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Main => Monitor/Video Forum => Topic started by: Banacek on September 26, 2006, 12:35:05 am

Title: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on September 26, 2006, 12:35:05 am
I installed the drivers, and then installed the Tri-Sync util. The monitor is getting an image fine, but the color is way off. What's the best way to correct the color? I'm sorry, but I've never owned a arcade monitor before so I'm kind of new to this :)
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Thenasty on September 26, 2006, 12:39:42 am
maybe you just need to degause the monitor. Sometimes you get wrong colors cause the way how the monitor is setup (magnetic field). Hope thats all it is...
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on September 26, 2006, 12:51:34 am
maybe you just need to degause the monitor. Sometimes you get wrong colors cause the way how the monitor is setup (magnetic field). Hope thats all it is...

Nah, that didn't change anything. Here's a pic (if it helps):

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6269/img0647qg2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The color is off. Am I supposed to adjust anything initially, or is automatic? The monitor is new. Man I hope it's not the monitor...
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on September 26, 2006, 01:11:57 am
Facing the monitor east has made a big difference, but I'm still not sure about the color. Compared to the pics in the Retroblast review, the colors just don't look right to me. Hmm...
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on September 26, 2006, 01:33:51 am
For comparison:

My Monitor:
(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6609/screenkc8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Normal Picture:
(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4695/screenws9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Apparently I have no green. Awesome.
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: StephenH on September 26, 2006, 03:39:24 am
I would check the following:

1) Just for curiosity, I would check to see if you have a bad VGA cable by trying a different cable.

2) If you have the ability to swap connections somehow, swap the color pins, for example green with red.  This will tell you if the problem is in the monitor or what is sending it.

3) If Green is dead, I would recommend contacting Betson and see if they would exchange it for a working one.

Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: grantspain on September 26, 2006, 05:37:15 am
thats a good bet on the vga cable,i had the same fault on an arcade piece which turned out to be exactly that
also the convergence is out-if its a digital chassis then there should be an adjustment for that on the osd advanced menu
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on September 26, 2006, 11:00:48 am
Since I just bought it, I'm going to contact Betson to do an exchange. The VGA cable isn't swappable, so I can't try a new one. Thanks for the help, I guess I just lucked out with this one...
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on September 28, 2006, 06:19:19 pm
For the record, got a new Betson 27'' today and it works great! Must of been a fluke with the other one...
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: wildfire123 on September 28, 2006, 07:25:29 pm
is your thing connect to a j-pac? think you can show a pic of your jamma connector? thanks
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Silver on September 29, 2006, 07:12:51 am
He has an ArcadeVGA....

Could you post some comparision pics of the same game running at different resolutions? I have not seen and ArcadeVGA working on these large Multi-sync (15Khz-SVGA) monitors before)..
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on September 29, 2006, 10:33:56 am
He has an ArcadeVGA....

Could you post some comparision pics of the same game running at different resolutions? I have not seen and ArcadeVGA working on these large Multi-sync (15Khz-SVGA) monitors before)..


Sure, as soon as I get the software all set up. If only I didn't have work and school...  :hissy:
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Silver on October 06, 2006, 04:37:13 pm
Sure, as soon as I get the software all set up. If only I didn't have work and school...  :hissy:

Heh, I find there is never enough time for this kind of project. I just realised that I bought my IPAC over 3 years ago, and have still not built my cab. Argh.
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on October 08, 2006, 11:57:34 pm
Sure, as soon as I get the software all set up. If only I didn't have work and school...  :hissy:

Heh, I find there is never enough time for this kind of project. I just realised that I bought my IPAC over 3 years ago, and have still not built my cab. Argh.

Hey, I tried using the MAME Resolution Tool this weekend so I could see it in action, but the tool seems to be picking resolutions that are way off. Once I get this figured out I will take pics, but I have midterms this week so it won't be til the weekend :(
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: AMDman13 on October 09, 2006, 11:43:51 am
Banacek

I have this monitor as well. Let us know if when playing games at 15khz you get the rolling over the hill affect. Especially noticeable on side scrolling platform games. I know I do :(
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Silver on October 09, 2006, 02:47:39 pm
if when playing games at 15khz you get the rolling over the hill affect. Especially noticeable on side scrolling platform games. I know I do :(

Hey, could you explain a bit more about "rolling over the hill"? I take it you don't mean vertical rolling...?
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on October 10, 2006, 11:50:29 pm
Banacek

I have this monitor as well. Let us know if when playing games at 15khz you get the rolling over the hill affect. Especially noticeable on side scrolling platform games. I know I do :(

I'll have to check it out. How do I change to 15khz? I didn't see it in the Mame resolution tool.
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Silver on October 11, 2006, 06:23:11 am
Most of the modes the ArcadeVGA supports are at 15Khz - once the drivers are installed anyway, I think (I don't have one).

They won't be listed as 15Khz, but resolutions such as 288x240 @ 60Hz are 15Khz resolutions. 640x480 @ 60Hz (The lowest typically supported by windows normally) is 31Khz - the lowest supported by most PC monitors.
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Banacek on October 11, 2006, 01:33:32 pm
Most of the modes the ArcadeVGA supports are at 15Khz - once the drivers are installed anyway, I think (I don't have one).

They won't be listed as 15Khz, but resolutions such as 288x240 @ 60Hz are 15Khz resolutions. 640x480 @ 60Hz (The lowest typically supported by windows normally) is 31Khz - the lowest supported by most PC monitors.


Ok thanks. I'll play with it this weekend...
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: AMDman13 on October 12, 2006, 12:02:58 pm
The rolling over is best explained as the graphics get squished at the sides of the screen. You will notice it right away when playing games like Ghouls-N-Ghosts, Xmen, Shinobi basically any platform side scroller.
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Silver on October 12, 2006, 12:10:41 pm
If the image is 'stable' ie the whole screen is not moving up or down or left and right, but lots of the image is compressed into the edges, I would suggest altering the monitor controls when in that mode.

Try reducing the width of the image.
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: Silver on October 30, 2006, 04:46:22 pm
*bump* - any chance of some pics?
Title: Re: Just installed a Betson Multisync and ArcadeVGA...
Post by: squirrellydw on November 29, 2006, 10:41:19 am
I would also like to see some pics.  I plan on using the same setup.  How much did you pay for the monitor if you don't mind me asking?