Looks like you were right! I think a message was sent out to buyers today indicating that it is a widebody.

pinballjim · « **Reply #113 on:** July 30, 2011, 02:42:16 pm »

That's a shame, widebodies are rarely any good (and Williams didn't make the few fun ones, either)

You've got decades of R&D involving every aspect of game play, and then decide to expand the playfield size but keep the ball, coils, targets, etc all the same size.

Ah well, Qbert, you buying?

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #114 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:17:05 am »

Here is a FULL playfield picture---mostly. http://www.pinballnews.com/games/wizardofoz/index6.html

ChadTower · « **Reply #115 on:** July 31, 2011, 12:24:37 pm »

Those shoes on the flippers gotta go.

pinballjim · « **Reply #116 on:** July 31, 2011, 03:47:28 pm »

This thing looks more and more like a trainwreck nightmare with every update, to be honest. $:-\$

lilshawn · « **Reply #117 on:** July 31, 2011, 04:14:24 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 31, 2011, 12:24:37 pm

Those shoes on the flippers gotta go.

+1... they look awkward.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #118 on:** July 31, 2011, 05:05:34 pm »

It looks like it is too open in the center and too clogged up on the sides.

There is a lot of pressure on the undisclosed FLYING MONKEY feature to be something stupendous if it is to save this game from the looks of things so far.

I agree... the Ruby Slipper flippers gotta go...now!

Jeff AMN · « **Reply #119 on:** August 01, 2011, 02:39:22 am »

I'm hoping that the slippers on the flippers are a bit of a wink instead of what they're really planning on doing. That looks bad.

I don't worry about it being a widebody. I've owned a few, but Twilight Zone is the only one I've kept around as it's basically the only one that I've enjoyed and my guests liked. I don't think there's anything inherently bad with a widebody concept, but the space has to be used well.


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