Author Topic: JERSEY JACK PINBALL (Read 66006 times)

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 29, 2011, 03:55:22 pm »

So far "thing" is the best description yet for this... 'thing'.

Although I would PLAY it just to check it out and see how far off that $7500 suggested retail price is.

We can't get any ops around here to spend $4700 on a new STERN let alone $7500 for this 'thing'.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 29, 2011, 04:14:25 pm »

We have this 128 X 32 LED display:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bally-Williams-Pinball-PinLED-128x32-Dotmatrix-Display-/330325154213?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ce8e9d9a5

And we have this 128 X 32 LED display:

http://www.vishay.com/displays/graphic-led/

The first one has 16 separate 16 x 16 displays added together and the second one has 64 separate 8 X 8 displays added together.

RayB · « **Reply #42 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:37:06 pm »

$219 for that while a comparable size "monitor" solution would cost under $100 wholesale...

I wonder if their choice of going 26" will cause heat issue.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 31, 2011, 08:34:45 am »

That's a $219 RETAIL price. Wholesale for a LED Dot Board is probably similar but a retail price for a monitor, especially a coin-op one, will likely be more.

Here's a link for a cheapo Vision Pro monitor from Happ Controls. It is only 22 inches and the price is $425.00. A similar consuner product WITH a Tuner and sound and related electronics is likely half that price retail.

http://www.happcontrols.com/wp/item_search.p?ITEM-NO=49-10441-00

You do have to cosider though that for your extra money you are getting a larger display with REAL video not four shaded color dot animation in 'beautiful' orange.

studmuff · « **Reply #44 on:** June 06, 2011, 03:14:42 pm »

Some pics of the lower left playfield corner. After ball falls down outlane, there is a bumper and 6 targets.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63736421@N07/

TOK · « **Reply #45 on:** June 06, 2011, 03:30:07 pm »

Quote from: studmuff on June 06, 2011, 03:14:42 pm

Some pics of the lower left playfield corner. After ball falls down outlane, there is a bumper and 6 targets.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63736421@N07/

This is a pretty neat idea. If you could hit all the targets on the way down and it gave you a Shoot Again, that'd be pretty badass.

pinballjim · « **Reply #46 on:** June 06, 2011, 03:41:05 pm »

It is a neat idea, but it's also the same idea he had for Pirates of the Caribbean and you could argue it's old hat if you look at enough EMs.

Anyway, I'm just hoping he puts enough flashing LEDs on it that Qbert will buy one....

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #47 on:** June 06, 2011, 06:04:12 pm »

So, if we have to spell W-I-Z-A-R-D with the left drain I take it that we have to spell O-F-O-Z with the right?

Talk about being obvious and asking dumb questions....

RayB · « **Reply #48 on:** June 06, 2011, 10:17:58 pm »

So by the looks of that drawing, it's going to be a widebody?

ChadTower · « **Reply #49 on:** June 07, 2011, 07:48:55 am »

I'm not even really paying attention until I see a whitewood.

studmuff · « **Reply #50 on:** June 07, 2011, 10:08:47 am »

Quote from: RayB on June 06, 2011, 10:17:58 pm

So by the looks of that drawing, it's going to be a widebody?

How can you tell by the picture it is going to be a widebody pin?

RayB · « **Reply #51 on:** June 07, 2011, 10:43:04 pm »

Quote from: studmuff on June 07, 2011, 10:08:47 am

How can you tell by the picture it is going to be a widebody pin?

I'm guessing based on the # of lanes in lower left, and comparing it to a Williams Road Kings. Of course the flaw in my comparison is whether or not modern pins (ie: Sterns) are wider or same width as an old Williams from the 80's.

pinballjim · « **Reply #52 on:** June 07, 2011, 11:56:04 pm »

Same width but $10 says this game isn't a widebody.

RayB · « **Reply #53 on:** June 08, 2011, 01:26:57 pm »

Here's how it lines up on a RK playfield:
(The red lines indicate the limits of the RK playfield width)

studmuff · « **Reply #54 on:** June 09, 2011, 05:52:37 pm »

Quote from: RayB on June 08, 2011, 01:26:57 pm

Here's how it lines up on a RK playfield:
(The red lines indicate the limits of the RK playfield width)

Certainly a possibility. I am going to lay down the cash for WOZ. We'll see if it's worth it.

Pinball Wizard · « **Reply #55 on:** June 19, 2011, 12:41:45 pm »

Not a widebody, it's the same cabinet as cactus canyon apparently.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #56 on:** June 20, 2011, 09:02:41 am »

It's mini playfield time...

http://www.pinballnews.com/news/jerseyjack7.html

pinballjim · « **Reply #57 on:** June 20, 2011, 09:17:50 am »

I'm still having a huge problem getting excited about this theme. Though if they can sell half as many as Wicked manages to sell licensed crap, then maybe they're onto something.

RayB · « **Reply #58 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:34:23 pm »

Pinball Wizard · « **Reply #59 on:** June 20, 2011, 10:57:42 pm »

Apparently he had over 400 preorders before any picture, artwork, etc. We're released. Thats a lot of money to throw out on something you never even saw.

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #60 on:** June 21, 2011, 03:20:43 am »

I believe the preorder syndrome is merely because its something rare. That some collectors believe the pins will gain in value over the years.

Of course, there are those who intentionally buy machines to keep the industry alive. Ive seen it from local collectors. While I appreciate their efforts... their money deserves much more than what even this machine will probably end up offering.

