Did you try searing for P90X?
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=84039.0
I can't seem to turn up a search on who had mentioned it, though... maybe it was Dartful?
I'm just doing the bike and treadmill right now.
I see from reviewing the thread that Dartful didn't follow the program through. I'm reading through the materials now... anyone interested in doing it in parallel if we decide to do it?
I stored all of my freeweight stuff so I'm looking for something I can do indoors, without leaving the house, that is new to me.
Well you live in the Northeast, so I suggest you go watch Rocky IV for ideas. ;D
I went from 0 to 3 almost instantly
I don't really care about before and after photos. Probably won't bother with that.
I don't have a bald black dude to sit on the wagon and yell at me.
Is Dartful black? I have a webcam and a speakerphone.
Sounds like something the janitor at an elementary school would say to a student.
I ran a triathlon not long ago.
I dunno, I live next to a couple of people who actually DO triathlons, and those guys train every single day for them. As I recall, chad was out of shape and had a bad knee or back or pancreas or something, so honestly, I was all, WTF?? when I read that.
Well...maybe if a sprint means "run one block, hop on a bigwheel for half a block, then jump in the neighbour's pool, then maybe I can see it.
I ran a triathlon not long ago.WTF
I played Decathlon on the 2600, is that close?
Yeah, but that one came away totally broken. I got my shots in.
This one was something like 600m, 13.5mile all hills, but they cut the run down to 2 miles because of some unforeseen road issue.
Who won the pool for when Chad would mention "the run was all uphill" :dizzy:
Who won the pool for when Chad would mention "the run was all uphill" :dizzy:
I won the pool for chad living in a town where they have have a 14 mile stretch of road where 12 miles of it has potholes so bad you can drive on them but not run on them.
pay up missioncontrol!
So, if the dude can run 14 miles uphill...
why did he need to rent a truck to carry a board 2 miles?
It was multiple months, thank you very much. Triathlon (http://www.coolrunning.com/results/08/ma/Jul13_Hockom_set1.shtml) was in July, I'm somewhere in the 140s. Tough age group, though, full of top finishers.
Who won the pool for when Chad would mention "the run was all uphill" :dizzy:
Who won the pool for when Chad would mention "the run was all uphill" :dizzy:
If you were funnier you would have said the swim was uphill.
The road issue was actually construction due to a broken sewer line.
You don't know funny. You said the run was uphill. That was funny, and expected.. And I know funny.
It's not the teeeny spare tire making you look weak, it's the 4" mighty pythons you're sporting. Just so you know.
My T-ball coach used to call me chicken-legs... :'(
He was just practicing his MDF loading technique, which he perfected that day. He was stressed out from power lifting and programming call center software.
Don't be ridiculouos; everybody knows you load chipboard and MDF totally differently ;D
As long as you go with the grain it doesn't matter how you load it.
I need a week or two to get the nutrition aspects sorted out and figure out how to mount a pullup bar to the rafters in the basement.
You could probably make a pullup bar stand out of some sheets of 4'x8' MDF.
I said the bike was all hills. Didn't say anything about the run being uphill.Yeah Jack, we all know the running portion of the triathlon was across the Sea of Galilee.
I need a week or two to get the nutrition aspects sorted out and figure out how to mount a pullup bar to the rafters in the basement.
You could probably make a pullup bar stand out of some sheets of 4'x8' MDF.
Can't you just use SCREWS to mount a bar? WTF?
Can't you just use SCREWS to mount a bar? WTF?
Walmart has a door frame pull-up bar that supports up to 400lbs. It is like $20-$30.I saw the infomercial for this one:
The nutrition part is what will take more effort. Getting it right takes a bit of prep beforehand to make sure it doesn't become tedious and likely to fail.
it looks like the p90x one I have, but 80 dollars cheaper.
BTW, I jumped on the scale and I'm closer to 15%. It got me at 15.1% fat the first time and 14.7 the second. About 5 years ago I was 8%! so while I'm not overweight by any stretch of the imagination, that's a pretty big shift.
Breakfast is a feast or famine meal for me. It either has to be tons of meat, carbs, & sugar or nothing at all. Eating big breakfasts or simply bad breakfasts (2 donuts and a milk or McD's), are a major part of my problem. Simply replacing breakfast with a drink has allowed me to maintain my weight, no matter how bad I eat during lunch or dinner.
