The NEW Build Your Own Arcade Controls
Main => Project Announcements => Topic started by: mountain on May 04, 2008, 10:55:54 pm
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Kits for this project are now available here (http://www.mountainjukeboxes.com/shop/standard-jukebox-assembled). (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=98274.0)
EDIT: Here are the completed pictures in case you don't feel like searching all of the pages. Scroll down to read the original post.
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[youtube]Pappy's Bartop Jukebox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwzIThnEsQ8&feature=channel_page#)[/youtube]
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I am taking a break from my Fantasy Cab build (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=77911.0) to focus on this new project that came up. My Father recently announced that he will be retiring July 1st. The whole family will be converging on their house May 31st to celebrate. This always includes late nights downstairs having a few drinks at the bar. After showing my Mom the in-wall Jukebox/Digital picture frame I installed in my house last December, she knew that my Dad would really appreciate one down in the bar. So... she asked me to build him one as one of the gifts from all of us kids (4).
I have less than a month to build it so I went at it pretty hard this weekend. I sketched up a few ideas Friday night and decided on the one below. It has a retro feel somewhere between an old tube radio and and old jukebox.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100440;image)
The first thing I had to do Saturday morning was fix my circle jig I made for my router. I built an adjustable one years ago out of MDF but the slide mechanism I made finally wore out. Once I fixed that, I was ready to go.
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(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100444;image)
I made the template for cutting out the jigs.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100446;image)
After cutting the jigs, I bore some holes to help with the clamping.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100448;image)
I screwed jigs to the base and added some temporary inserts to ensure the proper spacing.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100450;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100452;image)
I placed some tape on the bottom edges to keep the glue from bonding the bottom and sides. I need to remove the bottom and do some work to it before it can be permanently attached. I also put tape on a temporary strip of wood that will be used for clamping.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100454;image)
Saturday morning I ran out to get some suppies at a specialty woodworking store and discovered that they carry 1/8" MDF. I have heard of it before but had never seen it anywhere. I figured this was thin enough to bend so I grabbed a sheet. Here is a picture of the 1/8" on top of a 3/4" piece for reference.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100456;image)
Here is the first layer of the 1/8" MDF clamped around the curve.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100458;image)
After the glue set I used my router and a flush trim bit to trim off the excess material. I then sanded down the rest. now I have a better idea of what the final product will look like.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100460;image)
Here is a close up of the wrap job.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100462;image)
Here is the second layer of 1/8" MDF Glued and clamped.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100464;image)
I had to stop here because I really wanted all of the glue that it took for the second layer to really set before I started trimming it. I have to get the second layer trimmed and cut before I can continue because the final shape will be my template for cutting out the face of the jukebox.
More updates will follow.
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Looks great. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Oh, by the way that dog creeps me out.
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Awesome work!
Did you have to do anything the 1/8th inch MDF to get it to bend like that, or was it that flexible to begin with?
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wow - Looks great so far. I love the size too. I had no idea that 1/8" MDF was that flexible. I'm glad you have a hard deadline so we will be getting constant updates! :cheers:
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Oh, by the way that dog creeps me out.
:dizzy: Do you have a fear of Labradoodles or something??
Awesome work!
Did you have to do anything the 1/8th inch MDF to get it to bend like that, or was it that flexible to begin with?
Thanks
No, all I did was cut it to fit and clamped it real good. It bends very easily, I was surprised.
wow - Looks great so far. I love the size too. I had no idea that 1/8" MDF was that flexible. I'm glad you have a hard deadline so we will be getting constant updates! :cheers:
Thanks! The deadline is new, but it is really exciting to have this opportunity. I want to get out in front of it so I have time to tweak the interface to where anybody can use it.
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Labra-doodle :) I guess it's better than a Chi-Poo
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/poodlemix.htm
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How are the components going to fit in there? (speakers, computer, etc.)
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Very nice bud, can see this one coming out awesomely :)
HarumaN, you can also get flexible MDF with pre cut kerfs in it to aid bending it. I think you would struggle to bend anything much thicker than the 1/8" mountain is using. I know the flexible kerfed MDF isd availiable at least up to 19mm (3/4") which would be suitable for a more heavy duty application.
(http://www.buildingproducts.co.uk/products/319_052005.gif)
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How are the components going to fit in there? (speakers, computer, etc.)
I am going to use a Mini ITX motherboard. I am shopping around for one now. The screen will be the same as what I have in my wall. I don't plan on using any buttons. You can get them off of a guy on eBay that sells them regularly. I posted about them before over in the Jukebox forum. Here is the link. (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74097.0)
I am going to try and squeeze in a set of speakers, I just have to get everything built and see what I have room for. I really want to install one of these (http://techgage.com/article/altec_lansing_fx3020_soundbar/). I use one for my garage computer and it sounds really good. I am also going install an audio jack on the back so he can run a line to his stereo on the other side of the bar.
Very nice bud, can see this one coming out awesomely :)
HarumaN, you can also get flexible MDF with pre cut kerfs in it to aid bending it. I think you would struggle to bend anything much thicker than the 1/8" mountain is using. I know the flexible kerfed MDF isd availiable at least up to 19mm (3/4") which would be suitable for a more heavy duty application.
(http://www.buildingproducts.co.uk/products/319_052005.gif)
I have used a tablesaw to perf 1/2" and 3/4" MDF for bending in the past. This creates a ton of dust! To keep it strong you have to run a bead of glue down every groove. It gets messy real fast. For this application, 1/8" MDF seamed like the easiest solution.
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Labra-doodle :) I guess it's better than a Chi-Poo
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/poodlemix.htm
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/saintberdoodle.htm
A St. Bernard with a Jerry curl! :laugh2:
BTW, can't wait to see the finished product Mountain. Your craftsmanship is top notch.
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BTW, can't wait to see the finished product Mountain. Your craftsmanship is top notch.
Thanks shardian!
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I didn't get much done during the past week other than a little planning and measuring. I did get everything ordered though. The remainding parts should arrive sometime early next week.
I finally decided on the layout last night thanks to a loaner part from mccoy (you saved the buddy!) and started cutting the faceplate this afternoon. After cutting the openings for the marquee and screen I traced the outline on the decorative face material, 1/8" black Plexiglas.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100771;image)
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I put a 45 degree bevel around the openings too.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100777;image)
Here is a shot of the bartop after removing the supports and trimming away most of the jig material.
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This is all the further I got today. It doesn't look like much but it took me a good 6 hours to get this far. Things should fall together pretty quickly now, other than the the venting.
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Beer can shot for reference. :cheers:
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More updates tomorrow night.
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Aren't you supposed to be drinking this:
(http://www.beercollections.com/Breweries/Texas/Images/IM431318.gif)
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Great job on that plexi. The jig idea is really sharp.
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Nice, thats going to look realy sleek. 8)
What finish are you using for the rest of the jukebox?
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Thanks Franco, I am wrapping the top/sides with black laminate. I have yet to decide on the rear panel. :cheers:
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Today was not very productive. I had a near disastrous mishap with the router trying to remove the MDF at the monitor opening. I built a jig for cutting this area out since there is not a lot of material for the router to rest securely on the piece. After making a few passes I didn't realize that MDF dust was working its way under it. With the dust under there it raised one corner too high and it started to cut into the Plexiglas. Without knowing, I was moving the cutter pretty quick and the Plexi chipped where the 45 degree bevel is cut. I thought I was going to be sick! I had a good 8 hours of work into the piece at that time. About 15 passes into the Plexi, removing minuscule amounts each time, I was able to correct it.
Here is part of the jig I made to hold the piece in place. You can see the holes from the brad nailer that I used to temporarily hold the cutting guides.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100842;image)
A good shot of the routering i did today to make room for the marquee Plexiglas and the monitor. The center hole in the marquee area is for the volume knob.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100844;image)
The screen mounting is done!
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100846;image)
Does anyone have any tips for making bright glowing text effects? I have been looking but the tutorials that I have tried don't seem to work as good as I thought. I am struggling to come up with the marquee design. Anybody interested in helping? Please send me a PM.
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What about EL tape like I used on the poker table? Here is the link:
http://e-luminates.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=31 (http://e-luminates.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=31)
The price is $47 for an 8.5 x 11 sheet.
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Wow mountain - this thing is going to be sick. I love the volume knob placement and the beveled plexi. You really have an eye for design. I'd expect a ton of questions and a lot of copycats when this thing is finished! :cheers:
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What about EL tape like I used on the poker table? Here is the link:
http://e-luminates.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=31 (http://e-luminates.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=31)
The price is $47 for an 8.5 x 11 sheet.
Thanks for the link Ben. I want to go the traditional route with the marquee. I am looking for some really cool neon text since it is for his bar. I am stumped right now and a little worried. I need to get the graphic designed and ordered so it gets here in time.
Wow mountain - this thing is going to be sick. I love the volume knob placement and the beveled plexi. You really have an eye for design. I'd expect a ton of questions and a lot of copycats when this thing is finished! :cheers:
Wow, thanks javeryh! I can't wait to see it either. I am really looking forward pulling off the protective paper and seeing the glossy black face for the first time. Speaking of glossy, I spent about an hour tonight polishing the beveled edge around the marquee opening.
Check it out :cheers:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100901;image)
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Amazing! Please elaborate on how you achieved that beveled edge!
Did I miss something?
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Hey Mountain,
Fantastic work, as always!!!! :applaud:
I might be able to help out with the art,
sent you a PM,
Bender
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Amazing! Please elaborate on how you achieved that beveled edge!
Did I miss something?
Thanks a lot dm!
I began by cutting the openings out in the 1/2" MDF with the router. I then used a flush trim bit and cut the Plexiglas around the holes. Once that was done I took my 45 degree bit and beveled the edges. I started the polish process by knocking down the cut marks left behind by the router bit with 600 grit sandpaper. I used 1" by 2" pieces of sand paper. This sort of helps make me keep from getting too excited and trying to do too much at one time. I then moved up to 1000 grit and finally 2000 grit. Once I was was satisfied with the smoothness of the bevel, I switched over to the Novus 3 step polish system. This step is where the glossy appearance really comes alive. I kind of rushed it and plan on going over it once more to ensure that the bevel matches the face as much as possible.
Hey Mountain,
Fantastic work, as always!!!! :applaud:
I might be able to help out with the art,
sent you a PM,
Bender
Thank you so much for offering to help! I have sent you a PM.
I was able to finish a few minor details tonight. It appears I made this thing about 1 1/2" to narrow. It was a stretch tying to cram the monitor in there.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100972;image)
I finished the day by finally gluing the face to the frame. I was happy to finally find a use for those weights I had laying around. :D
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=100974;image)
I received the last components for this in the mail today. Tomorrow I am going to hook everthing up on the bench and configure the operating system and begin testing some jukebox apps.
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begin testing some jukebox apps.
Let me save you some time. Just use Freebox. It's amazing software.
www.freeboxjukebox.com
Barcrest makes it and he has a great piece of software there. I'd be interested to hear what McCoy thinks, but it looks like he's a freebox user as well.
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Freebox has been fantastic. I have complete faith in Barcrest and he has always made a wonderful product. :cheers:
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I finished the day by finally gluing the face to the frame. I was happy to finally find a use for those weights I had laying around. :D
Ughh, weights. I screwed up my back doing Up-Right Rows and my project has been sidelined. :(
However, your project is looking awesome Mountain.
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Is freebox only suited to albums or also singles? I use dwjukebox as I thought it was much more appropriate for a singles jukebox which is what I'm running... ie 1950's style without the cover art... which I actually think would suit this style of 'retro' jukebox better.
