HyperSpin v2 is coming...

[Havok]

Engage maximum BUMPS!

[Dazz]

It's coming and it will be here when it's ready.  We have put a lot of focus in making sure that our ROM databases, box art, wheel art, themes and new mp4 videos from EmuMovies are all in line.  Tons of new artwork has been completed.  Our FTP site has been re-built, websites have been moved to faster servers with more drive capacity.  There is a TON of work that has to go on in the backend before we can hope for a smooth release. 

It will be worth the wait.

[chillinwater]

It's coming and it will be here when it's ready.  We have put a lot of focus in making sure that our ROM databases, box art, wheel art, themes and new mp4 videos from EmuMovies are all in line.  Tons of new artwork has been completed.  Our FTP site has been re-built, websites have been moved to faster servers with more drive capacity.  There is a TON of work that has to go on in the backend before we can hope for a smooth release. 

It will be worth the wait.

Engage maximum BUMPS!

[(+_+)]

Was that a Freudian slip Dazz based on the pic. 

 "There is a TON of work that has to go on in the backend before we can hope for a smooth release."

[404]

It's coming and it will be here when it's ready.  We have put a lot of focus in making sure that our ROM databases, box art, wheel art, themes and new mp4 videos from EmuMovies are all in line.  Tons of new artwork has been completed.  Our FTP site has been re-built, websites have been moved to faster servers with more drive capacity.  There is a TON of work that has to go on in the backend before we can hope for a smooth release. 

It will be worth the wait.

hopefully the controller bugs that have so far prevented me from using hyperspin on x64 systems have been fixed. 

[hellothere123]

It's coming and it will be here when it's ready.  We have put a lot of focus in making sure that our ROM databases, box art, wheel art, themes and new mp4 videos from EmuMovies are all in line.  Tons of new artwork has been completed.  Our FTP site has been re-built, websites have been moved to faster servers with more drive capacity.  There is a TON of work that has to go on in the backend before we can hope for a smooth release. 

It will be worth the wait.

We are from Hyperspin...we are the best...you know it...I know it ...and ESPECIALLY I know it ...(right I just said that).

Anyway, oh yah, Hyperspin...its coming soon - don't ask when- because you are not worth to ask such questions to me - Hyperspin...yes, I get my self worth from Hyperspin...sometimes write it on my hand to make me feel like a man


Hey Hyperspin is nice, but how about sending some news of when I can download it off a torrent for free...other than that...kiss it!

[lordnacho]

Wow, you sound as whiny as Luke. 
-"This R2 Unit has a bad motivator"
-"But I was going into Tosche Station to pick up some power converters"
-"I can't get Hyperspin to work so I'm mad at you, wahhhh"

[Havok]

I personally would rather see a polished full release than something half assed. As long as they are working on it, that's good enough for me. I'll be building a new Mame cab fairly soon and I think I've give HS a "spin" at that time.

If you're having issues, try out AtomicFE - we have a release with basically everything preconfigured. Just drop the files in the correct directories and you're done...

[yotsuya]

Havok-

Has there been any tweaking done to Atomic recently? If it supported PNG transparency, that would be awesome.

[Havok]

Nothing recently. Just more tutorials\documentation and themes. You might want to drop Youki a line as he very often does tweaks at user requests.

[Dazz]

It's coming and it will be here when it's ready.  We have put a lot of focus in making sure that our ROM databases, box art, wheel art, themes and new mp4 videos from EmuMovies are all in line.  Tons of new artwork has been completed.  Our FTP site has been re-built, websites have been moved to faster servers with more drive capacity.  There is a TON of work that has to go on in the backend before we can hope for a smooth release. 

It will be worth the wait.

We are from Hyperspin...we are the best...you know it...I know it ...and ESPECIALLY I know it ...(right I just said that).

Anyway, oh yah, Hyperspin...its coming soon - don't ask when- because you are not worth to ask such questions to me - Hyperspin...yes, I get my self worth from Hyperspin...sometimes write it on my hand to make me feel like a man


Hey Hyperspin is nice, but how about sending some news of when I can download it off a torrent for free...other than that...kiss it!