Dartful, even a cheap bioimpedance meter has an "athlete" setting. That's for people who "perform 5-6 hours a week or more of intense physical activity". In the end it doesn't matter whether you measure on normal or athlete so long as you use the same setting the whole time
It knows the difference between flesh bone, and water.
I bought the pull-up bar a few months ago it was 100 bucks on their website.
I discovered the wonders of fruit smoothies this week.
Did you filter out the pomegranate seeds??
I discovered the wonders of fruit smoothies this week.
You want to make that smoothie really really good? Add greens. Spinach is my favorite, but a good leafy lettuce is good too (just not iceberg, that would be a waste). Go 3/4 fruit and 1/4 spinach. It will look like a crazy amount of spinach to put in, but wait till you taste it. So. Freaking. Good.
I'm dead serious. Try it. You won't go back. And you have the added benefit of getting a really large portion of greens in your diet which, for most Americans, is a pretty big deal.
shardian, I lived out of the blender when I was lifting heavy all the time... strawberry protein shakes out the door. Definitely a lifesaver in that regard but the allure wears off after a while if you're replacing meals with them. It's not the same to sit down to dinner with my family with a glass while they're eating a meal.
Then again, I also used to eat 2 cans of tuna alone after I lifted, which gets old even faster.
With all that spinach you won't need p90x!
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It looks like all the spinach just makes your forearms beefy.
just list the things you HAVENT done chad, itll be shorter :dunno
Supermarket Sweep kicked ASS! I loved that show.
Have you let you kids play Mortal Kombat for the first time yet? >:D
just list the things you HAVENT done chad, itll be shorter :dunno
I propose a new custome title for the Chad:
"jack off all trades, master of bater"
Too many people look up at 55 and wonder why they never tried all those things they wanted to do. They sure as hell remember every episode of 25 different TV shows, though. I'll be damned if I end up that way and I'm making sure I set that example for my sons too.
They sure as hell remember every episode of 25 different TV shows, though. I'll be damned if I end up that way and I'm making sure I set that example for my sons too. When was the last time you did something for the first time?
Ummm how many episodes of WCW/WWE shows can you remember? Probably more than 25.
Fair enough. You're the one who will have to live with the knowledge that somewhere JackTucky is rubbing one out to your pictures.
hide the towels if tucky comes over. It'll make him leave faster :duckhunt
My seal of quality might be the only thing we really have left of tommy other than his wisdom, though. Do we really want to give that up?
Chad, stop posting in this thread already, your big hat can't fit on your big ass any longer. :laugh:
I did consider trying this p90x (seriously all they did was take a gun and add x to it?) but the closest thing I have to a pullup bar is a swing set in my backyard. Do I have to pay for this program or can you just tell me how many pushups and such I need to do? Seriously.
I did consider trying this p90x (seriously all they did was take a gun and add x to it?) but the closest thing I have to a pullup bar is a swing set in my backyard. Do I have to pay for this program or can you just tell me how many pushups and such I need to do? Seriously.
Jim's idea is solid but you have to BRING IT to this concept. Don't post afterwards. Post during. Post after each pushup and tell us how it went.
Better yet, do ONE handed pushups and type with the other.
That's round two. Gotta start somewhere. Round three is where you really see the benefits. You're so ripped and getting so much tail that you can use both hands to type because you don't need them to do pushups anymore.
Wait... So whats he doing the pushups with then?
On second thought, nevermind. Don't say it. It'll attract MrC...
On that note, I'd like to say how much nicer this forum is with P&R nicely tucked out of sight.
On that note, I'd like to say how much nicer this forum is with P&R nicely tucked out of sight.
On that note, I'd like to point out how infantile it is to complain about threads for being political and antagonistic when they have subject lines clearly indicating that the content of the threads will be political and antagonistic. You seem to have the wherewithall to stay out of the PnR forum; I can't for the life of me understand why that doesn't translate to the ability to not click on threads that don't interest you.
At any rate, I think it's especially absurd to still be harping on about it this long (years?) after enough children's crying got the political threads relegated to their own hidden forum.
Who's crying? ::)
Who's crying? ::)
Who's crying? ::)
The children who needed to be protected from themselves because they couldn't resist the temptation to read threads with titles like, "Bush lied about the war," or, "Democrats are at it again!" even though they supposedly hate discussing or reading about politics on internet message boards.
for a second it sounded like you were crying about people who were crying... ;D
Who's crying? ::)
I did consider trying this p90x (seriously all they did was take a gun and add x to it?) but the closest thing I have to a pullup bar is a swing set in my backyard. Do I have to pay for this program or can you just tell me how many pushups and such I need to do? Seriously.
