p90x

[shardian]

Schmokes, the spinach in the smoothie is good. Thx for the advice. It is nice to knock off an extra veggie serving/day without effort.

[ChadTower]

I'm going to save spinach in the drink for later on when I need to tweak it for variety.  Sounds worth trying.

Here is what appears to be an insanely useful spreadsheet for p90x.

[shardian]

I'm going to save spinach in the drink for later on when I need to tweak it for variety.  Sounds worth trying.

Here is what appears to be an insanely useful spreadsheet for p90x.

Go ahead and add it now. Fresh baby spinach adds or detracts ZERO flavor, and practically melts away to nothing texture wise. You do get the benefit of extra fiber, iron, vitamins, etc.

[ChadTower]

I would have to subtract a veggie serving from another meal - right now that's mostly carrots and I want those.  Soon enough I'll be sick of all those carrots and can make the switch then.  I always have a lot of baby carrots around anyway because my turtles eat so many of them.

[ChadTower]

One more point... the tools over at Team Beachbody seem a lot better suited to the group effort than a thread here... you can set up groups, log your workouts, get a coach, all that stuff and there doesn't appear to be any cost for the basic toolset.  I just registered, if others want to, PM me your usernames and we'll set up a group.

[Dartful Dodger]

One more point... the tools over at Team Beachbody seem a lot better suited to the group effort than a thread here... you can set up groups, log your workouts, get a coach, all that stuff and there doesn't appear to be any cost for the basic toolset.  I just registered, if others want to, PM me your usernames and we'll set up a group.

You need to enter a real credit card to join.

I tried to use a Visa gift card that has about 5 bucks on it and they said the credit card number does not appear to be valid.

Are there more people joining this Beach Body site?

my friends wife joined it after we started this.  I'm glad i didn't join it then, I would be even more upset to learn how many "90" days have gone by since I should have started this thing.

[ChadTower]

That's odd.  I didn't enter any type of credit card info to join.  It assigned me a coach, let me set up a calendar and prepopulated it. 

[ChadTower]

Started today... finished the chest/back workout without pausing.  I did throw up 4 times during the cool down, though.  I'll have to do the ab part tonight.  I'm out of gas.  Tough.

[shmokes]

LMAO @ vomiting four times. 

I'm still waiting for my pull-up bar to arrive (and to get my wife interested enough to read some of the material).  I got my mat and my stretchy bands (a full set of dumbbells is way out of my price range right now). 

BTW, another potential tip for those taking protein powder.  It's ---smurfing--- disgusting, of course, but I found a pretty tolerable way to eat it.  There's this drinkable yogurt the grocery stores here carry called Yo-Gusto.  The nice thing about it is that, unlike other drinkable yogurts, it's sold in half-gallon jugs, so you don't have to buy a bunch of single-servings.  I mix a scoop of vanilla protein powder into ~4oz. of yogurt and it goes down easy.  It adds lots of calories and sugar, though.  4oz. adds:

110 calories
35 from fat
7g of fat
4g sat. fat
33g sugar
9g protein

Anyway, if you can use the extra calories, or if you can fit it into your diet, it makes for one of the best ways I've found to choke down protein powder.  And you get the supposed extra pro-biotic health benefits of yogurt too.

[shmokes]

That's odd.  I didn't enter any type of credit card info to join.  It assigned me a coach, let me set up a calendar and prepopulated it. 

When you click your link you have the option to "Connect and Interact"  or something, as well as "Join the Club".  Joining the club costs money (30-day free trial, then like $3/month), and presumably gives you more benefits.  I just signed up for a membership under Connect and Interact and it didn't ask me for a credit card.



Edit:  As I'm looking around the site virtually every time I click on something that looks useful or interesting I get the message, "You must be a member of the Team Beach Body Club to use this feature."

[ChadTower]

Yeah, the community features do seem to want you to pay, but the logs and calendar work free.

I'm not seeing how you say protein powder is disgusting?  Drop some into a blender with a cup of juice, throw in some strawberries or other fruit, and it's not much different than a $4 fruit smoothie.  When I drank two of them a day one of them would be all berry and the other chocolate peanut butter. 

Did the ab workout last night but it's obvious I have a ways to go before I can even come close to full sets of 25 on many of those exercises.  Fortunately the guy repeats over and over "do what you can do, pace yourself, and rest if you need it."  Makes you feel like less of a dork for only doing 5 and then doing another 3 before the minute is up.

After one day on the diet, I have to say... this is a lot of food.  More than anticipated.  The dinner last night was piled up high on my plate.  Of course, it was plain chicken breast, carrots, and apples, but it was a whole lot of them.  I'm going to have to adjust the diet some because there aren't many vegetables I can eat without gagging.

