Main > Main Forum

---fudgesicle--- mame!

<< < (6/8) > >>

Ond:

--- Quote from: Haze on September 06, 2009, 08:46:16 am ---Without the developers the project would cease to exist, and cease to progress, without you, very little would change. 

--- End quote ---

Did I miss something or misunderstand?  Haze say’s “without” you very little would change  did this get misinterpreted by Xiaou2 here...


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on September 06, 2009, 10:06:40 am --- Firstly,  many Devs wouldnt have so many boards to Dump were it not for the
Non-Dev contributors.   So to say that we are basically useless, is very poor.

--- End quote ---

 :dunno huh?

Any way  I loved this...

--- Quote from: isucamper on September 04, 2009, 08:19:08 am ---Learning ROMs (where to get them, how to use them, why they break) is kind of like a jedi building a lightsaber.  It's something you've got to do on your own (we can't help you, check the forum rules) and you're cabinet isn't going to be what you want it to be until you master them.

--- End quote ---

@endrien -  finding out about Mame versions and how Mame evolves and how to get your ROMs to work is all part of the fun!  Thanks’ to the devs efforts and feedback from the Mame community,  Mame just keeps getting better and better.  That’s the bottom line.

Interesting vid Epyx , you’re always doing such practical stuff dude! ;D

Xiaou2:

--- Quote ---Your post was defending a guy asking for this, so stop acting like an ASS yourself.
--- End quote ---

 You Fail reading comprehension 101  Again.

 I wont bother to counter argue a person who both cant read nor understand
what is said.

 I will only say that its understandable why the other Devs nearly kicked you
out of the group...  And how you get banned from every emu msg board.

Haze:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on September 07, 2009, 12:55:22 am ---
--- Quote ---Your post was defending a guy asking for this, so stop acting like an ASS yourself.
--- End quote ---

 You Fail reading comprehension 101  Again.

 I wont bother to counter argue a person who both cant read nor understand
what is said.

 I will only say that its understandable why the other Devs nearly kicked you
out of the group...  And how you get banned from every emu msg board.


--- End quote ---

real classy argument to use with your trolling, real classy.  I'm banned from one messageboard because the admin are too dumb to see / admit that their software is broken if a post is edited at the same time it's deleted.  *1* ONE.  If I'm banned from any other boards it's news to me!  As for mamedev, that was over people (IMO purposefully) breaking my code, then kicking up a fuss when I undid their changes which I had no way of fixing so that I could continue to make real progress, as well as people making demands that I upload and participate in rom distribution (which doesn't interest me in the slightest, I'm not a dumper, I'm a coder and I don't even wish to be part of a team with such ill-conceived rules)

I read what you had to say, multiple times.  You were repeating the age old 'OMG Mamedevs spend all their time emulating Mahjong games when THEY SHOULD BE DOING WHAT I WANT INSTEAD!!!!' trolls, which are plain and clear to see by everybody who reads this thread.  Your arguments have been comprehensively squashed and invalidated so you resort to basic personal attacks on my comprehension.  You don't like Mahjong games, you want me to work on changing the shifter behavior for Spy Hunter instead.  I get it, I don't care, It's my choice and the things I work on interest me more.

I'm quite capable of reading and understanding every word you've said, and you're basically acting like an ass and a troll because you're not getting the answers you want, and people aren't bending down to do the things you want.  People like you are why it appears that some devs have a bad attitude because bad attitude seems to mean 'defend their stance and won't be bullied about by users who think they know better and want to dictate what people work on'.

Note the contrast in replies to people who genuinely make an effort and want help with things, and the people who are blatantly trolling and looking for trouble.  If somebody has genuine questions, and wants help and is willing to put in the effort I have all the time in the world to help them.  If people want to get ratty, and twist simple sensible decisions made by the development team into 'us vs them' situations, then accuse the development team of creating the said situations on purpose to annoy people / make life difficult for rom sellers / other nonsense 'us vs. them' reason here, and are unwilling to accept that this is not the case without resorting to personal insults, then I don't.

You fall into the latter category.


syph007:
What it seems to me is a difference in perspective.  It seems alot of the devs work on mame because emulating some weird CPU, ROM, aberrant behavior is FUN!!  I get that, Im a senior dev at a big company.  I love to do weird complex things.. I totally get it.  It seems though alot of the devs only get joy out of doing that, and dont really play the games much.  From an outsiders point of view it must seem weird.  Since they think, oh man if iwas a dev I'd totally make game x playable... difference in perspective.   

I've got the MAME source open right now as I was trying to get familiar with it.  I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed following MAME over the years and what I'm starting to feel is guilt.. yes guilt.  It's given so much to me and I want to give something back.  I was hoping to ramp up my understanding and one day be able to give meaningful contribution.

isucamper:

--- Quote from: syph007 on September 07, 2009, 08:51:33 am ---I've got the MAME source open right now as I was trying to get familiar with it.  I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed following MAME over the years and what I'm starting to feel is guilt.. yes guilt.  It's given so much to me and I want to give something back.  I was hoping to ramp up my understanding and one day be able to give meaningful contribution.

--- End quote ---

I'm kind of going through this too.  It's easy to get selfish with MAME.  It's easy to lose sight of just how much it does.  I've had a lot of complaints about it over the years and more times than not my own misunderstandings have been at the root fault. 

If nothing else, these guys are working to document it now.  Once its documented, it'll be there forever... for everyone.  Petty quibbles about it not being optimized or not running a particular game correctly or at full speed will become distant memories in a few years.  In the meantime, it may take a little work, but it is more than usable.  Thanks MAME guys for everything you've done. 

PS:  Xiaou, sorry bud, but most of us here passed English 101.  I find it real annoying when you make incomprehensible arguments (as you usually do) and then blame everyone else for not reading correctly.  Instead of rambling on so much, try and be more concise and to the point with what you are saying.  No one wants to spend a half hour sorting through your long posts. 

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page

Go to full version