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I've been planning everything for a while now. I've ordered every single part for a Midway cocktail cabinet using the Arcade Depot kit and parts from various sources. The only thing I'm short on is speaker grills. I just need all the parts to get here already. I've still got alot of stuff in the mail. I plan on building it in one day from start to finish, though.

I'm using 100% all new parts - inside and out. It's going to be a classic cocktail machine, but I didn't want to use old, unreliable parts. Instead, I built a PC piece by piece using new low-spec parts. It'll be powerful enough for what it needs to do, though. I'll list the PC specs when I have something more to show.

I'll also be writing up a review for RetroBlast for the Arcade Depot "real wood cocktail kit". So keep your eyes peeled for more to come!

*EDIT*
As of 08/20/2005, this project is complete.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2005, 10:29:33 pm by AlanS17 »


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2005, 04:31:45 am »
Sounds like a logistic nightmare. Good luck though!

I look forward to the review.

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2005, 09:05:48 am »
Whoops, my bad. I'm apparently NOT using all new parts. The coin door is used. (No biggie.)


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2005, 12:18:41 pm »
Are the kits put out by arcade depot ok? I'm having a relatively hard time trying to find a used midway-style cocktail in my price range and I was thinking of going with them as an alternative. I'm looking forward to your review but if anybody has any feedback right now I'd love to hear it

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2005, 01:25:59 pm »
I assume you will be staining/painting the wood before this "one-day"?  Or are you really a glutton for punishment. :)

I am very interested in reading your review of their product.  Maybe someday I'll add a cocktail to the (yet non-existant) collection.

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2005, 02:15:43 pm »
The kits have an option to come pre-stained and sealed. I'm going that route. Otherwise, there's no good way to makie that stuff dry in a day. Anybody got a time machine?  :)

My machine is scheduled to ship on monday. I'll keep everybody posted.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2005, 06:06:08 pm »
I'm pretty satisfied with my arcade depot kit but it's not perfect (I'm anal).  There are some definite wavy cuts in the top piece around both the inside and outside edges - hopefully the inside imperfections will be covered by the bezel and the outside ones will be less noticable when the top is painted black and the t-molding and artwork are applied.  It does look like someone free-handed with the jigsaw rather than use a router and pattern trimming bit off of a template which is how I would do it.  With that said, I am extremely please with the ease of assembly and the kit in general.  Everyuthing has lined up great so far.  I will probably be building a second cab for my parents by the end of the year and I won't hesitate to order another kit from Arcade Depot.

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2005, 12:07:11 am »
Status update:
« Last Edit: August 03, 2005, 10:35:43 pm by AlanS17 »


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2005, 08:22:22 pm »
Sounds cool.
Where did you get your motherboard  from?

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2005, 09:59:20 pm »
Sounds cool.
Where did you get your motherboard


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2005, 10:41:11 am »
new egg is an excellent place for your online computer shopping needs (i've built two rigs in the last 2 years using them). I've never had any issues with their products and they ship out lightning fast. The last computer I built in February took a total of 3 days to get to my house, and this was with the cheapest shipping option (I bought basically everything for it too, new case, mb/cpu, ram, video card, lcd monitor, etc...)

back OT;
did you get your kit in yet alans17?

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2005, 12:51:11 pm »
back OT;
did you get your kit in yet alans17?
No, I was told last week that it would ship out yesterday, but I never got a shipping confirmation for it. I don't know if that means they sent it without a shipping confirmation or they haven't shipped it yet.

I'm anxious to get it, but at the same time I want to let it slide and see how they handle the situation since I'm doing a product review. As long as I get it by Friday so I can build it this weekend, I really don't care what happens.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2005, 10:33:06 pm »
Well the cabinet still isn't here yet, but I had the itch to build. Just as luck would have it, a new Ikea store just opened up in the DFW metroplex today. Fighting traffic was annoying, but I bought 2 new wooden stools to use with my cabinet.

They're chair height and they were only $10 so I can't complain. Plus I got to put them together myself so I got my fix for the night. They're sturdy enough for what i'll be using them for. They're un finished wood so I'll probably do something creative with the seat when I un-lazy-fy myself.

I have to admit that they weren't very well made - even sold in pieces. The pieces didn't fit together very well, and I had to bust out a hammer to make some parts fit together at all. It's my first actual experience with Ikea furniture even though I've always had the impression that it was pretty cheap. I guess my impression was right. Still, at $10 each I guess you get what you pay for.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2005, 12:19:58 am »
Here's the "test panel" I built the other night. It will be mounted just inside the coin door on the right. I did a little more work on it tonight. I don't consider it really part of working on the machine because it only took about 5 or 10 minutes and it's sort of its own little thing. (At least that's my justification for keeping this a 1-day project.)