  It's free for download on our site.

[Neostalker]

Think he was talking about a full download of a complete setup of all emulators, artwork, videos, and configuration. minus roms of course. But that would be very awesome and I would pay a pretty penny to have a Hyperspin 2.0 setup completely configured out of the box with all art and movies. Well, keep up the good work anyway and we hope for a v2.0 release soon 

[Savannan]

I agree to a point.

Yes it would be AWESOME to have HS pre-configured with emulators (minus the roms of course)...I know for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to get MESS working..but thats another story..so having everything pre-configured would be the cats meow!

but to be packaged with videos, that would be taking $$ for emumovies.

[Neostalker]

They could come together and split the profits. I think in the end they would get more money considering a lot of people on here don't want to spend all the time piece-mealing the software together.

 I'm a computer tech myself and don't even want to but at least I can. I'm sure there are people out there that would love to have a fancy Front End like Hyperspin but are intimidated by the task of downloading tons of different files and then configuring it.

[bigster]

I have been using Maximus for 3 years and I was planning on switching to Hyperspin based on all the raving I hear about it.  I am at a crossroads though, all the artwork and mp4 videos i downloaded from emumovies are not capable with version 1.2.  Hyperspin 2.0 is almost elusive as UMK3 wavenet.  In fact, a new version of nesticle may come out before Hyperspin 2.0 comes out. 

My question is, should I change now and just rename the mp4s to flash video (i head it kind of works) and then rename everything when 2.0 comes out.  Or, should I just wait for the "coming soon" 2.0 to make the switch.  I do not want to set up a front end several different times.

[Trnzaddict]

I have about 50 systems set up on my console HS, trust me distributing this preconfigured is a bad idea, theres alot to be learned and if something stops working the user is screwed.

Oh, and HS 2.0 isn't too far off, Bad Boy Bill already has someone making video tutorials for all the features of HS 2.0 so to be at that point, a release isn't far off.

[Lilwolf]

Hopefully...

but other teams should take note.  When your not full time in a project, making smaller, incremental upgrades REALLY helps.  Huge upgrades like this can make an upgrade take years.

I have webmame working with hyperspin v2 categories for like a year and 1/2 now.  Of course, untested

If they had added parts, every 4-6 months they could have added parts....  Total development time might have gone up some, but people could have used/tested parts for ages.

[GregD]

I have a pre-configured Hyperspin drive and it has been great.  I would never have had the time to do all the work to get it looking pretty by myself.  For the most part I have figured everything out (except my issue with Daphne but I am just starting to research that and I will eventually get it).  I am all for them distributing the complete package although something tells me you will still have to go to emumovies to get the video files.

[hellothere123]

Hyperspin version 2.0                                    

then finally   

[ChrisK]

Every time this thread gets bumped I get excited, only to be disappointed.  I'm really interested in trying out Hyperspin 2.0, but it's been quite a long wait. 

[wweumina]

Hyperspin version 2.0                                    

then finally   

This combined with your earlier post makes you come across as an ungrateful 12 year old. Not sure if that is your intention.

[evh347]

Shoot, without Hyperspin my Mame cabinet would be permanently off and in storage.  Hyperspin completely reinvigorated my classic arcade spirit.  I have more emulators, games, artwork, movies, etc... than I ever thought I would all in one place. 

Now I'm installing Electric Ice buttons and LED Blinky...this thing just keeps getting better.

It was a real pain in the ass to setup (including figuring out how to get MESS working from HS).  Still don't have Daphne working properly, but that's probably because I'm still trying to use an older version of Daphne and I'm not a script genius like some of those HS Admins are.

Count me in as one who is waiting for HS 2.0.  I check almost everyday.   

Last project for the summer, install Active Marquee...just need HS 2.0 to be released!

[yotsuya]

The one thing I am looking forward to the most in HS 2.0 is the ability to have a sound play when I select a game (although I think it can be done with scriping in 1.0, I just don't know how).

[yaksplat]

Is there a list of potential new features anywhere?

[ChrisK]

On the Hyperspin forums..........which are down right now. 