[ChadTower]

Plyo workout done.  Paced myself a little more than yesterday... did 20 seconds in the 30 second stints, then did the full 60 second stints.  No pauses but no puking either.

[polaris]

I would have to subtract a veggie serving from another meal - right now that's mostly carrots and I want those.  Soon enough I'll be sick of all those carrots and can make the switch then.  I always have a lot of baby carrots around anyway because my turtles eat so many of them.

i'm confused does this plan have a max amount of veggies or is it that you couldnt bear eating more than you have to cos of the gagging thing.
is it just cooked veg you gag on, i get that , i think its the texture more than anything

[ChadTower]

It breaks things down into servings within categories... I have to eat 4 servings of veggies a day in the first 30 days.  There are few vegetables I can eat without gagging, mostly because I hate them, but some just because of texture.  As soon as they hit my soft pallet those ones come back up.  I can deal with raw carrots but not 4 servings a day of them.  I found today I do actually like munching on spinach, though, and that counts.  So I see a lot of spinach coming up.

[leapinlew]

It breaks things down into servings within categories... I have to eat 4 servings of veggies a day in the first 30 days.  There are few vegetables I can eat without gagging, mostly because I hate them, but some just because of texture.  As soon as they hit my soft pallet those ones come back up.  I can deal with raw carrots but not 4 servings a day of them.  I found today I do actually like munching on spinach, though, and that counts.  So I see a lot of spinach coming up.

As long as you keep trying them, your pallet will become more sophisticated. So, just keep giving it a go. It took several years to train my wife who led a very sheltered culinary life, but she's really good about trying foods now.

And that texture argument is lame. The texture of pizza, pudding, ice cream, etc are all gooeey, slimey and gross but people like them because they taste good.

[ChadTower]

Actually, a lot of desserts make me throw up too, as well as a lot of fruits.  It's not slimy or gooey.  It's pulpy.  You can argue with the doctors about it if you want but it is a known condition that some people have to varying degrees.  One of my sons has it too and my wife was like you - she thought I was making it up until she saw our son throwing up the same foods in the same way pretty much from birth.  I wouldn't be surprised at all if the sleep apnea, which is obstruction within the soft pallet/throat, has the same root cause.

[Ummon]

It took several years to train my wife...

And here I thought you were single.

[Singapura]

There are few vegetables I can eat without gagging, mostly because I hate them, but some just because of texture.

My boss has the same problem. Can't eat fruit or vegetables at all. Btw if you think raw spinach is gooey, try stir frying it in some olive oil. It becomes much smoother. The thing is, now that I'm supposed to eat only the prescribed food, I'm craving for burgers and deserts! I never had that when I was just eating normal food. I think I'll just try to stay away from the oily Asian foods that everyone eats here...  Also, I don't eat huge portions or snack in between anyway.

[ChadTower]

Raw spinach isn't gooey at all.  It's a dry leaf.   

[Dartful Dodger]

That's odd.  I didn't enter any type of credit card info to join.  It assigned me a coach, let me set up a calendar and prepopulated it. 

When you click your link you have the option to "Connect and Interact"  or something, as well as "Join the Club".  Joining the club costs money (30-day free trial, then like $3/month), and presumably gives you more benefits.  I just signed up for a membership under Connect and Interact and it didn't ask me for a credit card.

Cool, that worked.

[Dartful Dodger]

Chat live with Tony Horton!
Monday, November 24th, at 7:00 PM CT



I tried the Wii fit yesterday.  It's fun, but I'm not sure if it's a real work out.  Although anything that gets you off your butt is something.  Plus the daily weigh in could be useful.

My nephew has been playing it every day for a month and he's obsessed with it.  What's funny is he's more interested in the results his Mii is getting from the game than the actual health results he could be getting.

[ChadTower]

Chat live with Tony Horton!
Monday, November 24th, at 7:00 PM CT

Eh, not sure I could deal with that guy in person.  I know the movitational/sales part of this is necessary for many people but it gets on my nerves after a while.  I don't want the guy continually yelling motivation at me.  If I weren't motivated I wouldn't be doing it to begin with.  And stop selling it to me once I already have it.  I can't see someone buying a second copy.

[Dartful Dodger]

I don't want the guy continually yelling motivation at me.  If I weren't motivated I wouldn't be doing it to begin with.

His timing is pretty good.  The first time did the Yoga DVD I was ready to quit, I told my friend that I was too sore from doing all the other work outs and I figured 45 minutes of Yoga was enough.  Just as I was grabbing my water bottle Tony yells something like don't give up now the hard part is over...