I call it a test panel, but it's really a power panel:
Red - power switch
Black - reset
round toggle - control panel lights on/off

Yes, I know I don't have a power switch on the outside. Yes, I know that's odd. I have my reasons, though. I didn't want to put a countersunk hole into my shiny new cabinet to hook up a pushbutton. I wanted to have my power button near my lights button, and I didn't want the lights button on the outside of the machine. That would have been wierd.

Also, rather than using a regular coin door lock, I'm using a "keyless lock". It's basically a latch that you can turn rather than using a key. It fits the standard lock's hole. That way my coin door stays closed and I don't have to fumble for a key. It looks very professional like it belongs there, too. It also makes it super simple to power up the machine since the power button is right inside the door.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2005, 10:49:46 am »
Do you have a pic of the keyless lock? I've been looking for something like that for awhile, currently my four player cab has a credit button wired just inside the coin door and i wanted something better than leaving the key in the lock the whole time. If you could tell me where you got it, that'd be cool too  ;D

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2005, 11:30:23 am »
Do you have a pic of the keyless lock? I've been looking for something like that for awhile, currently my four player cab has a credit button wired just inside the coin door and i wanted something better than leaving the key in the lock the whole time. If you could tell me where you got it, that'd be cool too


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2005, 01:21:41 am »
Well the kit never got here on Friday. I'm not getting it until Monday now.  :P

On the up side, the PC going in it is 100% ready-to-go now.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2005, 09:06:03 am »
I am curious what the shipping from the UK was on the Arcade Depot kit was....or do they have a US store?

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2005, 12:16:28 pm »
They are primarily based in the US, but they do have a UK branch.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2005, 06:59:05 pm »
It's alive!!!

Well... at least the test setup is. It's a fully functional arcade machine without the cabinet and controls. Everything else should be arriving tomorrow, though.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2005, 10:06:26 pm »
There's no way you can see that whole screen if you are hovering over a cocktail table!  :)

It should be a killer cocktail.  Can't wait for you get get started/finished

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2005, 05:33:46 pm »
Well the machine is scheduled to show up today. The only problem is... it's raining cats and dogs out there!!!

I'm stuck at work for another 1.5hrs and meanwhile I can totally see that thing sitting on the front step soaking up water. Thank goodness it's real wood. Still, I'd rather not have that happen. I have an overlay that could get damaged, and I have metal control panels.

 :'( :'( :'(


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2005, 08:25:46 am »
Was it wet?

Two days with no news?  Thats not like you. :)

Maybe its all put together and you can't get away from it.

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2005, 12:27:28 pm »
Well I got lucky. The delivery was late so I got home just seconds before the UPS guy showed up. I hadn't even gotten into the house before he pulled up. So UPS's crappy delivery worked out better for a change.

I've started putting the thing together, but I've been having some back problems the past couple of days that have put me in slow motion. I didn't want to wait for the weekend, either. So I didn't do it in one day like I had originally planned. I'm making slow, steady progress on it. The cabinet, itself was done very quickly. It's all the  parts installation that is going to take some time. Tonight my goal is to get the monitor and coin door in.

I'll get some pictures up as soon as I can. I usually just post pictures from my camera phone, but I'm doing these properly for the RetroBlast review so I'm actually using my digital camera for a change. This means I'll have to reduce the file size, though. They would be too big to post here as they are. Anyways, I'll get them up ASAP.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2005, 07:19:48 pm »
The darn things are tougher than they look arent they!

I am pretty woodworkingly challenged and it has been a battle for me between no money, no time, and no ability.   ???

Anyway, anxious to see pics here.

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2005, 12:22:46 am »
Well the cabinet, itself, is done. It does have its flaws as a kit, but it's better than I could do myself. It'll all come out in the review, thtough.

Anyways, the monitor is now attached. I'm going to reinforce it, though. I'll do that tomorrow.

Pretty much all I have left is the electronics. Everything is configured. It just needs to be installed.

I'm tired, though. I'll add more later.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2005, 11:57:27 pm »
Well I bummed around most of the day because I haven't felt well. I didn't make it out to the Super Auction, either. So I got some work done on the machine, but not all that much.

I installed the speakers, wired the player 1 control panel, and installed the coin door. I also finished bracing the monitor. So even though it's not functional yet, it looks like it's complete from the outside. I'll post a picture soon.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project (start to finish in one day)
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2005, 03:43:13 pm »
My WIP. (Yup, that's the living room - one of the benefits of being single.)