This jukebox shape looks like a really really old radio. If I were to copy it (which I probably will :D ) I'd put old-school dials on the bottom which switch to previous/next track etc :)
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Is freebox only suited to albums or also singles? I use dwjukebox as I thought it was much more appropriate for a singles jukebox which is what I'm running... ie 1950's style without the cover art... which I actually think would suit this style of 'retro' jukebox better.
This jukebox shape looks like a really really old radio. If I were to copy it (which I probably will :D ) I'd put old-school dials on the bottom which switch to previous/next track etc :)
Which makes sense and would be really cool if you only wanted a small assortment of songs. I agree that it would fit the theme as well.
For my money, I like to have most of my collection on my jukebox. Everything from Abba to ZZtop.
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I don't know if I'd call the top 100 from 1960 to 2007 a small collection, but I manage it fairly well with smart navigation.
ie buttons for skip letter, for page across, etc... and approx 20 songs shown on each page. I sort the collection by artist name.
I can see the attraction of using cover art for albums and then going into that album and picking the song, but I'm too fickle with music for that and I treat my jukebox more like you find in the bar/pool hall.
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Looking Good Mountain 8) I am thinking about doing one of these for the wife.
TTFN :cheers:
Kaytrim
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What kind of components do you need to run one of these things? Do you cram an entire computer in there? Is the screen a touch screen?
It looks great - what are you going to finish it with? Paint?
Keep it up!!! :cheers:
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Thanks for all of the input guys, I am loading the OS right now. Ultimately, my Dad will make the call as to what software is used. Are there any known issues with loading 2-3 programs and switching between them?
Looking Good Mountain 8) I am thinking about doing one of these for the wife.
TTFN :cheers:
Kaytrim
Thanks Kaytrim. i think the size is really going to work well in the setting that it will be in.
What kind of components do you need to run one of these things? Do you cram an entire computer in there? Is the screen a touch screen?
It looks great - what are you going to finish it with? Paint?
Keep it up!!! :cheers:
Where you been? ;D
The face is made from a 1/8" piece of black Plexiglas and the top will be wrapped in black laminate. It will be wrapped in chrome trim. I am also making a base for it that will hold a very thin speaker bar for casual listening. A stereo jack will be installed in the back for hooking it up to his home stereo on the other side of the room. The base will also allow the top section to swivel with magnetic stops at 45 and 90 degrees.
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Thanks for all of the input guys, I am loading the OS right now. Ultimately, my Dad will make the call as to what software is used. Are there any known issues with loading 2-3 programs and switching between them?
The issue I had is how you setup the music files. For example, with Freebox you create a folder which contains all the songs for an album and a jpg for the cover art. Some of the other programs may want the directory structure setup differently.
One thing's for sure - you'll want to make sure all your MP3's are tagged properly and the music has been normalized. For normalizing tracks, I use MP3Gain at http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/ (http://MP3Gain at http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/). It normalizes without compromising quality.
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Thanks leapinlew. I spent every night for a month correctly tagging my mp3s when I did my in wall jukebox, so that part is done. I downloaded mp3gain back then but never got around to doing it. Just one more thing to do in a little over two weeks. :banghead:
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Here's a quick update to show what I got done this weekend.I made the base out of 1/2" MDF and wrapped it in black laminate. As I mentioned before, I installed magnetic stops so that the unit will swivel and stop every 30 degrees. since the juke will also double as a digital picture frame, I wanted them to be able to swivel it around so anyone sitting at the bar can view it. (its a big bar) My mom told me that she thinks it will be placed on one side of the bar so this feature should get used a lot.
90% done with the base. Here you can see the lazy susan swivel and the magnets.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101307;image)
Close up of the hardware.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101309;image)
Some detail shots
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101313;image)
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The Dell LCD mount speakers in position but not yet installed. A 120mm fan will push air into the cabinet. I plan on installing rubber feet under the base to keep it from sliding. These will create about a 1/3' gap all the way around, plenty enough to keep the cool air flowing upward.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101317;image)
The top mounted to the base.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101319;image)
Twisted at 30 degrees.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101321;image)
I have less than 2 weeks to finish. I hope to have all of the cosmetics finished by Friday so I can begin loading up the components. I still need to make the back panel too.
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That is amazing work, its so neat and professional!
The sound bar is a great idea, and so is the fan in the base (though I don't see a hole in the cabinet base yet?). The swivel idea looks great and using magnets is very impressive, but it seems a bit unnecessary on this jukebox and looks a little awkward when its twisted on an angle?
I would have thought the base box would be more 'fixed' to the jukebox, and simply mount 4 tiny castors on the bottom in a circle arrangement so that the WHOLE unit can turn in a circle (but can't roll easily), that way the speakers are facing the 'audience' too?
In any case, this already looks awesome and I can't wait to see the finished product. Well done on everything so far!
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Nice work mountain. I'm anxious to see how the components fit inside.
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Thanks dm...for bursting my bubble! ;) JK
Several factors led to the design being the way it is. There is a leather covered armrest around the bar that would prohibit the unit to swivel if I had done it the way you suggest. It sticks up about 1.5". So, since I had to make some sort of base for it, I decided to throw a set of speakers in there.
Originally the jukebox was only going to have a left and right outputs to be wired to his home stereo. I decided that since this area of the house is generally where my Dad goes to hang out, watch a little TV and have a drink, having speakers in the unit itself would be good for just him to enjoy. When he has people over, he can flip a switch on the back and have it play through the stereo.
I am happy with the way it looks. The only time the unit will be swiveled is when they are viewing pictures when the the slideshow screensaver kicks in and someone wants to show it to someone sitting on the other side of the bar.
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:blowup: (That base just made my head explode!) :applaud:
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Incredible work. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
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Awesome work dude :applaud: My marquee would have made the whole thing worthless ;)
Just one question: will there be cables (AC, Sound to the sound bar) from the base to the jukebox? If yes, how will you make sure the cables aren't twisted too much while turning the jukebox on its base? Are there "stop points" in both directions?
Again: AWESOME!!!
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It has been said before but it needs to be said again. You have some serious skills dude. :cheers:
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mountain,
Where did you get magnets that look like that if you don't mind my asking? Thanks.
Encryptor
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Awesome work dude :applaud: My marquee would have made the whole thing worthless ;)
Just one question: will there be cables (AC, Sound to the sound bar) from the base to the jukebox? If yes, how will you make sure the cables aren't twisted too much while turning the jukebox on its base? Are there "stop points" in both directions?
Again: AWESOME!!!
Luigi,
Worthless? I don't think so. Bender offered to help out as well and we just ran with it. Thank you for the offer to help, it is very appreciated. As far as the base, ther are going to be stops at 90 degrees left and right.
mountain,
Where did you get magnets that look like that if you don't mind my asking? Thanks.
Encryptor
We have a local specialty wood working store here that carries Rockler Hardware. I just happened to notice them sitting there and it hit me. They are expensive though. They are about $20.00 for a set of ten.
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I don't know why but tonight I was really good about taking pictures. I rushed home with two goals in mind. Get the volume knob squared away and make the jig for the marquee which will allow me to cut the Plexiglas panels easily.
I took apart a Griffin Powermate and determined that this is the perfect solution for this juke. When you peel away all of the aluminum it becomes a very versatile little gadget that can me fit just about any where. The first thing I realized is that in order for the volume knob to sit right and not rub the faceplate, I was going to have to build the faceplate out a little.
I took a washer that represented the size I needed and used contact cement to attach it to the Plexiglas. I carefully used a hack saw to rough cut around the washer and the hand sanded it down to the washer. The washer basically was to tell me when to stop sanding. A little heat and the two came apart easily.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101426;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101428;image)
I then had to make a hole for the knobs keyway.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101430;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101432;image)
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Once the spacer was made I used acrylic adhesive to bond it to the faceplate
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101440;image)
There is about a 1/16" gap between the the knob and the faceplate..perfect.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101442;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101444;image)
A view from the back
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101448;image)
I got the template made for the marquee Plexiglas panels too.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101450;image)
:cheers:
I am very excited about the marquee. I will elaborate more on it when the print arrives.
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I don't know why but tonight I was really good about taking pictures.
Lets talk about this... How do you get your pictures to come out so nice? Anytime I use macro mode, it's blurry or dark. Your finger prints are so clear in those pics that I could probably look you up in the criminal database (where I'm sure you have an entry). ;)
I took apart a Griffin Powermate and determined that this is the perfect solution for this juke.
So, about the Griffin Powermate. One common issue is the thing likes to disconnect from the computer, or not be identified on bootup. Unplugging the USB and plugging it back up seems to resolve the issue. I'm suspicious that it might have something to do with the USB extender cable, but I haven't confirmed it. Did they ever fix this issue?
It's looking great. It's cool you have a hard dead line, cause one way or another - we'll get to see this thing completed. :)
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I don't know why but tonight I was really good about taking pictures.
Lets talk about this... How do you get your pictures to come out so nice? Anytime I use macro mode, it's blurry or dark. Your finger prints are so clear in those pics that I could probably look you up in the criminal database (where I'm sure you have an entry). ;)
First of all, that was a long time ago! Sheesh :cheers:
Let's talk :)
I use a Sony DSC-S85 4mp camera that is several years old. This is what I do, hold the camera with both hands and rest at least one of them on something secure. It will give you a shot comparable to using a tripod. Sometimes I hold the shutter button down and if it doesn't seem to focus correctly I move the camera back and forth until it looks right and then take the picture.
I don't know why but tonight I was really good about taking pictures.
I took apart a Griffin Powermate and determined that this is the perfect solution for this juke.
So, about the Griffin Powermate. One common issue is the thing likes to disconnect from the computer, or not be identified on bootup. Unplugging the USB and plugging it back up seems to resolve the issue. I'm suspicious that it might have something to do with the USB extender cable, but I haven't confirmed it. Did they ever fix this issue?
I don't know if there is a fix for it or not. I have heard that it is hit or miss. I plan on putting a switch on the back to disconnect the data bus wires just in case this ever becomes an issue.
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This is going to be a real masterpiece :notworthy:
You do not only have great skills but extraordinary ideas, too :applaud:
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I want a feature on this board to be able to ignore threads started by certain users..... so I don't have to look at their projects and get all depressed at how bad mine suck in comparison.
Beautiful job again Mountain. I can't wait to see how this one finishes out.
:notworthy:
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That swivel base kicks so much freak'n A**!! You work is amazing. I have a buddy running your finger prints from your photos because I'm pretty sure your an android.......not sure how that might prove such a thing though :laugh:
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Looks great mountain. Maybe I'm missing something but how do you go about wrapping the base (or anything for that matter) in vinyl? What do you do about the edges? It looks like you covered all surfaces without any creases or folding/wrapping. Are you using the Happs black pica vinyl that comes on a roll and goes on like a sticker or something sturdier?
EDIT: while I'm at it - where do you get the black plexiglass? Does Home Depot carry something like that or did you have to special order it?
:cheers:
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Looks great mountain. Maybe I'm missing something but how do you go about wrapping the base (or anything for that matter) in vinyl? What do you do about the edges? It looks like you covered all surfaces without any creases or folding/wrapping. Are you using the Happs black pica vinyl that comes on a roll and goes on like a sticker or something sturdier?
EDIT: while I'm at it - where do you get the black plexiglass? Does Home Depot carry something like that or did you have to special order it?
:cheers:
The base is actually wrapped in black laminate.
The black acrylic front was purchased from US Plastics (http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=21314&Page=1). I always buy my acrylic from there because the prices are reasonable and they ship SUPER fast. This last order was placed on a Wednesday at 5:30pm and it was on my doorstep Thursday at 3:00pm. They are located in Ohio too but still, they just seem to be on top of it.
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Looks great mountain. Maybe I'm missing something but how do you go about wrapping the base (or anything for that matter) in vinyl? What do you do about the edges? It looks like you covered all surfaces without any creases or folding/wrapping. Are you using the Happs black pica vinyl that comes on a roll and goes on like a sticker or something sturdier?