Do some pushups. Tomorrow, do two more than today. Repeat indefinitely.
Who's crying? ::)
Wait, I know this one...
Journey!
No . . . I was insulting. I'm not trying to get PnR topics back into EE or even unhidden. I'm just calling out Shardian for acting like a child to begin with, and then acting like an ---uvula--- now, after he finally got his way.
Someone is bitter... talk about hair temper on the topic. Someone get the boy a mint julip.
On that note, I'd like to point out how infantile it is to complain about threads for being political and antagonistic when they have subject lines clearly indicating that the content of the threads will be political and antagonistic.
Appletini for shmokes, Asstini for JackTucky.
I was in PnR for a longass time and never once saw JackTucky make a worthwhile post in there.
Appletini for shmokes, Asstini for JackTucky.
I was in PnR for a longass time and never once saw JackTucky make a worthwhile post in there.
Hey tucky, don't forget:
Child Psychologist (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74657.msg773784#msg773784)
Audio Technician (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74591.msg773463#msg773463)
Ethical Hacker/Security Specialist (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74705.msg773381#msg773381)
Bargain Hunter Extraordinaire (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74636.msg772934#msg772934)
Classic Car Guru (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74656.msg772872#msg772872)
HVAC Master (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74426.msg772511#msg772511)
Tivo Hacker (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74595.msg772217#msg772217)
USPS Shippng Rate Expert (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74583.msg771980#msg771980)
International Property Lawyer (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74467.msg771551#msg771551)
Gamecube Appraiser (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74323.msg770495#msg770495)
Capacitor Inspector (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74374.msg770438#msg770438)
Casino Bar Stool Professional (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74381.msg770338#msg770338)
Picture Frame Protagonist (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74286.msg770275#msg770275)
Holiday Equality Supporter (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74395.msg770273#msg770273)
NRA Supporter (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74234.msg768407#msg768407)
Part Time Carpenter (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=73854.msg768073#msg768073)
Traffic Cop (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74178.msg767279#msg767279)
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Cable TV Bill Auditor (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=73994.msg765326#msg765326)
HTPC Guru (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=73449.msg763610#msg763610)
Your Chad quoting skills are awesome. Did Cheffo teach you how to do this?
Implying there are worthwhile posts in P&R?
They sure as hell remember every episode of 25 different TV shows, though. I'll be damned if I end up that way and I'm making sure I set that example for my sons too.
Hosted by the dude we used to watch do Supermarket Sweep in the 90s.
In high school my friends and I used to get trashed and watch Joe Bob Briggs on USA followed by Supermarket Sweep on (I think it was Lifetime).
The rest are spending their time taunting some dude they'll never meet. That makes them winners. :laugh2:
Hey chad when do you want to start on this? I was thinking two weeks give or take to sort out nutrition and for some of us to finish our equipment pick up. Whatcha think?
Whats your workout regiment? 3 sets of 6 posts a day, 7 days a week? Your fingers must be HUGE
I did consider trying this p90x (seriously all they did was take a gun and add x to it?) but the closest thing I have to a pullup bar is a swing set in my backyard. Do I have to pay for this program or can you just tell me how many pushups and such I need to do? Seriously.
LOL kind of what I thought! They do have all of the recipes though, and none of them are terribly difficult. At least they advise on several diffierent strucvtures. The cook (above), the semi lazy (Frozen dinners), and the real lazy on the go (fast food choices).
I'm going to save spinach in the drink for later on when I need to tweak it for variety. Sounds worth trying.
Here is what appears to be an insanely useful spreadsheet for p90x.
One more point... the tools over at Team Beachbody (http://www.milliondollarbody.com) seem a lot better suited to the group effort than a thread here... you can set up groups, log your workouts, get a coach, all that stuff and there doesn't appear to be any cost for the basic toolset. I just registered, if others want to, PM me your usernames and we'll set up a group.
That's odd. I didn't enter any type of credit card info to join. It assigned me a coach, let me set up a calendar and prepopulated it.
I would have to subtract a veggie serving from another meal - right now that's mostly carrots and I want those. Soon enough I'll be sick of all those carrots and can make the switch then. I always have a lot of baby carrots around anyway because my turtles eat so many of them.
It breaks things down into servings within categories... I have to eat 4 servings of veggies a day in the first 30 days. There are few vegetables I can eat without gagging, mostly because I hate them, but some just because of texture. As soon as they hit my soft pallet those ones come back up. I can deal with raw carrots but not 4 servings a day of them. I found today I do actually like munching on spinach, though, and that counts. So I see a lot of spinach coming up.