It was creepy. he did that a few other times, like when he said "if the warm up is killing you wait till we start the work out", right after I said something like ”…and this just the warm up”.

the dude is 50 and he looks younger than me.  Maybe some of that is due to surgery, make up and dye, but he can’t fake that body.

Admittedly I look a little stupid jogging in circles in my living room with a wiimote in my pocket but meh.

I didn't have time to do much of the Wii fit.  All I tried was the ski jump and hoola hoop game.

I can guarantee you didn't look as stupid as me hoola hooping with an imaginary hoola hoop.

[ChadTower]

Shoulders/arms and then ab ripper X.  Both done. 

[shmokes]

If I had to guess, I'd say that 45 minutes of it is probably a 400-500 calorie workout. 

I've only played with Wii Fit for a total of about 10 minutes, none of it strenuous, but I'm gonna go with my gut and say that's a REALLY generous estimate.  When I go to the gym and run two miles on the treadmill I only get ~250 calories out of that.  That's like 15 minutes of nonstop running at level 7 plus about 3 minutes of cool-down at level 4 and 2 minutes at level 1.  By my math, you're saying that Wii fit is roughly as good a workout as that, i.e., if I doubled my cardio from 20 minutes to 40 minutes I'd be working out for about the same as long as your Wii Fit workout, and I'd burn ~500 calories.

Now, granted, I'm small and light (5'6" ~133 lbs), so you might burn more calories running 2 miles on a treadmill than I do.  But I just don't think 45 minutes on Wii fit is going to burn close to 400 calories for anyone.  But, like I say, I have very little concrete information to base this opinion on.  Just my gut instinct.

[shmokes]

I'm scheduled to do my first P90X today, but I have a cold so I'm afraid to strain myself for fear of sending myself into coughing fits and making myself worse.  Also, my pull-up bar didn't arrive today, as I thought it would.  I'm supposed to to chest/back and ab ripper today.  Not sure if I even need the bar, but I think I'd better not workout until I'm over my cold.

[ChadTower]

I'm scheduled to do my first P90X today, but I have a cold so I'm afraid to strain myself for fear of sending myself into coughing fits and making myself worse.  Also, my pull-up bar didn't arrive today, as I thought it would.  I'm supposed to to chest/back and ab ripper today.  Not sure if I even need the bar, but I think I'd better not workout until I'm over my cold.

You need the bar.  I'd rearrange the order a bit so the shoulders/arms is day 1 and chest/back is day 3.

BTW, treadmill running is very little work.  You're not actually running, you're just stopping yourself from falling.  The transition from treadmill running to actual triathlon training was surprising in that regard.  The treadmill just doesn't seem like any work at all in comparison to actually being on the road.

[polaris]

I'm scheduled to do my first P90X today, but I have a cold so I'm afraid to strain myself for fear of sending myself into coughing fits and making myself worse.  Also, my pull-up bar didn't arrive today, as I thought it would.  I'm supposed to to chest/back and ab ripper today.  Not sure if I even need the bar, but I think I'd better not workout until I'm over my cold.

You need the bar.  I'd rearrange the order a bit so the shoulders/arms is day 1 and chest/back is day 3.

BTW, treadmill running is very little work.  You're not actually running, you're just stopping yourself from falling.  The transition from treadmill running to actual triathlon training was surprising in that regard.  The treadmill just doesn't seem like any work at all in comparison to actually being on the road.

i'd never thought of it that way, but yeah, cant be as good as hitting the streets rocky style

[shmokes]

I've been thinking that I want to start running outside.  I couldn't ask for better weather.  And for somebody living in Miami, I have a tendency to get unacceptably pale from spending all day in the library every day.  We'll have to see how I feel about it once I start doing P90X.

[ChadTower]

I wouldn't want to run much while doing this.  Last night after the two workouts I was pretty wiped.  That may be even harder for people not accustomed to strength training.  If the dude says to pace yourself, believe him, it's a long hour.  For the ab stuff I'm doing sets of 10 where they are doing 25.  I couldn't do 25 of some of the core exercises they are doing even without a time limit.  That will come in time.  Core work is the part I've always done the least.

I don't really like running, but in terms of easy access and value, can't beat it.

[Dartful Dodger]

Shoulders/arms and then ab ripper X.  Both done. 

Crud!
I did chest and back, I would have probably skipped the ab ripper but if you're doing it I'll do the ab ripper tonight.

AmericanDemon, I restarted my 90 days(again) after taking a month off.  What's your progress?

Sign up on Team Beachbody. I saw Chad's calendar yesterday and seeing that he was actually working out and tracking it is what got my butt out of bed today.

[ChadTower]

Nice.  I sent in a request for them to create a BYOAC group.  Apparently the admins have to do it themselves.