EDIT: while I'm at it - where do you get the black plexiglass? Does Home Depot carry something like that or did you have to special order it?
:cheers:
The base is actually wrapped in black laminate.
The black acrylic front was purchased from US Plastics (http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=21314&Page=1). I always buy my acrylic from there because the prices are reasonable and they ship SUPER fast. This last order was placed on a Wednesday at 5:30pm and it was on my doorstep Thursday at 3:00pm. They are located in Ohio too but still, they just seem to be on top of it.
Ahhh... laminate, not vinyl... makes more sense... so, um... where do you get that stuff? ;D
:cheers:
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mountain,
You wouldn't happen to have the Rockler part number for those magnets would you? I looked on their site and can't find them. Thanks.
Encryptor
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Looks great mountain. Maybe I'm missing something but how do you go about wrapping the base (or anything for that matter) in vinyl? What do you do about the edges? It looks like you covered all surfaces without any creases or folding/wrapping. Are you using the Happs black pica vinyl that comes on a roll and goes on like a sticker or something sturdier?
EDIT: while I'm at it - where do you get the black plexiglass? Does Home Depot carry something like that or did you have to special order it?
:cheers:
The base is actually wrapped in black laminate.
The black acrylic front was purchased from US Plastics (http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=21314&Page=1). I always buy my acrylic from there because the prices are reasonable and they ship SUPER fast. This last order was placed on a Wednesday at 5:30pm and it was on my doorstep Thursday at 3:00pm. They are located in Ohio too but still, they just seem to be on top of it.
Ahhh... laminate, not vinyl... makes more sense... so, um... where do you get that stuff? ;D
:cheers:
I found it locally from a distributor. Break out the yellow pages or try googling "laminate + your town"
If all you get are contractors for new countertops, call a few and they should tell you where they get it. This is what I had to do.
mountain,
You wouldn't happen to have the Rockler part number for those magnets would you? I looked on their site and can't find them. Thanks.
Encryptor
Very weird that they are not on their site. There are actually three parts:
Magnet cups - #31668
1/2" x 1/8" Magnets - #30810
Magnet washers - #37474
Let me know if you have any luck. I could possibly swing buy and pick them up for you.
:cheers:
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Very weird that they are not on their site. There are actually three parts:
Magnet cups - #31668
1/2" x 1/8" Magnets - #30810
Magnet washers - #37474
Let me know if you have any luck. I could possibly swing buy and pick them up for you.
:cheers:
Thank you. After looking them up by the part number they were actually there when I looked before. I just didn't realize they were under the title of Rare Earth Magnets. Sorry about that. Did you use the 3/8" size?
Encryptor
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This is gonna be nice. Watching with interest.
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DAMN....5 horrible days without new pictures.....go ahead :)
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DAMN....5 horrible days without new pictures.....go ahead :)
OK, I have a small update for ya ;D
I have spent the last few days doing minor work that is not very exciting as well as configuring the software. I have the juke app up and running and have been going through all of the music getting it ready.
I made a temporary router table to help cut the Plexiglass pieces for the marquee.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101785;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101787;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101789;image)
Bender designed the marquee artwork for me :notworthy: and gave me 4 color options to choose from. I am going to narrow it down to two and let my Dad make the final decision. I will be posting images of the marquee by Bender in the next few days. They ROCK!
I also got the outside of the machine wrapped this afternoon. Filing the laminate perfectly flush with the black Plexiglass front was a bit frightening to say the least.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101791;image)
I am going to be wrapping this up in the next 2-3 days so keep an eye out for some serious picture updates. It needs to be done by Wednesday night.
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I made a ton of progress today. A lot of obstacles are out of the way. The t-molding slot really had me worried because the lack of material in certain spots of the front panel. I used the makeshift router table and carefully cut the slot 1/4" deep all the way around. I also cut the slots in the base but forgot to take pictures of it.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101881;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101883;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101885;image)
The other problem that was driving me crazy was the swivel mechanism and the magnets. After all of the work I did, the problem hit hit me the other day like a ton of brick. When one uses the touchscreen the pressure of the touch makes the top move back and forth. The magnets are installed in a way the prohibits them from actually making contact with the steel discs. I wanted it to be smooth but the downside is that they don't hold very tight this way. It was very sloppy to say the least.
The fix turned out to be very easy. The lazy susan swivel is basically two stamped pieces of steel with a row of bearings all the way around. One is folded over the other with a slight gap to keep the friction down. I dug out my old aviation rivet squeeze and crimped the the two pieces tighter together.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101887;image)
It took forever to get it right because if I crimped it too much the swivel would be ruined. Good thing the tool is adjustable. I had to crimp it a little all the way around and then assemble everything to test. It took 4 attempts to get it right. Now the top stays put when touched but swivels nice and still has noticeable stopping points every 30 degrees.
I also got the power supply rewired this evening. I want the power and audio output jacks on the back side of the base. I didn't want any wires coming out of the top, they need to be stationary. I removed the input jack and spliced the power wire and ran it out a grommet that I installed.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101889;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101891;image)
Here is the back of the base. The Plexiglas piece will hold the two RCA jacks and a 1/8" stereo jack which will be wired in parallel, giving Dad options. There will also be a switch to toggle between internal audio or external audio.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101893;image)
This is the power supply for the speaker. It will go in the base and be hard wired to the A/C input jack.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101895;image)
I hope to get most of this done by tomorrow. I am sure there will be minor things to complete Wednesday and Thursday but the bulk will be done.
:cheers:
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Looking AWESOME!
Is it done?
New pics?
Can you post a pic with the dimensions (ie...H x W x D)?
Encryptor
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Looking AWESOME!
Is it done?
New pics?
Can you post a pic with the dimensions (ie...H x W x D)?
Encryptor
It looks like I need to pull an all-nighter tonight and maybe tomorrow night to get it done.
Not sure when I will be able to update, probably a small one tomorrow night and a few Sunday.
Wish me luck!
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It looks like I need to pull an all-nighter tonight and maybe tomorrow night to get it done.
Not sure when I will be able to update, probably a small one tomorrow night and a few Sunday.
Wish me luck!
Good luck, but more than anything - be careful. Keep your wits about you if your getting tired. You may want to Will me your tools... JUST in case.
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Crossing fingers !!! :)
But your old man sure will be willing to wait a few days more for that beauty you are making for him :applaud:
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Awesome buddy :)
Your dad sure is lucky!!
Cant wait for the finish pics! 8)
Those router tables sure are handy aren't they :)
(By the way im going to get your other job done at work tomorrow :cheers:)
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Is it too early to start the Mamey requests?
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Yesterday was THE day, yes? Pics!? :cheers:
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Yesterday was THE day, yes? Pics!? :cheers:
It's hard to type with no fingers, eh Mountain? ;)
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Yes, yesterday was the big day and I got it done just in time. I had to work all night Friday to get it finished, but it was worth it. Everybody was excited and really liked what I had done with the idea. My Dad was totally surprised and touched with all of the planning and work we had done.
Since I had to skip the updates to get this thing done, I am going to post some shots of the last few days of the build first.
Here is the panel for the back. I used a DPDT slide switch to select between his home stereo or the internal speaker. Slide the switch towards the output jacks for external and toward the middle for internal.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102162;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102164;image)
I made a frame out of 1/4" MDF and wrapped it in grill cloth. This mounts behind the metal speaker grill and hides the speaker.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102166;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102168;image)
I made a box behind the marquee area to keep the light from bleeding out. Since the Powermate is mounted in the same area I had to wire a USB plug to make it easier for when I may have to take it apart.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102170;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102172;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102174;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102176;image)
So, I put out a request a few weeks ago for some help designing a marquee that will fit the odd shape. Bender PM'd me and offered to help. I am still amazed that he was willing to volunteer his time and work with me to get it done in such a short amount of time. I told him a few basic ideas of what I wanted and he ran with it. I had no idea it would look so good. He did a fantastic job.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102178;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102180;image)
A little personal touch.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102182;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102184;image)
I used glazing points to hold the marquee in place. These worked out great and hold the marquee in there very tight.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102186;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102188;image)
Stay tuned, more to come very soon!
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:applaud:
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You do some beautiful work! The craftsmanship is second to none! :notworthy:
Can't wait to see the pics of the finished product.
Encryptor
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You do some beautiful work! The craftsmanship is second to none! :notworthy:
Can't wait to see the pics of the finished product.
Encryptor
Thanks Encryptor! I will get those dimensions to you soon.
Thursday night was long night as I had to wire the base. The base hold the following:
Speaker
Audio/switch/ethernet panel
Audio junction strip
fan
fan speed controller
A/C power inlet panel
speaker power supply
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102190;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102192;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102194;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102196;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102198;image)
Done!
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102200;image)
Friday night I had to finish up the back panel and mount and wire all of the internal components.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102202;image)
The motherboard and hard drive are mounted vertically and centered over the hole in the middle. The 120mm fan blows the cool air up into the unit and blows directly over the Fanless CPU heatsink. It also generated airflow across both sides of the hard drive.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102204;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102206;image)
The power supply needed to vent out the back so I placed some foam tape on the back side so it makes contact with the back plate. There is grill material on the back for it to vent.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102208;image)
Stay tuned, more build pics coming!
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Friday night I was supposed to be at my parents house (3 hr drive away) partying with my family but we had to wait because the jukebox wasn't done yet. I worked from 6pm until 5am to get it finished. :(
Here are some shots of the internal wiring.
This shows how the fan and wiring are mounted. There is enough slack in the wire and it is looped in such a way that lets the top swivel a total of 180 degrees.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102212;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102210;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102214;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102216;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102218;image)
That's it for the build pics. ;D
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Very very nice! :applaud:
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Whew!!!
I can breath now, I 've been holding my breath till I saw that marquee shape line up with that text
around the record lable
The build looks fantastic Mountain! :cheers:
get some sleep buddy
Can't wait to see the finished shots!
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Am I the only one who tried to turn that thing around on the last picture? ;)
Can just repeat what I already said: AWESOME and OUTSTANDING !!! :applaud:
That marquee hits the point!!! Great work Bender!!!
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Such a tease. This thing has so many detailed items that it is hard to take it all in. Beautiful job.
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Whew!!!
I can breath now, I 've been holding my breath till I saw that marquee shape line up with that text
around the record lable
The build looks fantastic Mountain! :cheers:
get some sleep buddy
Can't wait to see the finished shots!
Thanks Bender! You are truly amzing with your kindness and your talent. Everyone loved the marquee and commented on how well it went with the design.
Such a tease. This thing has so many detailed items that it is hard to take it all in. Beautiful job.
Not really, I was just too tired last night to continue.
Finished pictures coming soon.
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Here we go:
A few pretty glossy shots outside where the light is better.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102332;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102334;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102336;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102338;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102340;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102342;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102344;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102346;image)
Sitting in its new home.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102348;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102350;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102352;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102354;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102360;image)
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Absolutely fantastic work. :cheers:
I like how the shape of the juke, mirrors the wall mirrors in the back. Nice. And what a cool sign on the back wall, 'wino crossing' sign. :laugh2:
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Amazing work. I'm blown away. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Hard to describe how good that looks. Is that one of the Ebay ELO Touchscreens?
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Simply beautiful.
I'm jealous. Jealous of your skills, and jealous that your Dad gets this.
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Like was said, amazing work Mountain!
So... in a day or two are you gonna tell us about your next project?? ;D
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Very nice Mountain. :applaud:
Go get some sleep. Cut that one to the wire.
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Totally sick mountain. Easily the best looking jukebox I've seen. You really put it together fast all things considered. :cheers:
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That is one amazing looking Juke. It looks commercial built but better. Very nice Im jealous.