[beast8812]

I have a pre-configured Hyperspin drive and it has been great.  I would never have had the time to do all the work to get it looking pretty by myself.  For the most part I have figured everything out (except my issue with Daphne but I am just starting to research that and I will eventually get it).  I am all for them distributing the complete package although something tells me you will still have to go to emumovies to get the video files.

Can you PM me some info on the pre-configured hyperspin drive.  This is exactly what i've been looking for. 

[Dazz]

I have a pre-configured Hyperspin drive and it has been great.  I would never have had the time to do all the work to get it looking pretty by myself.  For the most part I have figured everything out (except my issue with Daphne but I am just starting to research that and I will eventually get it).  I am all for them distributing the complete package although something tells me you will still have to go to emumovies to get the video files.

Can you PM me some info on the pre-configured hyperspin drive.  This is exactly what i've been looking for. 

Bad, bad, bad... don't even think about asking us for support when you can't make any changes to the file system.... or you get the trojan/virus from the torrents that are flying around. These drive sellers and torrents is what's making us include callback's or unique keys for HS 2.0.

Download the files from a official source, support the project and learn to setup things yourself... You'll get much more enjoyment out of it.  That's not only for HyperSpin, but it goes for pretty much everything in this hobby.

[yaksplat]

Download the files from a official source, support the project and learn to setup things yourself... You'll get much more enjoyment out of it.  That's not only for HyperSpin, but it goes for pretty much everything in this hobby.

+1

[Mysterioii]

Hmm I hadn't really thought if it that way....  I also got a preconfigured drive a few years ago, and that's really how I found out about Hyperspin.  I was at the time using Advancemenu for MAME and mamewah for all my consoles.  I liked what I saw in Hyperspin, but didn't like the way he had a few things set up and also wanted to add some systems, so I had to learn how to get it to the state I wanted it in.  So now I'm a paid full menu on Hyperspin and a paid lifetime member at emumovies.

I'm not arguing anything, I completely see your point of view now that it's been pointed out, but for me it's really what got my foot in the door with Hyperspin.  Maybe I would have discovered it on my own eventually but I'm glad I found out about it when I did.

[beast8812]

Bad, bad, bad... don't even think about asking us for support when you can't make any changes to the file system.... or you get the trojan/virus from the torrents that are flying around. These drive sellers and torrents is what's making us include callback's or unique keys for HS 2.0.

Download the files from a official source, support the project and learn to setup things yourself... You'll get much more enjoyment out of it.  That's not only for HyperSpin, but it goes for pretty much everything in this hobby.
[/quote]

Thanks for the advice.  I will have to try setting it up some more myself.  I've got hyperspin downloaded and some other things downloaded.  I know this is a touchy subject but if i'm not using a torrent to get a rom, how should I get them.  I know for hyperspin and emu movies are official sources and I know where to get some of the emulators from there official sources, but I don't really see anyone posting official places to get roms.  I did come across a place with a hyperspin project.  Would you recommend them?  Its hard to know where to get stuff from if no ones allowed to talk about it.  Thats why I was just looking for a preconfigured setup because half the crap I download and try to get working never works.  I'm all for trying it myself and I have had some success.  Any help pointing me in the right direction will be appreciated.  I see hyperspins website is back up so that should be a lot of help.

[GregD]

I have a pre-configured Hyperspin drive and it has been great.  I would never have had the time to do all the work to get it looking pretty by myself.  For the most part I have figured everything out (except my issue with Daphne but I am just starting to research that and I will eventually get it).  I am all for them distributing the complete package although something tells me you will still have to go to emumovies to get the video files.

Can you PM me some info on the pre-configured hyperspin drive.  This is exactly what i've been looking for.  

Bad, bad, bad... don't even think about asking us for support when you can't make any changes to the file system.... or you get the trojan/virus from the torrents that are flying around. These drive sellers and torrents is what's making us include callback's or unique keys for HS 2.0.

Download the files from a official source, support the project and learn to setup things yourself... You'll get much more enjoyment out of it.  That's not only for HyperSpin, but it goes for pretty much everything in this hobby.