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project *NEW PIC 08/14/05*
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2005, 11:36:12 pm »
Here's a picture of the control panels wired up. It's just like every other picture of a control panel wired up.  :)

I need to finish wiring up the CP's and coin door and then I'm done. I'm not going to get to that tonight, though.

I have all the internal parts in place, though. I've got to say it is PACKED in there. I've managed to squeeze a decent set of PC speakers with the sub inside the machine. My cocktail has boom (not that I'll ever need it). We'll see if it does anything nasty to the video or if it wipes the CF card.

I'll try to get a picture of everything packed in there. It's hard to appreciate how tight the fit is while it's open. All the open space gets filled up by the monitor when it's closed.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project *NEW PIC 08/14/05*
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2005, 12:02:42 pm »
interested to know:
1) what OS are you using / what frontend
2) what type of joysticks

I'd love to see larger more detailed images.  thanks!
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« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2005, 12:05:07 pm »
What type of monitor are you using?

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project *NEW PIC 08/14/05*
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2005, 05:34:49 pm »
interested to know:
1) what OS are you using / what frontend
2) what type of joysticks

I'd love to see larger more detailed images.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project *NEW PIC 08/14/05*
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2005, 05:37:29 pm »
What type of monitor are you using?
I'm using a Neotec, but I forgot the model number. I can get it later if it's important to you. It's actually a VGA monitor. I won an auction on ebay for a " 19" arcade monitor ". It wasn't until I received it that I realized it wasn't standard resolution. I guess I sort of lucked out. I won the thing for cheap since the description wasn't very good. It wasn't what I was looking for, but I'm glad I got it.


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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project *NEW PIC 08/14/05*
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2005, 06:26:15 pm »
How much has this project cost you so far?

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project *NEW PIC 08/14/05*
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2005, 06:35:17 pm »
What type of monitor are you using?
I'm using a Neotec, but I forgot the model number. I can get it later if it's important to you. It's actually a VGA monitor. I won an auction on ebay for a " 19" arcade monitor ". It wasn't until I received it that I realized it wasn't standard resolution. I guess I sort of lucked out. I won the thing for cheap since the description wasn't very good. It wasn't what I was looking for, but I'm glad I got it.

Thanks.  I'm going to order the Happs Vision Pro II right now for my Midway inspired cocktail cab and yours looked similar...

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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project *NEW PIC 08/14/05*
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2005, 06:43:53 pm »
How much has this project cost you so far?
Are we talking in terms of actual dollars out of my pocket or in terms of estimated value of parts involved? I got a lot of parts for my b-day, and I had a couple things already like the coin door and monitor.

I will admit I'm going with all the bells and whistles, though. I'm using all new parts where available and I'm being very meticulous (like using heat shrink tubing on the wiring). Both of those mean lots of money.
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Re: Yet another Midway cocktail project *NEW PIC 08/14/05*
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2005, 09:44:57 pm »
How much has this project cost you so far?
Are we talking in terms of actual dollars out of my pocket or in terms of estimated value of parts involved? I got a lot of parts for my b-day, and I had a couple things already like the coin door and monitor.

I will admit I'm going with all the bells and whistles, though. I'm using all new parts where available and I'm being very meticulous (like using heat shrink tubing on the wiring). Both of those mean lots of money.

Estimated value of parts, please  ;D... I'm thinking of starting a cocktail project (lol, of course I should really finish my upright first) and I just wanted to compare some of the prices I think I'm going to be paying with someone else who's in the process or has already completed their own cocktail.

Also, is it necessary to use a vga monitor? what's wrong with trying to use a cga monitor? I only ask because most of the projects I've seen so far use the U3100 or some other arcade vga (like your neo tec or the happs vision pro), or they end up using a pc montior.

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« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2005, 11:41:38 pm »
I'm hovering around $1,200 right now but I bought everything new including some tools...  I think the final cost might top $1,400 if I'm not careful... but worth every penny... ;D

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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2005, 12:09:53 am »
I haven't spent quite that much, But I'm hovering around $1000. The cost would be higher if I was listing full retail price for the monitor and coin door. Those are the only 2 parts I'm using that aren't brand new.

No, there's no reason why a CGA monitor can't be used. Lots of people just use VGA because they're pretty easy to come by in 19".


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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2005, 12:48:58 am »
Well I'm off to bed. I made alot of wiring progress tonight, though. The power, speakers, and monitors are wired. The wiring in the control panels is bunched into molex connectors. I also secured the PC power supply, motherboard, power strip, and bass speaker (all using velcro).

I just need to run power leads to the mother board and wire the molex connectors into the IPAC and then I'm done!

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"You can do just about anything with a staple gun, zip ties, and a square foot of industrial strength velcro."
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