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WOW! Stunning!! Now what was that other thing you were working on?
P
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Holy Moly dude! Absolutely stunning work! You are indeed the man all up in here.
I see that you tapped all the power to a single binding post and then to the switch/port mounted on the back of the unit. Can I ask where one would get such a port? Did you just cannibalize it off the back of the power supply and mount it to the base? I want to have something simliar to that on the back of my bartop that I am currently working on. Thanks for the info!!
RobC
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I was waiting to see the final product and it was beyond worth the wait. I just can't think of words good enough to describe how incredible it turned out. Somehow outstanding, stunning, beautiful just aren't enough. It's damn near breathtaking. What a fantastic job mountain! Again I bow to you! - :notworthy:
Which jukebox program did you go with?
Encryptor
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Thank you guys! I really appreciate the praise. I busted my butt to get this done and consider myself lucky for it to have turned out out this nice. I hate working under pressure and as leapinlew said, I cut this one a bit too close.
My Dad doesn't shed a tear very often but this one caught him off guard. I had sent him the link to this thread this morning and he replied today with a really nice message thanking me once again. There is a part of the message that I think I should post here because it is too cool that even he can see how special a community this is. Below is what he had to say about BYOAC.
"The pictures are great. I went all the way through the forum and was amazed at the detail and amount of work that was done. Sounds like there are some great guys out there too. They seem to all be ready to be helpful giving suggestions and offering loads of encouragement."
Thank you all again for all of the encouragment and kind words. You guys are awesome. :cheers:
I found a few more pictures that I meant to post but forgot since I was in a hurry to them up earlier.
I wanted to show this shot because it pretty much explains why I decided to finish the back the way I did. Wednesday night I was studying the back plate that I had previously cut and I realized that the back of this thing would be seen by everyone sitting at the bar because of the mirrors.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102375;image)
Here is a good shot of the panel made from 1/8" Plexiglas. Again, if it was going to be seen I wanted it to look good.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102377;image)
Another good picture of the back.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102379;image)
A few close ups of the Marquee and volume knob.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102381;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102383;image)
And of course the mandatory beverage for scale :cheers:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102385;image)
One last good shot of it in the bar.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102387;image)
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Awesome finish buddy 8)
Can I adopt you so you can make one for me? ;D
My GF is giving me her old laptop and im not sure whever to make a bartop or juke out of it, your project is making me lean towards the latter :)
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that thing is perfect. I mean perfect.
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mountain,
Which jukebox software program are you using?
Encryptor
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mountain,
Which jukebox software program are you using?
Encryptor
I wondered this too?
The juke looks awsome by the way dude, good job.
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Hard to describe how good that looks. Is that one of the Ebay ELO Touchscreens?
Yes it is. They are a great deal, I bought three of them from this guy so far.
mountain,
Which jukebox software program are you using?
Encryptor
I wondered this too?
The juke looks awsome by the way dude, good job.
Thanks!
I ended up going with a version of Xlobby that Portnoy sent me. It is very stable and easy to use.
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I'd have to say that's the money shot right there!
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102387;image)
Very inspiring project! :applaud:
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Actually, the money shot may come tomorrow. I have the machine with me and will be taking it to work tomorrow where we have a mini photo studio with all of the right equipment for taking product shots.
I brought the machine back with me because I needed to finish loading music and pictures as well as tweak a little further. My Mom was planning on driving over this week anyway so it worked out. At least that is what I told my dad. ;D
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An amazing jukebox. You have set the bar at a new high with your craftsmanship and detail. Great work!
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hey mountain - what are the dimensions of the base? Also, how easy is it to add/remove music? :cheers:
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Hard to describe how good that looks. Is that one of the Ebay ELO Touchscreens?
Yes it is. They are a great deal, I bought three of them from this guy so far.
I got mine in the mail early this week. Now to get the time to build my wife one of these. Beautiful build mountian, I hope that mine is at least half as good.
TTFN :cheers:
Kaytrim
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I've got one on the way as well. I'm hoping to create a touchmaster 7000 (MAME)/Jukebox out of it.
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Here are some dimensions.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102480;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=102482;image)
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Absolutely beautiful -- simply stunning.
Nice job. :applaud:
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Great work Mountain!
I know your dad is proud of you.
Nice bar your dad has too.
Thanks for the idea of using 1/8" MDF for the curved top, I was seriously thinking of building a juke box with a top like that, but was wondering how I was going to get the wood to curve. Now if I can only find 1/8" MDF in my area.
Again, great work, very professional..
:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
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I'd love to see a YouTube video of this up and running!
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The shots in a production studio should be awesome!
I have a couple more questions mountain.
1. Which version of Xlobby do you have?
2. How big a hard drive did you put in it?
3. Did you ever put the switch in for the Griffin disconnect problem or did you find more info on it? I didn't see it in any of the pics.
4. Did you get the Dell LCD speakers from an LCD tv or is that something Dell sells as a stand alone product?
TIA
Encryptor
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I'd love to see a YouTube video of this up and running!
I am going to try to shoot one by the end of the week.
The shots in a production studio should be awesome!
I have a couple more questions mountain.
1. Which version of Xlobby do you have?
2. How big a hard drive did you put in it?
3. Did you ever put the switch in for the Griffin disconnect problem or did you find more info on it? I didn't see it in any of the pics.
4. Did you get the Dell LCD speakers from an LCD tv or is that something Dell sells as a stand alone product?
TIA
Encryptor
Hey Encryptor!
All I can find about the version is "XLOBBY2 2.0" I can send it to you if you like.
The Juke has a 250g HD
I decided only to install the switch if needed. So far I have not had any issues. I did de-solder the CHEAP USB cable that came with it and replaced it with a better quality cable. If the problem is in the cable it shouldn't be an issue now.
The Dell speakers are sold seperately to be mounted on a variety of Dell LCD monitors. Do a search for Dell AS501. They actually sound good considering what they are. For casual listening around the bar, they are perfect.
Hope this helps. Are you planning on building one?
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Thanks for the info mountain. I do plan on building one but I haven't figured out how big or what design I'm going to use yet. I do like your design though. It will be a little while before I start on it. I'm still collecting parts and I have to finish my MAME cab first. That's the problem with this hobby. You start going down one road and then someone builds a beautiful piece like you did and changes your whole line of thinking. ;D
Although it took a bit of searching I managed to find a copy of Xlobby2. According to the site I got it from it is the last version before it went commercial. If I have any issues getting it to work I'll let you know. If that happens I'd appreciate you sending the version you have to me. Thanks for the offer and the information.
Encryptor
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The griffin powermate disconnect problem seemed to be related to the drivers, a couple of my users brought them to use with freebox and they resolved the issue by using some earlier drivers.
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I'd love to see a YouTube video of this up and running!
Here you go :cheers:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwzIThnEsQ8[/youtube]
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Been browsing BYOAC for about a year but I haven't been logging in as had little to say.
That changed today.
What an incredible piece of work! I'm blown away by the end result and the quality of the workmanship. It's been great to read how you've done it, especially the care that's went into the finish. Hell - even the wiring looks perfect!
Impressed - Inspired - A little sad because I would never be able to do that! Well done.
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Wow...
Amazing job. And that software just adds to the amazing workmanship of the jukebox itself. Great job. :notworthy:
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My contempt for you deepens...
Good job dude. I think the most amazing aspect is how quickly it finished. I'm sure you stunk, stubbly and the yard probably needs mowed. ;)
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mountain - what is the black rubber tubing called that you put around the area where two exposed wires meet to insulate and make it neat? Like in this picture:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=101889;image)
I notice you use it a lot - I typically use electrical tape but I like your solution better... Is it readily available? :cheers:
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javeryh
That is called shrink tube. You can buy it at Radio Shack and most auto parts stores. You put it over the wires and after you solder them you simply slide it over the connection and use a heat gun or a lighter and it shrinks conforming to tightly to whatever it's over. It's very handy and easy to use.
Encryptor
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mountain,
Are you running the default skin that comes with Xlobby? I've downloaded several and I'm just starting to play with them.
Encryptor
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mountain,
Are you running the default skin that comes with Xlobby? I've downloaded several and I'm just starting to play with them.
Encryptor
I use a skin that Portnoy sent me. Send me your email address and I can send it to you.
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mountain,
I got the skin. Thank you very much for all the info and help.
Encryptor
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Let me just say WOW...
I've been lurking around here for a few months. I've been wanting to do a jukebox and an arcade cabinet. I had it all planned out, just received all the juke parts I was going to use, got my touchscreen off ebay, had plans drawn up, and then I see this. INCREDIBLE. Now my idea just looks BAD in comparison!
I LOVE this thing, Mountain, great work, thanks for raising the bar. I am going to take a few pointers from this. While I'm going to stick to my original plan (I love yours but don't have the skills to replicate it, or a full bar to put it on), I am definitely going to borrow a few ideas.
That's what I love about this forum! Always some new, incredibly well-documented ideas to borrow from and expand upon. I'll be sure and post my progress when I get started, but I'm a little less excited to after seeing this!
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Mountain,
That is one beautiful Juke you made there. It makes me want to re-do mine into one just like that.
Could you by chance email me a copy of your version of Xlobby with skin?
I am actually installing a touchscreen in my father's theater room this weekend and I would love to use that Xlobby skin and code.
PM sent w/ email address
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SWEET!! I want one now. :cheers:
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What he didn't tell you in this thread is that he built this while completely blind folded. Just 'cause he wanted more of a challenge.
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What he didn't tell you in this thread is that he built this while completely blind folded. Just 'cause he wanted more of a challenge.
hehe, this reply reminded me of the Happy Days episode when The Fonz put his motorcycle back together blindfolded.
I finally have one of the studio shots back. The guy who took the pictures has been swamped at work but managed to get this one cleaned up enough to post. It is not my favorite shot but it still looks nice.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=103157;image)
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What he didn't tell you in this thread is that he built this while completely blind folded. Just 'cause he wanted more of a challenge.
hehe, this reply reminded me of the Happy Days episode when The Fonz put his motorcycle back together blindfolded.
I finally have one of the studio shots back. The guy who took the pictures has been swamped at work but managed to get this one cleaned up enough to post. It is not my favorite shot but it still looks nice.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=103157;image)
Gawd mountain, your skills just never cease to amaze me. You should feel very proud of the work you've just done.
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Hi Mountain, That bartop jukebox is extremely impressive! I love it! :notworthy: Like others have said it looks commercial, like you had ordered it from a company that has been making them for years and really knows what their doing! :D I'm going to be working on a similar project with a touchscreen, and I may barrow some of your idea's. I really like the shape and the bezzled black acrylic face. For mine, It's going to be for games but as a side feature I'd like it to be a jukebox as well. I checked out Xlobby and it looks like a great program. Is this the skin that your using? http://xlobby.help.googlepages.com/skins (http://xlobby.help.googlepages.com/skins) the 2nd one down, bong2?
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Hi Mountain, That bartop jukebox is extremely impressive! I love it! :notworthy: Like others have said it looks commercial, like you had ordered it from a company that has been making them for years and really knows what their doing! :D I'm going to be working on a similar project with a touchscreen, and I may barrow some of your idea's. I really like the shape and the bezzled black acrylic face. For mine, It's going to be for games but as a side feature I'd like it to be a jukebox as well. I checked out Xlobby and it looks like a great program. Is this the skin that your using? http://xlobby.help.googlepages.com/skins (http://xlobby.help.googlepages.com/skins) the 2nd one down, bong2?