Sure.  Some guy at work gave me his hyperspin drive that he created because he wasn't playing the games anymore and I was just supposed to say no thanks.  I am going to spend hours upon hours doing it myself when it was handed to me?  Did I say I purchased the drive or downloaded via torrent?  

[Neostalker]

I think this hobby is awesome and everything that goes into. Some people just don't have the grey matter to spend on configuring software when they've already spent countless hours researching everything else into this hobby. I actually think it would be way more beneficial having everything preconfigured, that way when it does break it is much easier to troubleshoot. It might take a while but it won't take anywhere near as long as building something up from scratch.

Then again, I am a fan of the barter system so I would much rather trade my technological expertise to someone who is good at carpentry instead of me wasting time and money trying to work with carpentry when I haven't spent more than 5 minutes of my life working with wood. I just think it would be better if more people were willing to actually help instead of guide.

[Mysterioii]

Well, I presume the arguments against preconfigured drives are twofold:  First, people selling preconfigured drives are essentially selling roms and are selling Hyperspin (and whatever other programs and utilities they choose to include) without compensation to the creators, and I can clearly see that as bad.  Now, the unnamed person I got my preconfigured drive from started out as an old-school rom burner, and that was a great service back when download speeds were lame and torrents didn't exist.  For essentially the cost of the blank media and shipping they'd send you the disks... and I know there is some precarious double-speak there, it's exactly the same as when you find a video collector sharing old TV shows lifted from old tapes and stuff.  "You're not paying for the copyrighted material, just the media, shipping and a small stipend for my time".  I know from the cost of the media at the time that there had to be very little profit margin involved.  After rom sets got to be too huge, he started doing the drives.  Again, based on the known cost of hard drives at the time I know he wasn't profiting much at all.  I really think the guy just loves the hobby, and that's why he started including Hyperspin on the drives.  He liked setting it up, wants to help people out.  If these were base $100 hard drives and he was selling them for $250, yeah that's bad.  But when it's a base $100 hard drive and he wants $115 shipped for it, and I know the work that went into the thing, I don't see that as evil (no more than any other aspect of this hobby).

The second issue of course is that if everything is preconfigured then some people  will NEVER do anything more on their own, so that cuts down on new subscribers to Hyperspin and Emumovies.  Well I'm completely with you there.  I definitely believe in giving back to the community, that's why I'm paid members on both now.  Will likely donate additionally in the future, and in the past I donated to the MAME dev's dumping project (dunno if that's still going on...  if so somebody shoot me a link, it's about time for another contribution).  But if I hadn't come across that preconfigured drive (that was a little bit lacking) I probably would't have discovered Hyperspin and Emumovies, and would still be using advancemenu and mamewah.

Honestly there's a lot of shades of grey in this hobby.  I'm personally not selling roms or drives and have no desire to.  If one of my bros wanted help setting up a system, I'd definitely help them out.  And in doing so I'd introduce them to the proper resources and encourage them to give back to the community too.

[Neostalker]

+1  I Exactly understand what you are saying. People need to relax and just have fun with this hobby without screwing people over. I love the idea of contributing or helping the community back out. I just think things would be easier if some of these things you could just buy out right. Most of us are do-it-yourselfers, the other half are both do-it-yourselfers/buyers. I would definitely prefer spending $100 or $200 for a pre-configured drive (talking about a pre-configured hyperspin with all emumovies added and such. No Roms, don't care about those as it's easy enough to add the roms to a rom folder and click audit.) than paying hyperspin $25 for access to their FTP and Emumovies $25 for their FTP. It would just save me time and make things easier.

As I said before there are plenty of other more difficult things you have to deal with in the hobby, why add more to it?

[BadMouth]

As I said before there are plenty of other more difficult things you have to deal with in the hobby, why add more to it?

Because it's awesome having something that can't be bought.  

I consider learning how to set up and maintain your system= earning it.
If you aren't willing to, you haven't earned it and shouldn't have it.