Might not be a good idea to do the ab ripper on plyo night.  Doesn't seem like a good match.  I'd just chalk that one up to a missed ab session.

[Dartful Dodger]

Nice.  I sent in a request for them to create a BYOAC group.  Apparently the admins have to do it themselves.

Might not be a good idea to do the ab ripper on plyo night.  Doesn't seem like a good match.  I'd just chalk that one up to a missed ab session.

Cool, I figured those groups were a paid subscription thing.

It won't matter when I do the ab ripper.  The last(only) time I did the ab ripper by stomach hurt for a week.

[ChadTower]

Yoga X.  Got about 2/3 of the way through before it was way too advanced and I was way too wobbly to do anything useful.  I'll get better at it.  Yoga isn't exactly something you can just jump right into.

Modified the diet today a little bit because I was so sick of chicken.  Ten meals in a row.  Swapped in catfish with dinner.

[AmericanDemon]

Crud!
I did chest and back, I would have probably skipped the ab ripper but if you're doing it I'll do the ab ripper tonight.

AmericanDemon, I restarted my 90 days(again) after taking a month off.  What's your progress?

Sign up on Team Beachbody. I saw Chad's calendar yesterday and seeing that he was actually working out and tracking it is what got my butt out of bed today.

I got my Pull Up Bar today.  Set it all up.  Crazy!  I could do 3 wide arm pull ups, but that was it.  Still finishing up the last bits of my diet and nutrition.  I have a goal of Monday to actually start i nthe program with all of the food and workout. 

Plus, I have a roomate who is going to do this as well.  Motivation is a good thing.  I popped in the Yoga DVD and we walked through a couple things and its amazing how much it makes you sweat.  We also popped in the ab ripper dvd and worked on the first 5 minutes of it for grins to get a feel for what they are about.  It was intense.

This is going to rock!  Chad, congrats on getting started.  You are helping us all step up and start our training.  Now if I can figure out teambeachbody, I'll be set.  LOL

[Dartful Dodger]

I got my Pull Up Bar today.  Set it all up.  Crazy!  I could do 3 wide arm pull ups, but that was it. 

When you do DVD 1 it shows you how to do assisted pull-ups.
I wasn't able to do 1 pull-up on my own.  After about two weeks of doing assisted pull-ups I was able to do 6 unassisted.

Now if I can figure out teambeachbody, I'll be set.  LOL

I thought it was just me. ...and why is there a video on every page of that site?

Chad has some kind of crazy web skills. I had assumed I couldn't do anything without  a paid subscription, but then I noticed an email from beach body saying that Chad had added me to a buddy list.  I didn't even know there was a buddy list.  That’s when I tried to figure out the site.

Here is what you need to know to get started:

http://www.milliondollarbody.com/
Click on the "Connect" button at the bottom to register (thanks Shmokes)

After you register on the left side there is a "Manage Profile" section.
Click on the "Exercise and Fitness" tab near the top.
Click on the "Transformation Tracker" button near the bottom of the page.

Now you are at the part of the webpage that you actually need.

You can click on the view profile button under your picture in the upper right of any page to see your profile.

Chad, do we have a BYOAC club yet?

[ChadTower]

Chad, do we have a BYOAC club yet?

Haven't heard back from them yet.  They did say it takes 24-48 hours.

Everything you need for the most part is in the WOWY section.  Stuff outside of that is mostly trying to sell you things.  The website is definitely confusing.  They have a forum, too, but it looks sorta hard to slide into the community.  Might be a little easier once we have everyone in the group established.

[shmokes]

My pull-up bar came today.  It's a pretty cool little contraption.

I'm to the point in my cold where I felt pretty crappy this morning and was blowing and coughing out tons of crap, but now I feel tip top, but later tonight I'll probably feel a bit iffy again.  We'll see . . . I'm probably not quite to the point where I should do a full-on, strenuous workout if I don't want to be sent into a coughing fit and set my recovery back by a few days.  So we'll see.  Also, I've basically not even touched nutrition.  I really need to just sit down with my wife and get it all figured out, but it's crunch-time for me at school.  Finals are coming up, and I'm spending just about every waking hour studying . . . often at the library.

I've got all the hardware now.  Hopefully I'll be well, and have the nutrition stuff preliminarily nailed down within the next two or three days.

[ChadTower]

Nice to see we still have hecklers... I was beginning to think they didn't have the testicular fortitude to even heckle the first week.  We know they couldn't do it.

Legs and back done tonight.  No ab ripper tonight, wearing out a bit, anxiously looking forward to friday.  That's rest day 1.

[shardian]

---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, if Chad posts before/after pics that resemble the results on TV, I will fork over the money for the real thing same day and FORCE myself to complete the plan. That is a bona-fide promise.