I actually have both skins loaded and switched between them in the beginning to see what the difference was. They look identical with a few exceptions. Bong2 writes the Artist - Album name directly over the album art. I found this to be very annoying. Bong1 does not label the album art. Also, when you search, it immediately displays the alphabet, not really a key board. Once you select a letter it goes to the first artist with that letter. If you hit advanced search, it lets you search by artist, genre, etc. Bong1 defaults to the advanced search screen. Those are the only two differences I could see.
I would put them both in your skins directory and switch between them until you decide what you like.
Good luck!
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Mountian,
Thanks to your juke I got the go ahead to build one for my wife. 8) I just have to finish a few things around the house first. :( I want her to get involved with the design process so she is happy with the final result. I may want to pick your brain from time to time to work my way around the nuances of the software.
TTFN
Kaytrim
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Cool! I can't wait to see what you come up with.
The setup is pretty simple. The only part I still have to figure out is the net radio, I just haven't had the time. PM me when you are ready.
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Alright mountain... I'm going to give it a go. I have what is probably the dumbest question ever - the first of many - and I'm hoping you (or someone else) can help.
After cutting the front and back panels (with all the holes), the spacers and bottom panel how did you line everything up to screw it together? It is critical that the front and back panels are exactly opposite each other and I just can't tell if I'm being precise. Any tips?
:cheers:
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Alright mountain... I'm going to give it a go. I have what is probably the dumbest question ever - the first of many - and I'm hoping you (or someone else) can help.
After cutting the front and back panels (with all the holes), the spacers and bottom panel how did you line everything up to screw it together? It is critical that the front and back panels are exactly opposite each other and I just can't tell if I'm being precise. Any tips?
:cheers:
Is this the jukebox even a wife can love?
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If you are using a table saw. just make sure that you cut your botttom piece the same time you are cutting your front and back pieces (width wise). Then all you have to do is line up the bottom corners and everything will be aligned.
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Alright mountain... I'm going to give it a go. I have what is probably the dumbest question ever - the first of many - and I'm hoping you (or someone else) can help.
After cutting the front and back panels (with all the holes), the spacers and bottom panel how did you line everything up to screw it together? It is critical that the front and back panels are exactly opposite each other and I just can't tell if I'm being precise. Any tips?
:cheers:
Is this the jukebox even a wife can love?
This is the jukebox the wife doesn't know about yet. ;D
If you are using a table saw. just make sure that you cut your botttom piece the same time you are cutting your front and back pieces (width wise). Then all you have to do is line up the bottom corners and everything will be aligned.
I have everything cut (and the panels are accurate) but now I'm trying to figure out how to actually put them together/line them up. Did you clamp and then screw? I'm probably over-thinking it...
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Are you concerned about the bent piece lining up with the front and back? If so, don't. Overcut this piece and use your flush bit to trim the excess.
I hope this answers your question.
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I guess I'm concerned about the front and back panels being exactly opposite each other (I haven't started thinking about the curved piece yet). I tried clamping stuff together but I wasn't getting the feeling that everything was aligned properly...
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WAAAAAAYYYYYYY OVERDUE.... Sorry, I've been helluva busy:
http://www.mameworld.net/massive/NEWMAMEY/sound.htm
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Congrats buddy, this soooo deserved one :applaud: :cheers: :applaud:
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Wow, thank you Zakk and everyone else! I am honored. :cheers:
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About time someone besides Knievel wins one of these in this category. :applaud: Congrats :cheers:
Things should start calming down soon in my neck of the woods. Then I can get started on mine. Still working out the plans though.
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Wow, very nice looking Jukebox.
Where or what is that metal mesh looking stuff called? I've been thinking about using it and I've seen it on other objects, but haven't found it in a store.
Just in case you think Im nuts I'm talking about the holes on the outside of your Juke in front and back. ;)
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Wow, very nice looking Jukebox.
Where or what is that metal mesh looking stuff called? I've been thinking about using it and I've seen it on other objects, but haven't found it in a store.
Just in case you think Im nuts I'm talking about the holes on the outside of your Juke in front and back. ;)
Thanks kizer!
I always call it grill material but McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com/) calls it perforated metal. Follow the link and search for perforated metal. You can then drill it down to exactly what size and hole spacing you need.
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Thank you very much. From the looks of it, its not the cheapest material. :cry:
At least I have a source now.
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My jealousy at your skills is immeasurable :) I love the skin you are using on xLobby. Can you post it?
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Only one word.....Incredible!!!!!
Outstanding work, man!!!
And of course, the glossy-shaped finished touch than you made, very professional!!!
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My jealousy at your skills is immeasurable :) I love the skin you are using on xLobby. Can you post it?
It's way to big to post here. PM me your email and I will send it to you.
Only one word.....Incredible!!!!!
Outstanding work, man!!!
And of course, the glossy-shaped finished touch than you made, very professional!!!
Thank you! I was a little worried about it scratching to easily but it appears to be holding up just fine.
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I keep looking at this and my jaw drops every time.. very nice work man.. I still cant believe it haha.
Neil
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mountain
do you have any more of the production photos you could post?
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Doh! I forgot about those. I will contact the guy who took them and see if he will send them to me.
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LOVE the jukebox. One of the nicest examples I have ever seen. You have exquisite craftsmanship. So now the questions begs.
I guess you will be getting back to work on the Fantasy now?
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Doh! I forgot about those. I will contact the guy who took them and see if he will send them to me.
Any luck on getting more pics?
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MAN absolutely AMAZING!!! I won't be using your exact plans but I am definitely BOOKMARKING this thread for future reference as there are a ton of awesome tips on construction. I was planning on getting a book just to help out and have in the library I am building for myself and friends but now I see definetly I need it for all the tips there must be in there to help with building up all the stuff I am planning in the future.
and I can see a lot of threads on the projects I am going to be working on :D
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This is a pretty incredible jukebox, surpassing anything I thought imaginable and to have completed it in such a short timeframe... incredible!
Congrats on the Mamey, it's deserved!
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Amazing little unit, nice work. :)
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Amazing little unit, nice work. :)
First time you got bumped in a while! :)
Feeling like topping this little jem?
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Hey friend, this its project was absolutely incredible you this of congratulations for the beautiful carried through work. My congratulations really very good. :applaud: :applaud: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Would you be able to document any of the wiring? I have a touch screen and a system, now looking for some speakers before I finish off my plans. Between this one and javeryh's version (Mine also would be a one piece) I think I can get the box built, but I'm not sure of all the electrical work that would all have to be done, and you were in speed building mode during that time.
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The wireing should be rather straight foward. The touch screen uses a VGA cable and a USB cable. Extend the power button to an arcade button. Plug everything into a smart strip and everything will turn on and off with the computer. Connect your volume control to the speakers and you should be good to go. This is a much simpler setup then an arcade machine.
TTFN
Kaytrim
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The wireing should be rather straight foward. The touch screen uses a VGA cable and a USB cable. Extend the power button to an arcade button. Plug everything into a smart strip and everything will turn on and off with the computer. Connect your volume control to the speakers and you should be good to go. This is a much simpler setup then an arcade machine.
TTFN
Kaytrim
I don't know Kaytrim... The wiring is the part that scares me the most about this project too. I'm not sure there is room for a SmartStrip inside but even if there was, I still have no idea how to wire up the red and white audio outs (for connecting to a home theater) and the switch. Putting some USB and ethernet ports on the back to add music and connect to the internet might be tough too. I'm also a little scared to hack a power supply and wire everything to one plug if the SmartStrip doesn't fit. I will be asking a lot of questions when I get to this part... hopefully it's easier than it seems in my head. :cheers:
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You really dont have to use a power strip, just tie the wires together and solder, or use wire nuts, or a terminal strip. You could use a small relay like the one I used on Stevies Jukebox, to switch monitor and speakers on.
As far as audio outs and USB ports, Im sure you can get those already wired, just plug and go.
I dont like the idea of hacking the power supply either, simply because when the power supply fails it might be a pain to put in a new one.
On Stevies jukebox, I exhausted the fan output of the power supply through a cutout in the back of the cab. Then I used a low profile 90 degree 120 volt cord to plug into the power supply outside the cab.
But Ive got a different idea for my next juke.
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@javeryh
Contrary to what everyone is saying you should not be afraid of electricity unless it is going to keep you away entirely. if you are afraid and work with it anyway you stand a much better chance of breaking something or yourself. you just need to have a healthy respect for it. confidence when not overly so will stop you from making mistakes because fear clouds the mind. once you have done the job you will realize it is not as hard as you thought and the next one will be cake. just don't get to over confident when you have done some of this work. as that makes one careless and brings on accidents too. and of course ask all the questions you have to as the only stupid question will be not the one you were afraid to ask but the one you did not ask and the answer would have saved you trouble or problems. :D but seriously I learn more than I ever could by reading the questions you guys have asked and answered as many times I might not have ever thought to even ask until it was to late of course.
oh and the same applies to how to hook things up once your head is in it I bet it will be a breeze. you have to have one decent head about you to be doing as well as you are even with mountain doing it first as I know there are tons of people that could not do what you have done thus far even if mountain was holding their hand with each step. It looks absolutely excellent
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No new pics? :(
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No new pics? :(
You want to see it in a swimsuit or something? ;) It's a completed project.
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:laugh2:
He is talking about the pictures I had taken of the juke. I have the raw un-doctored shots that aren't that impressive. I will try to get a few up by the end of the weekend.
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No new pics? :(
I will try to get a few up by the end of the weekend.
Here are the shots I said i would post a while back. Unfortunately they have not been adjusted.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=109481;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=109483;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=109485;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51525.0;attach=109487;image)
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HOLY C**P! :notworthy:
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:notworthy: :cheers: :dizzy: :applaud:
Need I say more? Yes? Ok. I think many produce great work here but only select members produce something that looks so "professional". You're obviously one of them, well done.
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mountain,
Thanks for posting the new pics. It is truly a work of art. The craftsmanship and exquisite attention to detail can be seen even better in these quality pictures. Truly an outstanding piece of work. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Encryptor
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Wow. Kudos on the fantastic workmanship! That looks sleek.
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The other problem that was driving me crazy was the swivel mechanism and the magnets. After all of the work I did, the problem hit hit me the other day like a ton of brick. When one uses the touchscreen the pressure of the touch makes the top move back and forth. The magnets are installed in a way the prohibits them from actually making contact with the steel discs. I wanted it to be smooth but the downside is that they don't hold very tight this way. It was very sloppy to say the least.
The fix turned out to be very easy. The lazy susan swivel is basically two stamped pieces of steel with a row of bearings all the way around. One is folded over the other with a slight gap to keep the friction down. I dug out my old aviation rivet squeeze and crimped the the two pieces tighter together.
It took forever to get it right because if I crimped it too much the swivel would be ruined. Good thing the tool is adjustable. I had to crimp it a little all the way around and then assemble everything to test. It took 4 attempts to get it right. Now the top stays put when touched but swivels nice and still has noticeable stopping points every 30 degrees.
If you get a chance can you go into more detail on how you set up the magnets and fixed the lazy susan so that they remain in a fixed position when pressing against the touch screen.
I am looking at building a custom bar top project with a touch screen and wanted it to be able to swivel around but be able to lock into position. I love the idea of magnets and the lazy susan but was not sure how you finally got it to work.
Is the combination of magnets and crimping the lazy susan to tighten up the rotation the trick?
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I just had to stop and comment on this.. That is the most amazing looking touch jukebox I've ever seen! I am blown away! I would love to have one of these!
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Bump for easy finding.
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Did you finally switch the software over?
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Bump for easy finding.
You do realize you can bookmark threads using the forum's software, right? :D
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Forgot about that when I did this.
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Thats the coolest jukebox i've seen yet :applaud: were did you get the usb volume knob?
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Thats the coolest jukebox i've seen yet :applaud: were did you get the usb volume knob?
Do you know it's a Griffin Powermate? If not, you should read the posts.