It took several years to train my wife...
There are few vegetables I can eat without gagging, mostly because I hate them, but some just because of texture.
That's odd. I didn't enter any type of credit card info to join. It assigned me a coach, let me set up a calendar and prepopulated it.
When you click your link you have the option to "Connect and Interact" or something, as well as "Join the Club". Joining the club costs money (30-day free trial, then like $3/month), and presumably gives you more benefits. I just signed up for a membership under Connect and Interact and it didn't ask me for a credit card.
Chat live with Tony Horton!
Monday, November 24th, at 7:00 PM CT
I don't want the guy continually yelling motivation at me. If I weren't motivated I wouldn't be doing it to begin with.
Admittedly I look a little stupid jogging in circles in my living room with a wiimote in my pocket but meh.
If I had to guess, I'd say that 45 minutes of it is probably a 400-500 calorie workout.
I'm scheduled to do my first P90X today, but I have a cold so I'm afraid to strain myself for fear of sending myself into coughing fits and making myself worse. Also, my pull-up bar didn't arrive today, as I thought it would. I'm supposed to to chest/back and ab ripper today. Not sure if I even need the bar, but I think I'd better not workout until I'm over my cold.
I'm scheduled to do my first P90X today, but I have a cold so I'm afraid to strain myself for fear of sending myself into coughing fits and making myself worse. Also, my pull-up bar didn't arrive today, as I thought it would. I'm supposed to to chest/back and ab ripper today. Not sure if I even need the bar, but I think I'd better not workout until I'm over my cold.
You need the bar. I'd rearrange the order a bit so the shoulders/arms is day 1 and chest/back is day 3.
BTW, treadmill running is very little work. You're not actually running, you're just stopping yourself from falling. The transition from treadmill running to actual triathlon training was surprising in that regard. The treadmill just doesn't seem like any work at all in comparison to actually being on the road.
Shoulders/arms and then ab ripper X. Both done.
Nice. I sent in a request for them to create a BYOAC group. Apparently the admins have to do it themselves.
Might not be a good idea to do the ab ripper on plyo night. Doesn't seem like a good match. I'd just chalk that one up to a missed ab session.
Crud!
I did chest and back, I would have probably skipped the ab ripper but if you're doing it I'll do the ab ripper tonight.
AmericanDemon, I restarted my 90 days(again) after taking a month off. What's your progress?
Sign up on Team Beachbody (http://www.milliondollarbody.com). I saw Chad's calendar yesterday and seeing that he was actually working out and tracking it is what got my butt out of bed today.
I got my Pull Up Bar today. Set it all up. Crazy! I could do 3 wide arm pull ups, but that was it.
Now if I can figure out teambeachbody, I'll be set. LOL
Chad, do we have a BYOAC club yet?
---Cleveland steamer---, if Chad posts before/after pics that resemble the results on TV, I will fork over the money for the real thing same day and FORCE myself to complete the plan. That is a bona-fide promise.
---Cleveland steamer---, if Chad posts before/after pics that resemble the results on TV, I will fork over the money for the real thing same day and FORCE myself to complete the plan. That is a bona-fide promise.
BTW, another potential tip for those taking protein powder. It's ---smurfing--- disgusting, of course, but I found a pretty tolerable way to eat it. There's this drinkable yogurt the grocery stores here carry called Yo-Gusto. The nice thing about it is that, unlike other drinkable yogurts, it's sold in half-gallon jugs, so you don't have to buy a bunch of single-servings. I mix a scoop of vanilla protein powder into ~4oz. of yogurt and it goes down easy. It adds lots of calories and sugar, though. 4oz. adds:
110 calories
35 from fat
7g of fat
4g sat. fat
33g sugar
9g protein
Anyway, if you can use the extra calories, or if you can fit it into your diet, it makes for one of the best ways I've found to choke down protein powder. And you get the supposed extra pro-biotic health benefits of yogurt too.
Oh, and adding a teaspoon of peanut butter (plain old as-natural-as-possible is best) REALLY kills the cardboard powder taste, but if you don't like peanut butter either..... :dunno
We're talking about going on a strict diet and exercising your muscles to failure almost every single day. For three months straight. What possible reason could you have for doubting the results?
