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Title: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on February 26, 2010, 12:33:38 pm
I have been lurking around here for a while now, an finally i got my project under way.... heres how it went down...

Started to cut 2 pieces of MDF..:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab16.jpg)

Found the drawing and begun to draw the side of the cab..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab15.jpg)

For the curved corners i used a ...Passer, the Danish for it, donīt know the english word...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab14.jpg)

Cut of the top with a circular saw
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab13.jpg)

And woila! one side finished...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab12.jpg)

Placed the finished side at the bottom and took the last piece of MDF and placed it on top, and used a router for the cut:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab11.jpg)

From the bottom
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab10.jpg)

Yes, two finished sides.
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab9.jpg)

Routed the trench for the T-Mold
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab8.jpg)

Made some lists for the cab assembly
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab7.jpg)

Assembling, under the lists i used glue for better support, and nailed the whole shabang together from the inside
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab6.jpg)

Finished routing the speaker holes..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab5.jpg)

Final assembling
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab4.jpg)

Mounting Bezel supporting lists
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab3.jpg)

And, finally, finished
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab2.jpg)

And with Marquee and Bezel
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab1.jpg)

Modded a TV for monitor use..
First was to disassemble the TV. 20"
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc//gngcab212.jpg)

Marked up on a piece of 22mm plywood (for strength!)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab211.jpg)

Frame assembled
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab210.jpg)

TV installed
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab29.jpg)

Waiting to go in the cab!
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab28.jpg)

Must admit, it very easy to work on a cab when you have a table like this:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab27.jpg)

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab26.jpg)

Whooops! - to fast with the listīs that holdīs the back door, so had to cut some of it away...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab25.jpg)

TV markup...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab24.jpg)

from the other side..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab23.jpg)

And yes! - Fits like a glove!
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngcab22.jpg)

almost finished painting..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/painted.jpg)

and FINALLY, finished soldering the edge connector, and hooked it up to the PCB.
Also, thereīs some noice on the picture, but i havenīt connected the Video GND yet...

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngtv4.jpg)

Is there a way to ajust the picture on the screen??
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngtv3.jpg)

Edge connector...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngtv2.jpg)

Again, picture of the picture off center.... :'( :'( :'(
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gngtv1.jpg)

Luckily it was fairly easy for the picture adjustments..

TV Chassis number, which i googled and found the service manual.
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/tv33.jpg)

the picture on the monitor after the adjustments
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/tvperfect.jpg)

So, now the only thing stopping the project to get finished is the damn CP!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Kman-Sweden on February 26, 2010, 12:41:58 pm
Bloody hell, Muerto! That's awesome!

The Millenium Falcon sized yellow monster is somekind of table saw, right?
And then DeWalt router? My good... You have it all.

Oh and the cabb looks killer too.  ;D
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 26, 2010, 12:42:49 pm
 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Very nice!
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: mwong168 on February 26, 2010, 01:27:41 pm
Wow, some really nice scratch builds being posted up today.  First Bubble Bobble and this Ghost and Goblins one.  Excellent work guys, keep it up.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: emphatic on February 26, 2010, 01:30:01 pm
Awesome!  :applaud:

That TV looks great btw. Very nice picture.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Epyx on February 26, 2010, 01:35:57 pm
Fantastic scratch build of one of my favourite games!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: BurgerKingDiamond on February 26, 2010, 02:14:35 pm
Sweet. Ghosts and Goblins is a HELLISH game! So hard it's not even funny. I managed to beat it once for the NES. Has anyone had the problem trying to play it in MAME where it doesn't let you add credits and continue after a game over?

And BTW, this might be the most amazing bit of video game playing ever. No death run of GnG for the NES in 22 minutes. If you've played this game you know how unbelievable this is.

No-death Ghosts N Goblins for NES in 22:56 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLTQRJXzwP0#)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: shrunkenmaster on February 26, 2010, 02:20:57 pm
Has anyone had the problem trying to play it in MAME where it doesn't let you add credits and continue after a game over?


Only problem I've had playing this in MAME is me being ducking useless at it. I love the game but no matter how much I play, things don't improve. That NES video makes me feel like  :banghead:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 26, 2010, 02:34:52 pm
Has anyone had the problem trying to play it in MAME where it doesn't let you add credits and continue after a game over?

Certain versions in MAME have issues. One doesn't allow me to insert a credit at all. Try a different version.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on February 26, 2010, 04:45:48 pm
Thanks to all for the feedback :)

@Kman-Sweden
the yellow monster is a molding machine LINK (http://www.maskinkorekort.dk/Indhold/kehler/kehlerflspind_gen.htm) and was not used in this build..., and allethe other machines are for free use at my work, so it makes it much easyer!