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate
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Ok thanks. Mountian i've looked every were for 1/8" mdf board know one seems to think it exists were exactly did you get it :banghead:
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Ok thanks. Mountian i've looked every were for 1/8" mdf board know one seems to think it exists were exactly did you get it :banghead:
I found it locally at a specialty woodworking store called Woodwerks (http://www.woodwerks.com/)
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Ok thanks. Mountian i've looked every were for 1/8" mdf board know one seems to think it exists were exactly did you get it :banghead:
I used what they call "1/8" hardboard" at Home Depot and it worked just fine. CHECK IT OUT (http://homemadejukebox.blogspot.com/2008/07/curved-panel.html).
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Thats what I used too JH..
I put two layers of "skins" on my juke, but I think one would have been enough.
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Ok thanks. Mountian i've looked every were for 1/8" mdf board know one seems to think it exists were exactly did you get it :banghead:
I used what they call "1/8" hardboard" at Home Depot and it worked just fine. CHECK IT OUT (http://homemadejukebox.blogspot.com/2008/07/curved-panel.html).
Yup, I'll be using the same stuff. Should have the frame skinned this weekend.
Explorerman
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Wow is this turning into a mountain jukebox mania it must feel great to make a design that people have to have :notworthy: and to show us step by step is even better.It's great to build a jukebox and to already have an idea what it's going to look like.Anyways hard board it is, thanks for the help!!
one more question did you use wood glue or contact for the skins........thanks agian mountian/javeryh
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Im going to post mind when its done i think everyone knows how it was made. :banghead: except for the right glue ;D
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Very nice looking juke Mountain! You did a great job. I have been watching this thread for some time now. And, the others you have inspired with your design look great as well.
Did you get your mounting bracket, power pushbutton switch, and USB plug from an old PC case or did you purchase them from somewhere? I have searched all over the forum/internet and either I am not searching for the right things or they just aren't out there to be found (at least by me hahaha).
I'm getting ready to start a jukebox project(my own design) and I want to find the items that I need to order so that they are on their way while I work.
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I may have missed it due to the sheer number of posts here, but what was the total project cost? I'm looking to build a similar shape now I know it can be done but I know it won't be to anywhere near the standard of this. I'm thinking of doing a much simpler design with no swivel base and simply internal speakers.
How much did you stretch to for this bad boy?
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I may have missed it due to the sheer number of posts here, but what was the total project cost? I'm looking to build a similar shape now I know it can be done but I know it won't be to anywhere near the standard of this. I'm thinking of doing a much simpler design with no swivel base and simply internal speakers.
How much did you stretch to for this bad boy?
If memory serves me correct, the electronics ran about $450-$550. The laminate, wood, plexi. and misc. Hardware was another $150-$300.
I have kicked around the idea of producing "Mountain Jukebox" kits for sale. This would be for people who would enjoy one of these but were not willing to invest the time and labor into figuring out all of the cuts on their own. These would be made by me and could range from a simple flat pack of wood all the way to a working unit.
What do you guys think, would they sell? :dunno
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What do you guys think, would they sell? :dunno
Yes. Assembly would have to be worked out beforehand with guides to line everything up but I think people would by a kit to get started. Would have saved me a lot of time!
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Man i sure could have used that kit before i started it's not as easy as it seems atleast not for me it would have save me alot of time and :soapbox: how much would you charge for a kit?
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Man i sure could have used that kit before i started it's not as easy as it seems atleast not for me it would have save me alot of time and :soapbox: how much would you charge for a kit?
I am working on this now. The trick will be to make it affordable enough for someone to justify the time it would save while making it worth my while. I think in the beginning the best way to approach it would be to make a kit available that had the front and back templates, 2 pieces of 1/8" MDF (cut to size) a bank front piece for the monitor (with the marquee area cut out), pre-cut marquee Plexiglas, the bottom, and internal mounts for the HD, Mini ITX Mitherboard etc. + instructions.
I think a completed shell with finish options would be wanted as well but the pricing needs to be worked out on both.
Any ideas??
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Pricing in this instance should take into consideration all the time that is saved by using a kit. The materials probably aren't that expensive ($50 or less for the MDF and plexiglass) but I know from personal experience that working 3 hours a night for 6 weeks straight is barely enough time to make the shell. I guess it depends on your skill set in the shop but people ordering the kits would be on the little to no experience side of things. There are plenty of times when I would have gladly handed out $200+ just to be done with it out of frustration. ;D
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Just having the front plexiglass facing cut out and polished is worth 200 hundred to me ;D
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Could you not work something out McCoy to do them using the machine? Might bring the cost down a bit on materials etc and save on a lot of manpower.
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Alot of cost would be shipping, you would have to be local.but its worth trying just estimate a cost for the complete job and see.
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Could you not work something out McCoy to do them using the machine? Might bring the cost down a bit on materials etc and save on a lot of manpower.
Yes, the kits would have to be CNC cut, at least the MDF. I am working on how all of that will unfold right now.
Alot of cost would be shipping, you would have to be local.but its worth trying just estimate a cost for the complete job and see.
A kit would not weigh that much; no need to keep it local.
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A kit would not weigh that much; no need to keep it local.
Ping! That's the magic right there... You are more than welcome to advertise these on my site and forum dude if you go ahead. I am sure some folks will be interested.
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After making one of these things (and yes, its still not quite done) a good spot to start building one of these would be the front plexi, the front and back panel and the MDF for the front and back frame. Add in a support structure that can go in the middle (like McCoy has on his), but with a place for a dowel to hold the front to the back. In fact, after looking at what McCoy did with his CNC, I think that would be a great place to start. Hell, just having the front panel and front plexi would save people 10's of hours.
The only downside to making a kit would be having the front panel 'routered' for the monitor mounting. that to me was the hardest part, yet not all screens would mount the same, I assume.
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Maybe that would be part of the kit that you would work out with mountain.kit includes monitor,man i would have got the kit in a second and for anyone wanting to biuld one its by far not easy all the tools and the right bits on and on its been two weeks and i still have alot to go. :hissy:
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Well, after wiping off the drool from my keyboard (didn't realize I actually had my mouth open at its awesomeness)... all I can say is *great job!*
And yes...please let us know as soon as you have the specifics worked out with your DIY Kits for this - could most certainly use one of these at home, in my office, and even at the church!
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Hey Mountain, I would pay $300 for a complete kit. I have a 15" ELO in the closet waiting for a jukebox.
Also, where did you get that power button on the back? Does it light up?
In one pick it looks like at first you used just a regular arcade button, but in the finished pics it is a shiny metal start button with power logo. I bought one of those bulgin vandal resitant buttons that light up, but it does not have power logo on it.
Ok thanks and keep us posted on the kit situation,
Deefish
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Hey Mountain, I would pay $300 for a complete kit. I have a 15" ELO in the closet waiting for a jukebox.
Also, where did you get that power button on the back? Does it light up?
In one pick it looks like at first you used just a regular arcade button, but in the finished pics it is a shiny metal start button with power logo. I bought one of those bulgin vandal resitant buttons that light up, but it does not have power logo on it.
Ok thanks and keep us posted on the kit situation,
Deefish
I used a switch similar to an arcade button, only smaller, and swapped it out once I got my hands on the silver one. The silver switch is a Bulgin vandal proof switch that has the logo engraved on it. Pongo may be able to make a power logo sticker for yours.
The Mountain Jukebox kits are being designed now. I am having a hard time deciding how far to take it. The original was designed as a one of a kind without any plans to produce more which is making it quite difficult. I will probably do a basic template kit for the people who want to do a lot of the work themselves. There will be a complete kit with everything needed including the assembled frame and plexi (based on the ELO1545) I am also going to offer one-off builds to people who would rather just pay to have one built. Control panels are planned as well.
Any input from those who may be interested would be great. I plan on making an announcement in the next 7-10 days. :cheers:
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I used a switch similar to an arcade button, only smaller, and swapped it out once I got my hands on the silver one. The silver switch is a Bulgin vandal proof switch that has the logo engraved on it. Pongo may be able to make a power logo sticker for yours.
Ahh, dang, I just bought one. Who sells them engraved like that?
Ok, I will watch this thread for updates on the kits.
Thanks Mountain,
Deefish
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Mountain,
Could you give me some pointers on flash trimmimg the laminate? I end up scartching or "shaving" a laminate or a plexi every time I use the flash trim bit (the part that is not being trimmed). I ended up tilting a router on my router table about 5-7 degrees. This eleminates the above problem but the trimmed part is not 100% flush, I could feel it with my finger nails. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Mountain,
Could you give me some pointers on flash trimmimg the laminate? I end up scartching or "shaving" a laminate or a plexi every time I use the flash trim bit (the part that is not being trimmed). I ended up tilting a router on my router table about 5-7 degrees. This eleminates the above problem but the trimmed part is not 100% flush, I could feel it with my finger nails. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks.
Use a file to get it flush.
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kinda defeats the purpose having to hand-file it after using a router. also, how you avoid scratching the other surface which is at 90 degree angle to the piece being filed?
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kinda defeats the purpose having to hand-file it after using a router. also, how you avoid scratching the other surface which is at 90 degree angle to the piece being filed?
I don't think it defeats the purpose. I always expect a little bit of post prep work on every cut I make, whether it is done on a router, table saw, jig saw, etc. I once visited a custom cabinet shop and watched how they did it. The the first thing the guy did after laying down the router was reach for his file. I imagine that I spent 1-2 total hours filing the laminate. Plus, it gives the cut edge a very nice sheen for a nice finished look.
One trick I have found is to put a layer of masking tape on the surface perpendicular to the laminate that is being cut. It helps space out the cutting edge, just a hair. Another thing to do is adjust the cutting edge to the thickness of the laminate. There is no need for a 1" cutting area when you are cutting is .040" thick.
Hope this helps.
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I think the your last point is basically my biggest mistake. I looked at the flush trim bit last night and there is small gap between the bottom of a bearing and the point where the cutting edge starts. In theory I should be able to adjust the bit so that it only cuts the laminate surface that is being trimmed.
Now when filing the edge I assume you end up with the edge that is not square because the file has to be at an angle to avoid scratching the adjacent surface?
Basically you get this __/ instead of this _| ???
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Basically you get this __/ instead of this _| ???
Correct. We're talking about maybe 5 degrees, you can't even see it. Get a very sharp metal file and take long smoth strokes. :cheers:
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thank you, will give it a shot tonight
great tip, makes a huge difference
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Excellent work sir! :notworthy: Can you tell me where you got the grill material from? I'd like to use that on the one I'm building now.
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Excellent work sir! :notworthy: Can you tell me where you got the grill material from? I'd like to use that on the one I'm building now.
I should give you a hard time for not reading his thread. So I will.
You comment on his thread like you read it and then you ask a question that he answered already.
Here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=79817.msg865027#msg865027
Damn kids! GET OFF CHEFFO'S LAWN!
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(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/avatars/user/avatar_9517.bmp) + (http://www.beercollections.com/Breweries/Texas/Images/IM431318.gif) = :police:
;D
Thanks sparky, thanks Lewis!
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speaking of perf metal, what is the best way to cut it?
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speaking of perf metal, what is the best way to cut it?
I used a pair of straight sheet metal cutters/shears for mine, also called snips . They look like a beefy pair of scissors. It worked great for me. The was a little curl and some bending on the edges, but a couple of hits with a hammer along the edges on a workbench top flattened the edges out again.
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speaking of perf metal, what is the best way to cut it?
I don't have access to metal working tools, so I improvise. If you are real picky, like me, make two identical shapes out of 1/2" MDF the same shape you want the grill material to be. Sandwich the material between the two and clamp. Use a fine tooth jig saw blade and cut the material close to the edge. Finish it off with a file before removing the clamps. This prevents the material from bending while you cut. It takes longer, but it is worth it.