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Oh, and adding a teaspoon of peanut butter (plain old as-natural-as-possible is best) REALLY kills the cardboard powder taste, but if you don't like peanut butter either..... :dunno
Drew:
Do you blend your double cheeseburger IN the frosty or do you just dunk?
Just finished the Kenpo.
The thing that impresses me most about this program after 1 week is the arrangement. You work a specific body area really hard, and the next day it's tight and sore... but the next workout specifically loosens it up. Chest/back followed by plyo/stretching. Shoulders/arms followed by Yoga. Legs/back followed by Kenpo. I'm spent but feel good and do see results after the first week. Tomorrow is rest day 1 and I'm looking forward to it.
Adding a fruit like Chad
The thing that impresses me most about this program after 1 week is the arrangement. You work a specific body area really hard, and the next day it's tight and sore... but the next workout specifically loosens it up. Chest/back followed by plyo/stretching. Shoulders/arms followed by Yoga. Legs/back followed by Kenpo. I'm spent but feel good and do see results after the first week.
What does the plain whey powder taste like? I just assumed they all tasted like ass, to varying degrees.
I'm going to start my own company. You heard of this thing, the P90X? This is going to blow that out of the water. Listen to this...
P--60--X
Think about it, you walk into a video store, you see P90X sitting there. There's P60X right beside it.
Which one are you going to pick, man?
WTF is a P90 X?
A 1990 Pedro Xeminez sherry?
A new Nikon?
Viagra competitor?
I see this ---smurf-poop--- topic taking up 50% of all recent posts every time I check BYOAC :banghead:
Can some mod lock it pleaze?
Forgot there are some countries with a national weight problem.
Is there a reason to do this again? :banghead:
I'm going to start my own company. You heard of this thing, the P90X? This is going to blow that out of the water. Listen to this...
P--60--X
Think about it, you walk into a video store, you see P90X sitting there. There's P60X right beside it.
Which one are you going to pick, man?
Yeah, but what happens when the next guy comes along and comes out with P30X..... :dunno ;D
Started week two yesterday and did the ab ripper for the first time. I feel like I've been hit in the stomach with a sledge hammer. I ended up skipping Yoga and legs last week.
Core Synergistics was fairly nice today, smooth and calm again, I didn’t really push too hard because my legs are sore from hiking all over this weekend, but I finished the whole thing (didn’t do the bonus moves) and felt good and strong. Hopefully I can get some more sleep tonight than I did last night and bring it more for Cardio X.
I was surprised to see this one at my local Walgreens:
Iron Gym Total Upper Body Workout Bar (http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=301561&navAction=jump&navCount=0&id=prod4253865)
When I started this routine I realized that a pull up bar and dumbbells would be the last workout equipment I'd ever need/buy, so for my b-day I bought myself a set of these:
Sport 5.0 (http://www.powerblock.com/blocks.html)
I got a used set of those Power Blocks from Play It Again Sports about a year ago. They're insanely expensive to purchase brand new.
This program only requires dumbbells and a pullup bar?
What weight of dumbbells are needed? I have a variety of them going up to 25 pounds.
What/where is the fitness test? I don't see it in my videos.
Arms & Shoulders + Ab Ripper done.
SOOOOOOO sore from plyometrics on wednesday.
Wait until you get to legs/back and have to do the 90 second wall squat. :dizzy:
For me Yoga is worse. I sweat more in Yoga than maybe half the other workouts combined.
I didn't realize our goal for this program was to prevent getting beaten with baseball bats. :dizzy:
Dartful, your current condition won't translate directly to running, but if you started to run regularly you would be down to lower times much quicker than you would otherwise. Moving to a new thing is always tough the first week. The difference is how fast you can improve in week 3 over week 1. 35 min/5k for a dude over 200lb isn't terrible.
yeah . . . i haven't worked out once since that last post. it's killing me. i was feeling so good, too. now i feel like ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, though i've stopped doing other things too, like sleeping and eating well . . . and apparently using good grammar, lol. it's killing me.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, earlier this week I got coaxed by some random woman into jogging 1.5 miles with her and that was the first time I had evergonejogged that far in my life.
Then, on Friday, some random dude on the trail stopped me and told me he had been watching me since March and I was looking great and to keep it up. Later my wife tells me he was making a pass at me. :-\
Today I went out for 5 miles, 3 of it jogged. I don't anticipate being able to walk tomorrow. At least it'll be from leg pain. ;)
Heh, I think you are Chad.
I got a set of the rubber tube things last week. Me and the wife have been learning how to use them during our nightly workouts.
