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Shoegazer:

--- Quote from: Paul Olson on April 24, 2009, 06:45:59 pm ---I had a 65" TV, and my living room wasn't even wide enough to use the Topgun. I never got around to trying it on the MAME cab, so I sold it (sorry you aren't enjoying it Daywane :( ). I used to own the ActLabs gun as well, but it definitely wasn't great either (and it was a $40 gun before demand and lower production jacked up the price).

Unless Andy comes up with something, I think I am finished trying to add guns to my cab. I really want them, but I am tired of wasting time and money on products that just don't deliver.

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I'm right there with you.  I'm done tinkering around with this stuff when the net gain is close to zero, IMHO.  TopGuns suck no matter how you look at it (the TopGun II is NOT any better - it was almost precisely the same hw/fw/sw with the one difference being Vista compatibility - which was just an unprofessional attempt by the company to get more money from owners of the original TG.  They STILL won't deliver true x64 drivers which really disgusted me).  Foley's SGS has been talked up for what, half a year? as if it's right around the corner, but AFAIK it's no further along.  So yeah, stick a fork in me.

Anyway let's not forget the #1 reason lightguns aren't popular on PCs - how many people besides those in our niche do you suppose sit back farther than one foot from their PC?  That's not even arm's length.  I don't think many industry execs would have considered it wise to enter such a niche market.

foleykoontz:

--- Quote from: Shoegazer on April 26, 2009, 10:06:16 am ---Anyway let's not forget the #1 reason lightguns aren't popular on PCs - how many people besides those in our niche do you suppose sit back farther than one foot from their PC?  That's not even arm's length.  I don't think many industry execs would have considered it wise to enter such a niche market.

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That brings up a good point plus most PCs use 17" monitors compared to people here using 23" or so. Shooting on that small of a screen can't be that much fun can it?

ark_ader:
I have two Topguns andthey work perfectly fine for me with the PC and the XBOX.

Maybe a bit more calibration and patience is in order to get the experience right.   ;)

DJ_Izumi:

--- Quote from: Shoegazer on April 26, 2009, 10:06:16 am ---Anyway let's not forget the #1 reason lightguns aren't popular on PCs - how many people besides those in our niche do you suppose sit back farther than one foot from their PC?  That's not even arm's length.  I don't think many industry execs would have considered it wise to enter such a niche market.

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There's also the fact that ANY light gun game is an arcade port.  Direct arcade ports don't even go far on the PC.  It's not like FPS games would really benifit from light gun control.  Have you tried the Capcom 'Gun Survivor' series on PS2 where you use the D-pad on the Guncon to move like an FPS game but can shoot the enemies on screen?  It's not as fun as you'd think. :X

Besides, my understanding is that the Topguns are poorly constructed and are likely to fail under heavy use.

ahofle:

--- Quote from: Bleagh on March 01, 2009, 01:05:09 am ---I guess unless your a nub that wants to drag the front of the gun across your monitor, scratching it up.  Hell, even in the arcades I stood a good 4 or so feet away.  I don't understand the complaints about the distance issue at all. 

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You are obviously referring to a more recent showcase style cabinet in the 'arcades'.  "Normal" standup arcade cabinets had the gun 1-2 feet max from the screen, period.
You couldn't get 4 feet from Duck Hunt unless you cut the gun cable:


The only solution that I've seen that has real potential is the sonic gun technology.  Works with any size screen, any type of screen, any distance, doesn't freak out with background lighting, etc.  I only hope it eventually makes it to the consumer market.

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