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---fudgesicle--- mame!
Xiaou2:
Your Response was definitely much improved this time round. Props to that.
You take the general criticisms as target for your own actions. However, even I
was not directly targeting You personally... until you decided to jump at me.
I understand how and why the project operates the way it does. But from a perspective
of end result... things look very different. Things that should be done, may not get done.
As such like the artwork... which in time, may be lost forever. More so than actual pcbs.
Current Art direction which aims at changing art to vectors isnt the best either. The
look of the art is completely different than what you would see in person... even when
the games were brand spanking new. It just looks too perfect / phony. And sometimes
even compromises that actual art itself from intentional and artistic changes made.
The shifter support does not just effect one game. There are many classic games which use 2 way held down shifters, such as the ever Popular Outrun, Pole Position, Turbo,
and boatloads more. The idea to put a graphical icon in place to solve this really
does not fix or change the problem of input. Which would have to be a button, not
an arcade shifter... in its current format. On a scale of workability, for the end user...
it seems crazy that things like half-axis support has made it into mame... and yet
simple held down button support has not.
--- Quote ---The rom managers know what you throw at them. If you throw an old dat, or old version of MAME they will know how to use it.
--- End quote ---
Yes, but lets say you didnt update your collected roms for a several versions. You have
a folder with misc. roms. Some may have come from sites which were not updated
correctly. Some may be from various versions of mame...
How would you know which Dat file or version of mame to load up with the rom
manager to get them correctly detected and integrated into your current set?
After a certain period of time... you end up with useful roms that you have parts in
them your main collection needs... but the rom manager thinks are garbage and
or unknown files.
Names of roms change, internally and externally. But if an identifier code was present, that set would always be known to whatever read that file.
--- Quote ---There is currently plenty of room for external contributors especially in areas such as artwork. That said the expectations that the development team should do everything the way they want it, for them still makes no sense.
--- End quote ---
I actually agree with this. However, giving in to a few important request is more
beneficial than not. Many have contributed without asking for a thing. Yet, you may
get more contributions from people when they get certain important things done in
return. IE: Make the driver fans happy, and maybe you get an additional $1000
in donations, which may repeat again at a later date.
I did a scan of the Disc of Tron artwork. But it sat on my PC for over a year until
someone finally put the framework in there to support it. Usually people wouldnt attempt
to do something there was no framework for... but it just so happened, I didnt realize
mames artwork was only 256 color limited at that time.
Scanning in such things as sideart and control panels will not even
really get much attention because there is little reason to do work without framework
for it. However, one has to wonder how much slowdown would occur if mame did
have a true 3d output...?
I never said You personally have to do it. I mealy said it would be nice if someone
on the team would. And yeah, from an outside perspective... having most of the driving
games unplayable with correct controls seems a lot more important then a
mahjohng games emulation.
Remember, we are voicing opinions here. Not issuing commands.
I being an arcade enthusiast and collector... I have a lot of passion about these
things. And if I had the brain power to be able to fix the current issues... rest assured I
would.
As for liking Spy Hunter... Its a game that requires a lot of dedicated practice. Its
very difficult, and lightning fast action. But thats why its so fun... (when you get the
hang of it) The insane challenge. I dont think Ive seen better AI in any other game
Ive ever played. The number of circumstances that the baddies can put you into,
is just amazing. Gives you a real sense of accomplishment when you are able to
barely squeeze out of a nearly impossible situation, again and again.
TheShanMan:
Xiaou2, when will it occur to you that you offend people so often that maybe it's worth looking at your approach and figuring out why you're perceived in such an offensive way? Probably because you enjoy being the troll. At least that's all anybody can reasonably guess based on the fact that you never change. You might be a perfectly nice guy in person, but it's hard to see it from your posts (at least any of the ones I've seen).
Haze, despite having been a user of mame for over 10 years, I don't pay attention to all the politics and whatnot, so I have no idea why certain people might not like you or if they're justified. But I will say that I appreciate mame immensely and only wish I could contribute back a fraction of what I've gained from it. If it weren't for mame, I wouldn't have transitioned to becoming a collector, and my kids would have never known the joy of playing classic arcade games (and they derive a lot of joy from it, let me tell you). And don't let people like Xiaou2 get you discouraged. I bet the users who simply appreciate mame outnumber the complainers 100 to 1. Keep up the good work.
As for rom management, once you know where to get the roms, management becomes a complete non-issue. I haven't used clrmame in years. Might be different if I was interested in running multiple versions of mame, or switching to an older version of mame, but I think there is only 1 game that I run an old mame for.
Ummon:
Oh my god, X started writing posts without hard-returning his lines. He's as verbose as ever, though. The problem in this case is, while Haze is anal about stuff that makes a difference MAME-wise, it also results in indulging stuff like this. I'm not sayin don't do it, though. I can skim and scroll on.
Beretta:
so someone mentioned that they changed teh CHD format recently.. anyone know when? i have a set i think from .127.. the games run ok but it complains at startup.
i know mame comes with a CHD utility im assuming i can extract the current CHD into the raw sector dump and then re CHD right?
Ummon:
chdman
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