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TOK:
Randy, Shmokes gets you with the same rope a dope in every thread.  ;D

RandyT:

--- Quote from: TOK on October 20, 2008, 07:49:53 am ---Randy, Shmokes gets you with the same rope a dope in every thread.  ;D

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Yeah, apparently he has little else he finds joy in ;)

RandyT:

--- Quote from: shmokes on October 20, 2008, 01:47:08 am ---Oh . . . Randy's giving his spinners away for free now?  Why didn't somebody say so?  Sign me up!   ;D

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In all honesty, shmokes, the TTHL was a huge investment in design time and special precision machined parts.  It will be quite some time before I see any return on this item, if ever, due to the very niche nature of the product.  I knew this going into it, so I'm not complaining, but it is currently a big net minus to my business.  It was done primarily to "give something back" to the community, by filling a void that, IMHO, was not being adequately addressed.

So you can think what you want.  But you really have no clue in this instance.

RandyT

shmokes:
You're missing the point.  I'm not insulting you.  There's nothing wrong with running a business.  There's nothing wrong with making profits.  There's nothing wrong with trying to steer customers to your product.  Maybe you'll make a profit on the TTHL, maybe you'll barely break even, maybe you'll take a hit on it.  It's irrelevant.  I'm not saying that you're a sleazy guy.  I'm saying that regardless of whether you will ever recoup your investment in TTHL, you have a substantial interest in my choosing your product over your competitor's.  And that's fine.  I love it.  And if you put the product out there thinking that there was a good chance you'd never turn a profit on it, and almost no chance you'd ever make very much money off it,  ---smurfing--- awesome, man.  Thanks.  You're a great guy, and a wonderful asset to the community.

But it doesn't change anything.  You still have the same financial interest in your products in general, and specifically in the TTHL.  And that's fine.  If it's any consolation I'll take anything bad that Apache or Ultimarc has to say about you with EXACTLY the same grain of salt.  You see that. 

RandyT:

--- Quote from: shmokes on October 20, 2008, 11:43:27 am ---Maybe you'll make a profit on the TTHL, maybe you'll barely break even, maybe you'll take a hit on it.  It's irrelevant. 

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No, I'm afraid it's not.  You have been speaking this entire time about motivation.  No-one who is is motivated only by profit throws money to the wind, and this is the reason you don't see more obscure devices being brought back to life.  IOW, "there ain't no money in it", so there must be some other reason to do it. 

What you say is true in general terms, but to snap to judgment based on simple circumstance is frankly just another form of prejudice.

RandyT

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