Please, if any of you know where i can find a CP for this game (populated/unpopulated/in bad condition/in whatever condition) please let me know.. atm, thatīs what holding this from being finished...
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: saleem on February 26, 2010, 05:36:58 pm
why not ask in the for sale/wanted thread?

its worth a shot.
 :)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: IG-88 on February 26, 2010, 06:57:07 pm
Have you tried on the KLOV forums yet?


Please, if any of you know where i can find a CP for this game (populated/unpopulated/in bad condition/in whatever condition) please let me know.. atm, thatīs what holding this from being finished...
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: bigpete405 on February 26, 2010, 08:45:28 pm
Nice job. Really clean work. :cheers:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: garnerb350 on February 27, 2010, 01:10:04 am
unbelievable... :applaud:


As for playing GNG...I love the game, BUT I CANT GET PAST THAT DAMN RED DEVIL!!!! :banghead:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on February 27, 2010, 02:44:42 am
thanks again guys.

I have just wrote in the Buy/Sell/Trade..

- and i have had a thread asking the same question on KLOV for a week now, without any luck :cry:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Koolbrez67 on February 27, 2010, 03:30:28 am
WOW I am in love with this build. Great work.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: dekar24k on February 27, 2010, 08:02:52 am
Really, really great work!  :applaud:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: saleem on February 27, 2010, 08:56:36 am
thanks again guys.

I have just wrote in the Buy/Sell/Trade..

- and i have had a thread asking the same question on KLOV for a week now, without any luck :cry:

so what other cp's are identical or similar to ghost and goblins?
 :)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on February 27, 2010, 09:00:56 am
i donīt know, but a CP in the same shape would do fine!
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Grasshopper on February 27, 2010, 09:17:08 am
Nice job. This is one of my favourite games of all time.

IMHO the mid to late eighties is the golden era of video games. Games from that time were still simple enough to retain the charm of the earliest games but sufficiently complex to provide a lot of replay value.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: saleem on February 27, 2010, 10:22:52 am
i donīt know, but a CP in the same shape would do fine!

a guy did a bubble bobble cab,it uses the same if not a similar cp,i am sure this is a taito cab with the metal cp?
 :)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Funnel on February 27, 2010, 05:52:31 pm
Wow that monitor support looks awesome! Dude you have mad skills.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on February 28, 2010, 10:40:49 am
Got the cab home today..... horray!
I made a temporary CP, so i can have some fun while i search for one.... and still need to mount joy stick and buttons... ill do that tomorrow!

(http://muerto.x10hosting.com/images/arc/gngworks3.jpg)

applying the NOS side art, and i must say, it makes a huge difference when it was on!
(http://muerto.x10hosting.com/images/arc/gngworks2.jpg)

Up and running.... :shock:
(http://muerto.x10hosting.com/images/arc/gngworks1.jpg)

Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: slasherman on February 28, 2010, 11:04:32 am
Nice job, do you have the original joystick, if so what kind of joystick is it?
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on February 28, 2010, 12:04:04 pm
nope, no joystick, no CP  :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Kman-Sweden on February 28, 2010, 02:07:38 pm
 :applaud:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: emphatic on February 28, 2010, 02:44:47 pm
Is that a plastic bezel around the monitor behind the artwork? Looks awesome btw.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on February 28, 2010, 02:47:57 pm
yes, prevents you from looking into the cab.... got it on ebay..

(http://i6.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/78/3d/3cdd_1_b.JPG)

link here (http://cgi.ebay.com/PLASTIC-MONITOR-BEZEL-FOR-ARCADE-GAMES-FITS-19-20_W0QQitemZ400082923992QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d26ccf1d8)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: EwJ on March 01, 2010, 04:09:43 am
Awesome build!  :applaud:

Nice attention to accuracy on the layout (btw, passer=compass).  Are you working from original cabinet dimensions? (and if so, can you share them?)
The paint job looks really smooth - did you use any special equipment or process?

This is, by far, my favourite arcade game.  I spent many hours and quarters on it back around '87 and is one of the few I 'completed'.
I hope to one day do a scratch build too.(and have it come out half as nice).

Here's hoping you'll find a control panel soon.  :cheers:

Don't know if this will be of any use, but these (http://www.quarterarcade.com/Game.aspx/8491) guys appear to have a repro cp overlay.
edit: add url
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 01, 2010, 05:18:22 am
Thanks!

The paint was rolled on, and the paint was oil based gloss 40.

The drawing for the cab can be found here (http://muerto.x10hosting.com/images/arc/gngcabdetail.png)

-EDIT-
And i have the CPO, but thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: EwJ on March 01, 2010, 05:43:51 am
Outstanding finish using a roller  :applaud:
Thanks a million for the drawing!