I realize I am not ready for p90x, because my flexibility is HORRIBLE. I will injure myself for sure. Before I even attempt that, I will be doing Yoga/Pilates for a while to limber up.
I can't believe you did the stretching. According to the guide you can either stretch or take a rest day.
70lb is a pretty big achievement. Awesome.
Anyway, I'm blunt about all this because I want people (men) to feel comfortable going.
50 mins of Yoga. Forget being sick. I say eff you Jobu. I do it myself.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, I can hold Warrior 3 well now and can get into standing splits for a little bit. :)
....Yeah....we aren't discussing the in's and out's of Yoga with you Chad. I'm still clinging to my man card.
Yeah, but they don't sit around the bar afterwards and discuss their warrior form, or how deep they can go into standing splits!
My body building coworker says that P90X is 'really hard', though. :P
My body building coworker says that P90X is 'really hard', though. :P
Well, a lot of body-builders actually aren't very flexible, nor have much if any endurance.
Chad, you'll be happy to know karma bit me in the ass and I am now doing power yoga.
I'm at the point now where if I want to move on I have to lose the rest of my belly fat. It actually gets in the way of some of the movements and limits breathing while I'm all twisted up.
Did you injure it during your trapeze routine at the circus?
Look at it this way - a lot of this stuff is the same type of stuff you have to be able to do to achieve advanced belts in most martial arts. Is that not manly either?
These look like they may be perfect for the P90X system. Seem to be backordered at the moment, but it's a great price!
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2950590
He uses these dumbbells:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8477371&findingMethod=rr
Unless you are a bodybuilder, 25lb is more than enough. You just do more reps, or slow them down. These would also be awesome for 'peel the puppy' set styles.
Tip for today:
Don't smash your face.
Kenpo done.
Dartful? American Demon? shmokes?
Don't skip the Ab Ripper. I would always skip it, but then got guilted into doing by Chad. It sucks, I can barely do half the sit-ups, but I felt results from it by the second week.
Don't skip the Ab Ripper. I would always skip it, but then got guilted into doing by Chad. It sucks, I can barely do half the sit-ups, but I felt results from it by the second week.
I did the Ab ripper last night, there were no sit ups. do you mean the sideways thingies where you do 20 reps on each side?
You should get a work-out buddy. These work-outs are only as hard as you want them to be, so if you have a wife or girlfriend you should ask them to do it with you. My friend's wife was doing it with us and she was getting better/faster results, so she became the lead motivator of our group.
p90x PLUS (http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_programs/p90x_plus.do)
It's when you've eaten breakfast that you find yourself starving to death by 11 AM.
Has anyone tried the Beach Body - Insanity workout? I hear it's umm... insane.
I don't believe in special diets.. really It's about eating more veggies and fruits than usual and reducing portions overall.
Of the diets the paleo diet aka caveman diet seems doable (lots of veggies and fruit, very little carbs), and the zone is really annoying (weighing your food? really!?)
Also, I've been doing it, and I feel great. My fat is disappearing quickly, and I go through the entire day with lots of energy and alertness, entirely free of periods of sudden sleepiness.
I don't believe in special diets.. really It's about eating more veggies and fruits than usual and reducing portions overall.
Of the diets the paleo diet aka caveman diet seems doable (lots of veggies and fruit, very little carbs), and the zone is really annoying (weighing your food? really!?)
Any time you change you make an ongoing change to your diet that deviates from your normal eating habits, or from the way you want to eat, I'm pretty sure you're on a diet. And considering the rate of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc., in America (and elsewhere), I'd say dieting is kind of an imperative right now.
The Warrior Diet, which has a stupid name, is based on the premise that evolutionarily, we are not meant to eat multiple meals per day. As hunters/gatherers, we used to spend the day hunting and only had a big meal at the end of the day once we were safe from harm. Wild animals behave in generally the same way. But when captured and put in captivity they will eat and eat and eat until they get fat, sick and die. So zookeepers have to ration their food and manage their diets to protect them from themselves. The warrior diet is based on the premise that humans are, in a sense, in captivity. We no longer have to hunt for our food. We're not in danger. We live sedentary lifestyles. And we behave, dietarily speaking, as if we are living in captivity.
I won't say that I buy it lock, stock, and barrel (I simply don't know enough about us), but it is intuitively appealing at least. It's an interesting and plausible idea. Also, I've been doing it, and I feel great. My fat is disappearing quickly, and I go through the entire day with lots of energy and alertness, entirely free of periods of sudden sleepiness.