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thanks guys
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LOL! I got scolded. :) Thanks for the help leapinlew I honestly looked through every page and just missed it. Must have been all the pretty pictures! Mountain you wouldn't happen to remember the specs of the metal that you ordered? There's a bunch of different options to get and I'd like to get the one you ordered. Again excellent work! :notworthy:
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LOL! I got scolded. :) Thanks for the help leapinlew I honestly looked through every page and just missed it. Must have been all the pretty pictures! Mountain you wouldn't happen to remember the specs of the metal that you ordered? There's a bunch of different options to get and I'd like to get the one you ordered. Again excellent work! :notworthy:
Well, unfortunately, I ordered that stuff years ago for a different project and can't remember the specs. Since the juke is at my Dad's I am unable to measure it. I think that it is something like 1/8" holes in a staggered pattern.
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Mountain,
I wonder if I could make a request for a wiring schematic. My set up will be very similar to yours and the wiring is definitely not one of my strong points.
Thanks in advance,
Explorerman
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Mountain - did you ever anounce your kit for these? Im interested.....
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Mountain - did you ever anounce your kit for these? Im interested.....
Yes, I am still planning on selling kits. I am just sorting out what will be included in each one. I am leaning towards having a basic frame kit with the front and rear panels almost blank. This will help get around the various monitor/speaker combos people will be using. The marquee area would be cut out and the two acrylic panels will be supplied as well (machined to size of course). The back panel would be machined to include an access panel. I will also be offering the front Plexi panel if needed.
I also plan to build one-off jukes based on the equipment being used. Sorting out all of the possibilities has proven to be more difficult than the actual build! Any input from those interested will be greatly appreciated!
Here are some preview shots of the models I have been working on. The bottom picture is for the top bend, Instead of using two 1/8" MDF layers, I plan on machining one perforated 1/4" piece. This will simplify the build...ALOT.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=123915;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=123917;image)
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Geez, I thought you were gearing up for production mode here ::)
How are you planning on producing these? Are you gonna stockpile 'em, or are you gonna do like Joe does with his 4x4 kits and make them per order?
And are you planning on making para-turnkey kits with touchscreen, CPU, hdw, and speakers included?
I'm just thinking that there's only so many monitors that'll fit in there, and if you had a basic speaker grille, you could mount whatever speakers behind it - maybe some kind of universal user-drilled mounting plate. You could throw in whatever front the user requests, or even a blank.
...can't resist, organizing solid model and production assemblies is my job. ;D
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Geez, I thought you were gearing up for production mode here ::)
How are you planning on producing these? Are you gonna stockpile 'em, or are you gonna do like Joe does with his 4x4 kits and make them per order?
And are you planning on making para-turnkey kits with touchscreen, CPU, hdw, and speakers included?
I'm just thinking that there's only so many monitors that'll fit in there, and if you had a basic speaker grille, you could mount whatever speakers behind it - maybe some kind of universal user-drilled mounting plate. You could throw in whatever front the user requests, or even a blank.
Ha! Funny you should mention this. These are the main issues I have been trying to tackle. I think I am going to build them to suit the users needs, per order. The shell will be identical though and I will try to have 2-3 on hand at all times. I think this is where most users will find value in the kit. The bend is the hardest part.
The design has grown an inch in every direction to make the assembly much easier and to accommodate other monitors. There is no shortage on these monitors though. As soon as I free up some time I plan on finishing up the plans, build a few prototypes, and start offering these. In the meantime, here are a few pictures some test cuts I made a few weeks ago. The J shapes are meant to be mounted to the inside of the front and back panel. The 1/4" MDF with the relief cuts for bending will be mounted to these.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=124592;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=124594;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=124596;image)
...can't resist, organizing solid model and production assemblies is my job. ;D
How about flying out to Ohio and helping me get these things sorted out then!?? ;D
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How about flying out to Ohio and helping me get these things sorted out then!?? ;D
I wish. I've never been to that part of the US - North of Alabama, between Illinois and Pennsylvania. I hear it's beautiful. Plus, Drew Carey tells me that "Cleveland Rocks!"
Hey, I've got a new product logo for ya!
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Looking good there Mountain. I also like the logo system01. Now you need one that says 'ELO Inside' :laugh2:
Michael
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How about flying out to Ohio and helping me get these things sorted out then!?? ;D
I wish. I've never been to that part of the US - North of Alabama, between Illinois and Pennsylvania. I hear it's beautiful. Plus, Drew Carey tells me that "Cleveland Rocks!"
Hey, I've got a new product logo for ya!
:laugh2:
:laugh2: That is too cool! :cheers:
Looking good there Mountain. I also like the logo system01. Now you need one that says 'ELO Inside' :laugh2:
Michael
or "27,000 songs inside" ;)
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Sweet you will offer these in a kit!!!!
I want a couple of them sign me up. They would make a great Xmas and Wedding gift.
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Hows this project going Mountain?
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Hows this project going Mountain?
It is moving at a snails pace right now. :(
My kids are very active in sports which has cut into the time spent out in the garage. The business in general is moving forward though. I am currently finishing up an 8' x 10' building in the back of the house to free up some space in the garage. The CNC machine has a 6' x 5' footprint that really crowded my little 20' x 20' garage.
I expect to be taking orders for the kits by the end of the month. Stay tuned! :cheers:
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Hows this project going Mountain?
It is moving at a snails pace right now. :(
My kids are very active in sports which has cut into the time spent out in the garage. The business in general is moving forward though. I am currently finishing up an 8' x 10' building in the back of the house to free up some space in the garage. The CNC machine has a 6' x 5' footprint that really crowded my little 20' x 20' garage.
I expect to be taking orders for the kits by the end of the month. Stay tuned! :cheers:
LOL - my entire house has a 25' x 25' footprint! Can't wait to see the new workshop! :cheers:
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Hi Mountain, First of all, Awsome job. You have inspired me to make one of these beauties. I Do have one question, well many but one will do. what did you use to bond the perspex to the MDF, and did you have to scuff the perpex ?
Cheers,
Kyle.
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Hi Mountain, First of all, Awsome job. You have inspired me to make one of these beauties. I Do have one question, well many but one will do. what did you use to bond the perspex to the MDF, and did you have to scuff the perpex ?
Cheers,
Kyle.
Thanks Kyle. I covered the process in this post. (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=79817.msg835155#msg835155)
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Hi again, sorry for sounding dumb, i probably didnt phrase that right, i mean to ask what type of glue/bonding, did you use to stick the Plexiglass to the front MDF panel before you mounted it to the main unit. i am at the stage where im ready to put the plexiglass on the front but want to do it right..
PS, finding it hard here is OZ to get some local laminate, were you considering an alternative prior to settling on laminate.
Thanks,
Kyle.
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Incredible build!
I am interested in more information on the marquee. Is it a decal with some sort of illumination/back lighting? I would love to do something similar but I'm unclear on that part of the build. Any additional information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
TIA!
Never mind. I just took a little more time and reread the entire thread - yeah, it was THAT good. I missed the original post about the marquee construction. Newbie mistake. There is so much information here and I am like a kid in a candy store... Slow down - take a deep breath. ::)
--Ed
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Wow ! I should just pawn all my tools, your craftsmanship is amazing, I hope your Dad liked that gift. What a great post, I am motivated by what you have done and hope to someday be as talanted, thanks for sharing....excellent work!
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Hows this project going Mountain?
It is moving at a snails pace right now. :(
My kids are very active in sports which has cut into the time spent out in the garage. The business in general is moving forward though. I am currently finishing up an 8' x 10' building in the back of the house to free up some space in the garage. The CNC machine has a 6' x 5' footprint that really crowded my little 20' x 20' garage.
I expect to be taking orders for the kits by the end of the month. Stay tuned! :cheers:
Any progress to report on the new workspace?
TTFN :cheers:
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Wow ! I should just pawn all my tools, your craftsmanship is amazing, I hope your Dad liked that gift. What a great post, I am motivated by what you have done and hope to someday be as talanted, thanks for sharing....excellent work!
Thank you! He loved the Juke and uses it a lot.
Kaytrim,
The work area is coming along nicely. The garage has a lot more usable space now. All I need now is time. It has been a very busy summer for me. I suppose I should have known, I guess I was being too optimistic. I have worked out a lot of issues with my CNC machine that would have caused a lot of problems in the long run. I have my first paying gig cutting out some exterior signs for a local doctors office. Once they are done I can switch back to Jukebox mode.
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Great Post here! I have been looking for a decent design and this is it. I am interested in purchasing a kit, possibly 3-5 of them. Can you scale these kits to different sizes? Like a floor model for instance?
Hope you come up with a price soon.
Thanks.
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Great Post here! I have been looking for a decent design and this is it. I am interested in purchasing a kit, possibly 3-5 of them. Can you scale these kits to different sizes? Like a floor model for instance?
Hope you come up with a price soon.
Thanks.
Thanks azpaul,
I am glad you asked because this weekend I am finishing up a project that side tracked me a little and I plan to wrap up the design. Your question about the size options is interesting. I am going to offer the project in a few different stages of completion as well as making each kit unique to the buyer. I am willing to help out and work with people in order make the project scalable. Some people want it all and will pay for it, some want just the trickier parts made and want to tinker a bit.
I uploaded this video to YouTube the other day showing some prototype parts being cut for fit tests. Be patient :D it gets better at about the midway point.
:cheers:
Mountain Jukebox prototype parts CNC machining (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43z1engLmAM#)
Oh, and for theCNC fans, this video is fun to watch. This is the side job I am delivering next week.
My 4X4 Hybrid CNC Machine cutting a sign (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POEvd5ff58w#)
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Sick! That thing must be loads of fun to play with. How tough is it to program? Are there pre-made programs floating around on the internet? I can imagine making kids toys and lots of other stuff just because.
After about a year off I'm finally getting the itch to finish my juke - it will be a few weeks at least before I do anything (maybe even November the way my schedule is shaping up) but I'm excited to cross the finish line.
:cheers:
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LOL at 4m29s I thought for sure the mouse would get sucked up by the built-in vacuum. :laugh2:
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SO cool!..... I Want, I want!!!
What did you use for the plastic skirt around the vacuum base?
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Dude, you have a CNC ? Sorry can't watch the video yet, (I'm at work), but cannot wait to see. Did you build the CNC? or buy? In my million and one things I want to do before I kick the bucket, building a cnc is on the list, so I'm curious. If you bought it, what was the cost, I love the jukebox, and even though it's completed, I continue to monitor this post.
thanks for all you do, you reply to each and every question, thats great.
Look forward to seeing, watching and learning more.. :notworthy:
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I have gone through this thread a couple of times and either I am blind or the marquee construction process Bender did is not here. Is the by chance another thread on how Bender got that neon look? How is is back lit etc?? That marquee came out fantastic too!
I like the marquee look so much I would like to incorporate it in another project, non jukebox of course.
Thanks!
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Hey Mountain,
That is a nice video of the cnc machine.. Is that yours or are you borrowing someone else's?
Patience is hard to handle when you can almost touch this! Do you think you will have kits available By November? How many kits can you crank out in a day?
Thanks!
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I didn't do the marquee construction, just helped a bit with the Art (Based on Mountain's Ideas)
It's backlit like a regular marquee
I just modified a neon font in Photoshop to give it some glow
Mountain can give you some more detail on how he constructed and lit the marquee area
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Wow, look at all these replies. I posted those videos and immediately jumped in the car and headed out of town for most of the weekend.
@ Jav - Yes, there are some freeware projects out there that help out. It is all designed on the computer and then a program generates the "G-code" which is what tells the machine controller how to cut it.