[Neostalker]

Some people have busy lives. Some people work over 50 hours a week or more and have family that they have to take care of. Why not have something you can buy? When someone has the means to purchase an item or service why hold them back from it? Is money not earned? Maybe they are fully aware that if the product breaks that they won't get support from it but are still willing to pay.

Tell me what is wrong with that?

[yotsuya]

Not to put gas on the fire, but you're not buying a pre-configured drive from Hyperspin/Emumovies (who developed the content). If they wanted to sell you a preconfigured drive with their content, that's one thing. But if you buy a preconfigured drive from someone, then Hyperspin/Emumovies isn't compensated for their work (especially Emumovies). That's how I see it.

[BadMouth]

Some people have busy lives. Some people work over 50 hours a week or more and have family that they have to take care of. Why not have something you can buy? When someone has the means to purchase an item or service why hold them back from it? Is money not earned? Maybe they are fully aware that if the product breaks that they won't get support from it but are still willing to pay.

Tell me what is wrong with that?

The problem is that when something doesn't work, they come here and don't know enough about their setup to even know what questions to ask.
When someone doesn't understand that they have a "front-end" and MAME is a separate program from that, or that they press TAB to map the controls,
you have to wonder where they got everything from.

It's the same as giving someone a version of MAME compiled with the no-nag diff and then the end-user who doesn't understand it complains that there are games that don't work (when there should be a big red box telling them "this game doesn't work")

Just my opinion.  I'm not in charge of anything.
I like having stuff normal people would never bother putting the work into. 
(and I'm coming off three months of 60-70hr weeks)

[Mysterioii]

Not to put gas on the fire, but you're not buying a pre-configured drive from Hyperspin/Emumovies (who developed the content). If they wanted to sell you a preconfigured drive with their content, that's one thing. But if you buy a preconfigured drive from someone, then Hyperspin/Emumovies isn't compensated for their work (especially Emumovies). That's how I see it.

Yep I agree, and pointed that out in my post.  However in my particular case (and I know others may be much different), I wouldn't have even discovered Hyperspin and Emumovies (at least at that time) if it weren't for that preconfigured drive that piqued my interest.  And now I'm a paid lifetime member at both.  So they got my money BECAUSE of that drive.    

But again, everyone's different.  As I said there are a lot of people I'm sure that would just take the drive and never give anything back to Hyperspin/Emumovies.  Now, maybe those to sites COULD get together and offer a preconfigured "total package" minus the roms...  But at that point I'd agree, just do it yourself.  Not everyone wants to use the same emulators, not everyone wants the same systems, not everyone has the same hardware....  I definitely don't mind configuring it myself.  When I got the drive it was really just to get a ton of data all at once in a form factor that basically provided me an instant backup (I copied what I wanted onto the drives already in my cabinet and kept this drive in another room for safekeeping).  It just happened to already have Hyperspin on it, and I gave it a look, and it got me into it.

Really I don't think it's hard to configure.  You just download a lot of stuff and put it in the right places.  The biggest issue for me is that I had some old rom sets that didn't use the same naming convention so the themes, wheel art, other artwork etc. didn't match the names of my roms.  Renamed a bunch of crap by hand then found some renaming utilities that are better than nothing.  Having some issues now with some Japanese Saturn images wherein the zip file is of the proper name but the bin/cues inside don't follow the same naming convention.  Dunno if it'll work that way or if the bin/cues have to match the zip...

[yotsuya]

Not to put gas on the fire, but you're not buying a pre-configured drive from Hyperspin/Emumovies (who developed the content). If they wanted to sell you a preconfigured drive with their content, that's one thing. But if you buy a preconfigured drive from someone, then Hyperspin/Emumovies isn't compensated for their work (especially Emumovies). That's how I see it.

Yep I agree, and pointed that out in my post.  However in my particular case (and I know others may be much different), I wouldn't have even discovered Hyperspin and Emumovies (at least at that time) if it weren't for that preconfigured drive that piqued my interest.  And now I'm a paid lifetime member at both.  So they got my money BECAUSE of that drive.    

  to you, my friend. However, I bet you're probably the exception, not the rule. That's where the issue would lie.