The Warrior Diet, which has a stupid name, is based on the premise that evolutionarily, we are not meant to eat multiple meals per day. As hunters/gatherers, we used to spend the day hunting and only had a big meal at the end of the day once we were safe from harm.
If one meal a day made you thin, I would be a stick. I usually only have one meal a day right now, and don't even snack anymore or even have soft drinks. I know my diet isn't healthy because I am not getting enough nutrition early in the day. Also, I haven't lost a pound.
Thing is I don't get a chance to exercise at all right now. I'm sure if I had a chance to jog or bike, my body might decide to get out or hibernation mode.
Yep, and the average person only uses 2% of their brain!
How many other health myths we gonna repeat?
I want to go back to that, but the long work hours and a kid make it more difficult to do.
I want to go back to that, but the long work hours and a kid make it more difficult to do.
I used to work ten hours a day, had two small kids, and lifted ~7 hours a week. The time is there. You just have to find it. I had to use 8:30-10pm to get it done. I know lots of folks who go the other way and do it at 5am.
The Warrior Diet, which has a stupid name, is based on the premise that evolutionarily, we are not meant to eat multiple meals per day. As hunters/gatherers, we used to spend the day hunting and only had a big meal at the end of the day once we were safe from harm.
As hunters/gatherers we used to have a lifespan of 35 years. As part time hunters/gatherers we had a lifespan of 50 years. Factoring out truly advanced medical care what would the average lifespan be now? 60? We evolved away from many things because we found better ways to do them.
Warrior diet? Is that what you feed a 16 year old farm boy before you put a club/sword/gun in his hand and send him off to die?
I want to go back to that, but the long work hours and a kid make it more difficult to do.
I used to work ten hours a day, had two small kids, and lifted ~7 hours a week. The time is there. You just have to find it. I had to use 8:30-10pm to get it done. I know lots of folks who go the other way and do it at 5am.
if you live in an area with an abundant food supply (as hunter-gatherer tribes, if they want to survive, tend to do) . . . . The short life spans were primarily a result of having an inconsistent food supply . . . .
Ah, yes, the shmokes or ChadTower or Xiaou2 or HowardCasto or MaximRecoil or Darren_Harris or ______ "to debate me would be crazy/idiotic/insane/ridiculous" point. Always worth a laugh. :laugh2:Fixt. ;D
Ah, yes, the shmokes "to debate me would be crazy/idiotic/insane/ridiculous" point. Always worth a laugh. :laugh2:
I don't get why it's much of an issue. Eat less in sum total and expend more in sum total. It doesn't matter all that much if you're eating your 1700 calories in one shot or in 17 shots. Same with burning calories. Run 10 miles or run 1 mile 10 times. The difference is not all that much and they both work.
The only difference that actually matters is how a person works the logistics into their lifestyle. That can, and most often is, the difference between success and failure.
Ah, yes, the shmokes "to debate me would be crazy/idiotic/insane/ridiculous" point. Always worth a laugh. :laugh2:
Over half of Americans are overweight, and about a third are full-on obese. So yeah, to "argue that there aren't fundamental problems with our society's diet . . . would be idiotic." Of course, you're not arguing that. You're just taking a totally unwarranted swipe at me over a statement that you agree with 100%. Which is also sort of idiotic.
Yeah but they are kinda crazy what they call "over weight". Im 6'3 and Im about 220 pounds. The stupid doctor says I should be at 190-200. I would look like a skeleton dipped in wax. Screw that. You have to take into the account that people dont necessarily mean to be obese, but parts of the country are too poor to eat healthy, and were never educated on it. But I do think Chads comment is funny. :lol
Ah, yes, the shmokes "to debate me would be crazy/idiotic/insane/ridiculous" point. Always worth a laugh. :laugh2:
Over half of Americans are overweight, and about a third are full-on obese. So yeah, to "argue that there aren't fundamental problems with our society's diet . . . would be idiotic." Of course, you're not arguing that. You're just taking a totally unwarranted swipe at me over a statement that you agree with 100%. Which is also sort of idiotic.
Yeah but they are kinda crazy what they call "over weight". Im 6'3 and Im about 220 pounds. The stupid doctor says I should be at 190-200. I would look like a skeleton dipped in wax. Screw that. You have to take into the account that people dont necessarily mean to be obese, but parts of the country are too poor to eat healthy, and were never educated on it. But I do think Chads comment is funny. :lol
Yeah but they are kinda crazy what they call "over weight".