Are you hooking up a coin door?
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 01, 2010, 05:47:06 am
yes, thereīs a coin door in the mail somewhere between the US and Denmark...  :)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: ammitz on March 01, 2010, 07:47:49 am
Hi

What a nice and very fast build you have. Amazing

I'm wondering where abouts in Denmark, I'm from Århus my self.

Christian
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 04, 2010, 06:46:54 am
Got joystick and buttons hooked up yesterday, and it played flawless.
later yesterday i hooked up the speakers, and the sound worked 100%
but now, thereīs no sound, is started to make some scratch noises and then disappearing all together, so now thereīs only a faint "sssssss" in the speakers.... any idea why?? - have i fried a chip? (checked my soldering, and thereīs nothing wrong with it...)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: emphatic on March 04, 2010, 08:53:00 am
Have you checked your +5V so it's not too high? What kind of power supply are you using?
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 04, 2010, 09:17:07 am
Hey.
Checked the +5 and it was 5.32, so adjusted it to 5V:

(http://muerto.x10hosting.com/images/arc/gngnosound2.jpg)

Power supply:
(http://muerto.x10hosting.com/images/arc/gngnosound1.jpg)

These are the speakers iīm using, i figured they where ok..??
(http://muerto.x10hosting.com/images/arc/gngnosound3.jpg)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: ammitz on March 04, 2010, 10:55:35 am
have you tried to connect them to another audio device to see if the speakers work?
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 04, 2010, 11:01:55 am
yes, and they work, when i hooked them up to the GnG pcb yesterday they worked...
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: emphatic on March 04, 2010, 11:05:34 am
Hopefully, I'm wrong, but I think you might have busted the amp on your PCB. It all depends on how you've hooked those speakers up though.

Here's some examples on how to do it along with an example of how to not do it. The amp wants to get at least 4 ohms apparently.

(http://cc.arkadtorget.se/speakers.jpg)

This is from a Swedish site, so if you can read that there's even more info here: http://cc.arkadtorget.se/speakers.html (http://cc.arkadtorget.se/speakers.html)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 04, 2010, 11:14:13 am
i hooked them up like the drawing in the middle.. - PARALLEL
i see if i can find the schematics of the PCB, and find that amp...
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: emphatic on March 04, 2010, 11:17:29 am
The important thing is that you get 4 ohms.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 04, 2010, 11:47:22 am
ok, just measured the Ohms, and itīs between 3.8 and 3.9.... - but ill have my brother look at it tomorrow (his an electrician)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Si the Sigh on March 15, 2010, 06:20:42 am
Hi,

I'm currently working on a GNG themed cab, and have bezel, marquee & side art, but am stuck for CP overlay. Are you planning on putting one on? If so where did you find it? If not, what are you going to do with the CP on this cab?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: opt2not on March 15, 2010, 12:49:47 pm
Nice looking cabinet!  So simple and clean looking, very pro. You're lucky you have a job that has a woodworking area for you to use!
GnG is a great game, but the ending is ridiculously hard!

If you don't mind me asking, what prompted you to make a reproduction build, instead of finding a GnG cabinet and restoring it?
Availability? New versus Old?

I've been considering a Robotron repro-build myself, since I've been having hard time tracking down a cabinet to restore. But the only thing stopping me is the lack of a real woodworking space, and also being able to find original Wico 4" joysticks for the original feel...
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: emphatic on March 15, 2010, 01:54:09 pm
If you have the know-how, repros are very cool. I would do one for Rygar if I only had the skill and the space to actually keep it. I already have the PCB, the marquee and the Bezel.  :afro:
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 15, 2010, 01:57:57 pm
If you don't mind me asking, what prompted you to make a reproduction build, instead of finding a GnG cabinet and restoring it?
Availability? New versus Old?

The reason i build the cab is that i live in Denmark, and i only know of one collector in Europe who owns a "real" Ghost n Goblins cab.
Of course i could import one from the US, but that would be to expensive in the end (freight + tax etc.)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: daics3522 on March 22, 2010, 01:20:29 am
Photo links are all broken.....

If you don't mind me asking, what prompted you to make a reproduction build, instead of finding a GnG cabinet and restoring it?
Availability? New versus Old?

The reason i build the cab is that i live in Denmark, and i only know of one collector in Europe who owns a "real" Ghost n Goblins cab.
Of course i could import one from the US, but that would be to expensive in the end (freight + tax etc.)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on March 22, 2010, 03:50:36 am
fixed  :)
Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: EwJ on May 10, 2010, 04:29:16 am
Any updates?
Sound sorted out? Coin door arrive? Source a CP?
Hopin to see some more GnG goodness.

Title: Re: Ghost n Goblins Scratch build..
Post by: Muerto on May 10, 2010, 09:32:04 am
sorry, no updates, i need time!!!!  :( :(
I will of course post pics when itīs done (and the process :) )