Also, I hear what you are saying about crossing the finish line. :-[ I will PM you with some info on your I/O panel. Nice to see you are ready to finish it up.
@ Bender - The vacuum skirting is an industrial product made from thick clear plastic. It is similar to the long vertical strips used to keep in the cold in those big walk in freezers.
@ Shortbus - Yes, the CNC machine is built entirely from scratch using plans purchased here (http://www.joescnc.com/). It was a big challenge that I had wanted to do for a long time. If you build one, be prepared to pull your hair out at time. There are some very steep learning curves (at least for me) with CNC technology and the software required to make it all work.
@ azpaul - PM sent.
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If I may say so, that is simply amazing! I didn't realize you had built your CNC machine from scratch! Actually the thought of building your own CNC machine never even crossed my mind, I had no idea that was possible. Did you happen do document your CNC build, do you have any build picks?? Just asking, you knew someone was going to ask eventually anyway ;D
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If I may say so, that is simply amazing! I didn't realize you had built your CNC machine from scratch! Actually the thought of building your own CNC machine never even crossed my mind, I had no idea that was possible. Did you happen do document your CNC build, do you have any build picks?? Just asking, you knew someone was going to ask eventually anyway ;D
Plenty of information here: http://www.cnczone.com/ (http://www.cnczone.com/) I have toyed with the idea of building my own CNC but the time, materials and effort to learn how to make it all work is more than I want to deal with right now.
Michael
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If I may say so, that is simply amazing! I didn't realize you had built your CNC machine from scratch! Actually the thought of building your own CNC machine never even crossed my mind, I had no idea that was possible. Did you happen do document your CNC build, do you have any build picks?? Just asking, you knew someone was going to ask eventually anyway ;D
Thanks orion, yeah, I documented it with pictures. I even thought about posting a streamlined build thread over in the woodworking section a while ago but wasn't sure if it was appropriate :dunno
Plenty of information here: http://www.cnczone.com/ (http://www.cnczone.com/) I have toyed with the idea of building my own CNC but the time, materials and effort to learn how to make it all work is more than I want to deal with right now.
Michael
Plenty of info indeed. That is where I found out about my design. That has to be the largest forum I have ever seen. Spend 5 minutes trying to navigate through it and you will know what I mean.
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Thanks orion, yeah, I documented it with pictures. I even thought about posting a streamlined build thread over in the woodworking section a while ago but wasn't sure if it was appropriate :dunno
I think it's VERY appropriate. I am especially interested in where you found your materials. I have been toying with building a CNC machine (even ordered the motors/controller) but I am not sure about the threaded rod. (I want my table to be 4'x8') You CNC build looks as professional/nice as your Jukebox.
Congrats!
--Ed
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As always, thanks for the reply. If Mountain had trouble, then I'm :censored: ed''''''' LOL, I like making signs but don't like the routing part, one little mistake and it shows up. I like painting them though, and I make some good extra $ selling them, so this has been a wish of mine for a while, a new or used one cost about as much as a used car to a new car, so thats out, if I can build one slowly for under a grand, it'd be worth it for me.....thanks for the info. How much did yours cost total? forgive me if you mentioned and I missed it.
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I've gotta chime in (read:ramble, sorry if I interrupt, mountain). I'm building the same machine as mountain, I'm just way behind him. I'm not tooting my horn here, I just want to throw in a second opinion. Even though mine's not running yet, these things are nice. They are well designed and planned. Visit the link above (or check youtube) and you'll get some examples. Even though some have rough spots, I don't think anyone that has finished a machine has regretted it. It's a nice piece of equipment.
The appropriateness is based on the fact that it's a pay-for forum. There is a price to pay up front for the plans and for forum access. This seems steep at first, but once you start working on it you soon forget about it. The uncertainty of posting a build thread comes from how much you can post without giving away the design.
The plans and forum include a very complete bill of materials, as well as a lot of members' input on where to get materials or alternative methods of doing things. There are also a lot of successful mods that you can incorporate beyond the original plans. There are users worldwide, and many have figured out ways to procure hard-to-find parts or avoid exorbitant shipping costs.
The cost is variable. It depends on where you live, where you work, how resourceful you are, friends in the business, what mat'ls you're going to use, etc. My guess is plan on ~USD$2500. I've seen way cheaper and much more expensive. Although I really don't see you going below $1500-$1800 unless you already work in an automation industry or have a lot of these parts laying around. About half the cost is in the mechanical and half in the electrical/electronic. This does not include whatever PC or software you want to use.
Yes, there are a couple people that have successfully built 4x8 machines.
So, if you want to take the plunge, I highly suggest it (and I'm not even cutting yet!). I would compare the complexity to an arcade machine, maybe slightly more. On the flip side, building this makes arcades seem so much simpler. ;D
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Thank You System01. I appreciate the input. I've been craving one of these for about 5 years, and know it would be challenging as well as expensive, but the coolness factor of having one of these is priceless, the possibilities are endless.
I've been starting to read the free forums and in an information gathering state, which, if it's anything like building an arcade cab, is a never-ending process, which I don't mind, it's how I fill the gaps of free time, it's great.
Best of luck with your project, bet you can't wait to fire it up and get creating........
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Mountain Jukebox Kits shipping soon!
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=132794;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=132796;image)
I am happy to announce that the jukebox kits are 100% designed and some will be ready to ship once the prototype parts have been fully tested and documented. I am looking to see how much interest there may be. There will be two versions of the design available, one that rotates and one that is stationary. There will be 3 versions, or levels, of each kit to choose from depending on what the end user may need based on their skill level and budget.
Here are the models that will be available.
SLV1 - Stationary Model Level 1 - $99.00
SLV2 - Stationary Model Level 2 - $299.00
SLV3 - Stationary Model Level 3 - TBD
RLV1 - Rotating Model Level 1 - $149.00
RLV2 - Rotating Model Level 2 - $349.00
RLV3 - Rotating Model Level 3 - TBD
The first available kits will be the base models, SLV1 and RLV1. These kits are meant for those who want the basic Mountain Jukebox design elements, but would rather do a lot of the labor themselves, opening the door for modifications and alternative speaker/monitor solutions. No monitor or speaker cutting is included. The rear panel is left blank, other than the marquee shape for venting.
The SLV2 and RLV2 will come with all of the raw materials, unassembled, to make the Mountain Jukebox. Everything is included except the T-Molding. The top, sides, and speaker base (RLV2 only) will be wrapped in vinyl laminate. The Plexiglas face is cut and glued to the front panels. Polishing is not included but will be available at an additional charge. Plans for being able to specify different color combinations are being worked out as well. Who wants a blue faced Mountain Juke? How about a Yellow face/black body for those Steeler fans?? Picking your T-molding will be an easy way to make it your own. The SLV2 and RLV2 will be available soon afterward once I have secured pricing for the additional parts needed. I am still sourcing some of the components determine costs on the the L3 models.
All kit orders will receive a digital template for designing their marquee. Plans for offering a marquee service are in the works. Each kit will come with a color printed instruction manual with detailed step by step instructions.
Example of an RLV2 kit.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=132802;image)
Sample taken from the assembly instructions.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=132798;image)
Please reply here or send me PM with any questions. Once I am ready to take orders, I will start a thread over in the BST area with more details.
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looking good mountain!!
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So I take it my skin is going to be included in the V3's? :) I'm going to have to show my brother and sister in laws this as some of them are already asking me to build them a jukebox after seeing mine this weekend (which I know, I still haven't documented). I don't know how much they are willing to spend but one of my sister in laws was absolutely drooling over the thing. If they really are as serious as they seem I'm going to point them in this direction. Heck I might even get one for myself eventually, just because I like your design so much. They look really good Mountain... tempting... tempting...
Edit: This design just screams for the ability to play some touchscreen games, which is possible with Xlobby ya know..... someone just needs to find some free time..... hummmmmmm.......
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:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
Very impressive! Like, you might stand to make a lot of money, type of impressive. :cheers:
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I'd take one tomorrow!...if I knew you could ship to South Africa ???
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Mountain, that is a great little jukebox. Fantastic design. It must be great to have the skill to be able to make something as good as that.
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I know from experience, that having/starting up a side business along with a normal job, is very tough, hang in there Mountain, hopefully you can retire soon, from all the bags of cash your gonna make selling this extremely fine project kit.
'Bona Fortuno' to you....
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Well, thank you everybody. The kits have taken longer than expected mainly because the scope of the project is much larger than I first expected. I knew I wanted to provide a well designed kit that was very simple to assemble for most buyers. I was overwhelmed by all of the work that needed done and kept finding better things to do. :-[ A few months ago BYOAC member system01 approached me with an offer to document the jukebox kit instructions for me. To be honest, I had not even thought about that part of the project. I kicked it around a bit and decided to use his services. As proven by the renderings in my last post, his work is amazing. he produced the exploded view drawings that I posted earlier. He has been an incredible asset to this project and has pointed out several fixes and improvements along the way.
Once we hammer out the final details, I will be taking orders over in BST. Lead time for the kits will be 1-3 weeks. More details will be available once they are officially available.
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Hi Mountain how are you?
First I just want to say that your Jukebox design is nothing short of unbelievable!!! :notworthy:
I just acquired a complete touchscreen from a good friend and your jukebox build inspired me to build a bar top jukebox and I was wondering if it would be ok if I incorporate some of your design ideas into my jukebox?
Thanks,
Shawn
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The kits are now available for those who may be interested.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=98274.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=98274.0)
Please PM me or reply to the post above with any questions.
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I took apart a Griffin Powermate and determined that this is the perfect solution for this juke.
So, about the Griffin Powermate. One common issue is the thing likes to disconnect from the computer, or not be identified on bootup. Unplugging the USB and plugging it back up seems to resolve the issue. I'm suspicious that it might have something to do with the USB extender cable, but I haven't confirmed it. Did they ever fix this issue?
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I don't know if there is a fix for it or not. I have heard that it is hit or miss. I plan on putting a switch on the back to disconnect the data bus wires just in case this ever becomes an issue.
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Did the powermate ever end up causing you issues?
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I didn't do the marquee construction, just helped a bit with the Art (Based on Mountain's Ideas)
It's backlit like a regular marquee
I just modified a neon font in Photoshop to give it some glow
Mountain can give you some more detail on how he constructed and lit the marquee area
hi I would just like to ask what font it is and how you modified it? or if there is any chance of getting this modified font please ?
it looks awesome
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I haven't seen this thread before, and I must say that I'm impressed.
This build will most certainly act as inspiration for my future projects.
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I have a question regarding the backlighting used for the Marquee. It looks like some kind of LED strip? Any details on that? Did you enclose the marquee area to difuse the light?
Cheers
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Used nova matrix
Works fine on a poster board cut into the arch
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=83&products_id=307 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=83&products_id=307)
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Does anyone know where I can find a Link building service?
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Is mountain still doing these kits? The forum won't let me pm him??
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afaik he is still making them. You need a couple more posts before you can PM or post in BST.
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Yes, I still sell these. I will send you a PM
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Hey Encryptor!
All I can find about the version is "XLOBBY2 2.0" I can send it to you if you like.
The Juke has a 250g HD
I decided only to install the switch if needed. So far I have not had any issues. I did de-solder the CHEAP USB cable that came with it and replaced it with a better quality cable. If the problem is in the cable it shouldn't be an issue now.
The Dell speakers are sold seperately to be mounted on a variety of Dell LCD monitors. Do a search for Dell AS501. They actually sound good considering what they are. For casual listening around the bar, they are perfect.
Hope this helps. Are you planning on building one?
Hi Mountain. Is there a chance you can tell me where I can download the "XLOBBY2 2.0", I just cant find any legit versions. I like the way it looks on your video and I would really like to test it out and see if I want to build one of these.
thanks