The p90x way of building strength for pull ups is pull ups. But put a chair or stool on the floor in front of you that you can put your toe on for an assist. The further away the chair is, the less an assist your foot can give. So you can keep moving the chair further until you can pull up without it. Or keep it there, but unused, for the first however many reps you can do and then use the chair to push out a couple extra cheat reps to build more strength.
Yeah but they are kinda crazy what they call "over weight".
See, I don't think you're really arguing this. That would be idiotic. The next time you go to a movie theater get there early and watch as people come into the theater. Most Americans are visibly overweight. Anyway, even if only a third were, that would be a serious problem. We eat poorly here. To seriously argue differently would be idiotic.
Some of the most athletic and fit people out there are statistically obese.
What you are referring to are statistical outliers. Few athletes actually fit that description. That's just like hardcore lifters and NFL linebackers.
They don't substantially degrade the statistic, as is obvious by just, like, looking around. Anyway, the outliers are likely controlled for in the statistic, since it would be super easy to do so. Either way, though, our country is fat, whether it's 60% like the stats say, or even half that.
Athletic and fit are relative terms.
Chris Farley could be considered athletic and fit, but he was statistically and truly obese.
Gotta love a country where even the unemployed people are fat.
I dont care what you say, eating healthy is not cheap.
I dont care what you say, eating healthy is not cheap.
Eating yummy enjoyable healthy foods is not cheap. Eating easy to prepare healthy foods is not cheap. There is nothing expensive about stuff like tuna, peanut butter, and low grade meats. They have the same protein and fat content as better tasting or premade healthy foods. The difference is that they don't taste as good or take more effort to prepare. Taking one chicken and preparing several meals from it is cheap. One person can eat for a whole week on one chicken and a bag of potatoes. A family of four can eat for 2-3 days that way. All of those options are a lot less expensive than the dollar menu at McDonald's and none of them will make you fat even if you tried.
pimballjim was dead on. Most people here don't really know what truly poor means.
You have to keep in mind though, a lot of poor people have large families.
I also wanted to clarify that I wasnt trying to sound like a jerk or anything when I said "I dont care what you say..." :cheers:
Not to mention that most of them live in areas where it isn't safe/desirable to go and exercise outdoors for free.
Not to mention that most of them live in areas where it isn't safe/desirable to go and exercise outdoors for free.
That's way too tight a category. There are a whole lot of people in that class who aren't in dense urban areas.
This is just my opinion but I blame television way more than I blame fast food or anything else. Take TV away and how many hours a day does the average person get back? They could use that time doing the things you just said they don't have time to do. That goes across all weight classes and incomes.
I bought a couple 36 waist jeans last weekend because I no longer fit into my 34s.
I bought a couple 36 waist jeans last weekend because I no longer fit into my 34s.
I had to buy a couple 38 waist jeans cause I no longer fit into my 34s... :'(
Holy Hell! I thought "Chest & Back" was hard, Yoga X is insane! They say that you should make small goals that can be accomplished along the way. Mine is now to be able to complete Yoga X. Right now I can do about 30 min. :(Have you tried plyometrics yet? Yoga is a beast too. I got thru chest and back along with the one on arms fairly well. The cardio was killing me in plyo though.
As you start approaching the halfway point in Yoga you will seriously consider saying, "---fudgesicle--- this!" Fight that urge. At the halfway point it switches from moving postures to balance postures. The first half is about 75% more difficult. If you can push through it, the second half will be a comparative piece of cake.
Question on protein shakes and the like... Drink one after every workout or just the anaerobic ones? I ask because my understanding of protein shakes is that you should drink them to help rebuild the broken down muscles and after the Plyometrics disc and Kenpo I don't feel like I've broken down anything. I've been drinking them anyway until now because I figure it can't hurt anything but I guess I wouldn't mind saving a few bucks by not drinking them if there is no point.
I think I might do the Xstretch.
Did you know there's a P90X2 ?
Anyways 1/9th done (aka 10 days in). I'm down to 195 and I can actually do pull ups now. I'm looking forward to YogaX. Its really tough to work out this week cause Im working 70 hours :/
My workplace just had done a biggest loser thing that I joined in on. It worked out well for me since I am a competitive guy. I didn't really do any physical exercise beyond my normal activity level, all I did was portion control, stopped eating after 8:30, and swapped out Coke for water during the day. In the 12 week period I lost 28 pounds and won.
Now all I have to do if figure out what to buy myself with the $320 I won.