I do like the drain target feature. Thats the most innovative thing seen on a machine in a long time. But, the horrible theme kinda kills any drive to want to play it.

pinballjim · « **Reply #61 on:** June 21, 2011, 09:21:49 am »

Quote from: Pinball Wizard on June 20, 2011, 10:57:42 pm

Apparently he had over 400 preorders

Sure he did. He also used to hype the hell out of Stern games and has done nothing but talk crap about the same titles since he's headed out on his own from what I've read.

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #62 on:** June 21, 2011, 05:20:00 pm »

Sounds like a sound business practice to me...

pinballwizard79 · « **Reply #63 on:** June 22, 2011, 09:52:32 pm »

Haters gonna hate...

Pinball Wizard · « **Reply #64 on:** June 25, 2011, 09:14:59 am »

Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 21, 2011, 03:20:43 am

I believe the preorder syndrome is merely because its something rare. That some collectors believe the pins will gain in value over the years.

I know that inflated the numbers, but man I wishihad that much money to blow on a sight unseen product.

amendonz · « **Reply #65 on:** June 25, 2011, 07:27:58 pm »

themes a bit lame. but this pins starting to sound pretty sweet with all the toys/tech

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #66 on:** June 28, 2011, 02:16:49 pm »

Quote from: amendonz on June 25, 2011, 07:27:58 pm

themes a bit lame. but this pins starting to sound pretty sweet with all the toys/tech

Gotta agree... nothing screams 2011 and the "future of pinball" like a 50+ year old wore as all hell theme...

ChadTower · « **Reply #67 on:** June 28, 2011, 04:14:26 pm »

Quote from: FrizzleFried on June 28, 2011, 02:16:49 pm

Gotta agree... nothing screams 2011 and the "future of pinball" like a 50+ year old wore as all hell theme...

Sorry Rolling Stones!

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #68 on:** June 28, 2011, 05:24:13 pm »

Exactly...

It's obvious that "old people" are making decisions.

I mean... think about it. The key to pinball's survival is NEW PLAYERS. Do you really think THE ROLLING STONES or WIZARD OF OZ themes are going to pull in new players?

How about a RELEVANT theme for the times you old farts?

smartbomb2084 · « **Reply #69 on:** June 28, 2011, 05:26:04 pm »

The curtains continue to come down...

http://www.pinballnews.com/games/wizardofoz/index2.html

ChadTower · « **Reply #70 on:** June 28, 2011, 06:15:18 pm »

Pay no attention to what's behind that curtain.

Duh.

Donkbaca · « **Reply #71 on:** June 28, 2011, 06:27:28 pm »

I am hoping they do a gone with the wind pin next

pinballjim · « **Reply #72 on:** June 28, 2011, 08:13:23 pm »

It's fun to bash themes, but I don't really have any great ideas either. Stern's theory for awhile was going with 'sure things that have been around awhile' and it worked with LOTR and Simpsons. I don't think games like 24 or CSI set the world on fire.

What I find interesting are the earnings reports that say 20 year old pins earn just as much as the new stuff. I think your average person in the arcade couldn't care less about the theme. Home buyers are another matter...

I suppose one nice thing about Wizard of Oz is that it can't get any older... it's permeated our popular culture and will be around the rest of our lives...

RayB · « **Reply #73 on:** June 28, 2011, 10:57:11 pm »

My neighbour had his brother visiting from england. The guy's about 27. He had never even SEEN a pinball machine. He ended up playing my Road Kings a good 20 to 30 times, and he kept talking about wanting to buy one.

I don't have a conclusion to this post. Maybe its *something*something* about pins needing to be out there more and younger players would play them?

Donkbaca · « **Reply #74 on:** June 29, 2011, 12:07:15 am »

I will play just about any machine I come across, even if the theme is lame and one one of the floored is broken

pinballjim · « **Reply #75 on:** June 29, 2011, 09:25:59 am »

Quote from: Donkbaca on June 29, 2011, 12:07:15 am

I will play just about any machine I come across, even if the theme is lame and one one of the floored is broken

Donkbaca · « **Reply #76 on:** June 29, 2011, 09:32:37 am »

You don't see them that often out and about. Yeah I won't dump tons of credits in a broken one, but I will play just about any one I cone across

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #77 on:** June 29, 2011, 12:56:51 pm »

I think he was questioning WTF this means:

"...even if the theme is lame and one one of the floored is broken"

...and I'm right there with him. Huh?

lilshawn · « **Reply #78 on:** June 29, 2011, 01:27:33 pm »

Quote from: FrizzleFried on June 29, 2011, 12:56:51 pm

I think he was questioning WTF this means:

"...even if the theme is lame and one one of the floored is broken"

...and I'm right there with him. Huh?

.... kay ...

pinballjim · « **Reply #79 on:** June 29, 2011, 02:12:37 pm »

Well, can't speak for the one one of the floors, but there's several games I won't play....

Scared Stiff, NASCAR, Junkyard, Twilight Zone, World Poker Tour, Williams Indiana Jones. Can't stand any of those and the local ice skating rink, of course, has two of them side by side. All of them have been passed by in recent history. Cirqus Voltaire is about to join that list. Every single one of them I've played has been exceptionally nice and I suspect there's a reason.

Funhouse is another one I won't touch anymore. Enjoyed it a lot, but played it into the ground and I'm sick of it.


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