TOSEC ???

[SilverVice]

Did somebody know what is TOSEC exactly?
http://tosec.org/?sect=info

I want to download some classic (Atari, Amiga etc) and they seems to have a lot of stuff, but what are they exactly?

They claim to rename the old titles? But is that roms?
Is that usefull do download that?

http://www.sharereactor.com/search.php?search=tosec&category=0

http://www.sharereactor.com/release.php?id=3522

[Jakobud]

TOSEC - The Old School Emulation Center

Tosec is just a group of people that create these renaming/organizing programs for your old rom collections based off of various dat files that they make.  These are useful programs to run on your old rom collections because it can easily tell you if you have any roms missing or any bad roms and stuff like that.

There are some other tools called "GoodTools" that are easily just as popular and work very well.

[Howard_Casto]

ToSec and goodroms aren't as "useful" as you think.  If you get ahold of a dat file then you don't need such utilities as romcenter and or clrmamepro will handle all renaming, ect.... And since romcenter and clr both give you choices in what to do, they are a much better solution in my book.  

However if you run across dat files with names like "good tools" or "cowering's convention" ect, then that means the entries have been pre-standardized via these tools, which is a good thing.  

[SilverVice]

So I will forget this TOSEC thing since I have clrmamepro. Thanks

[Jakobud]

Honestly to me CLRMamepro is ridiculously confusing.

[Howard_Casto]

Me too, that's why I use romcenter.  A much cleaner interface with commands that actually make sense.  

[Grendel_]

maybe a bit late to reply to this thread, but the people answering here seem to be a bit confused...

ToSec and goodroms aren't as "useful" as you think.  If you get ahold of a dat file then you don't need such utilities as romcenter and or clrmamepro will handle all renaming, ect....

the dbases we release are made to be used with tools like romcenter or clrmame. if u don't have these, the tools will do nothing

And since romcenter and clr both give you choices in what to do, they are a much better solution in my book.

as opposed to what?

However if you run across dat files with names like "good tools" or "cowering's convention" ect, then that means the entries have been pre-standardized via these tools, which is a good thing.

euhm, the only big diff between cower's dbases and TOSEC's is that his dbases are attached to a renamingtool, while TOSEC's dbases are available for all the available renamingtools outthere.
another difference is that TOSEC has close to 350+ dbases available and that there are about 30 or so "goodtools" available.
All entries in the TOSEC dbases have names which were standarised, based on the TNC (TOSEC Naming Convention) whihc means that all our 200k entries have the same namingstructure.
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[joeblade]

Replying to howards post above.
I have been using romcenter for the last couple of years or so, as I also like the interface (better than any of the others)

However, more recently I have found that with good roms especially, it doesn't manage the roms as well as clrmame pro. I get crc errors using romcenter, where as I don't using clr mame pro (and its associated good dat file)

I can only assume that the dat files for some of the rom collections are out of date for romcenter ?

Joe

[anthony691]

Well, I use ClrMAMEPro because even though it is harder to use; I really do think it is better.

[Howard_Casto]

Replying to howards post above.
I have been using romcenter for the last couple of years or so, as I also like the interface (better than any of the others)

However, more recently I have found that with good roms especially, it doesn't manage the roms as well as clrmame pro. I get crc errors using romcenter, where as I don't using clr mame pro (and its associated good dat file)

I can only assume that the dat files for some of the rom collections are out of date for romcenter ?

Joe

Well with all respect to the good tools the reason you are getting crc errors is because the roms aren't quite right.  Romcenter is much more aggressive than the good tools.  Sometimes mame can still run a game, but it's not the "correct" rom that's what romcenter is bringing to your attention.  

you can use clrmamepro dat files for romcenter just buy using the romconverter app on the romcenter homepage.  

For the record you should NEVER get dat files from the romcenter homepage. LogiqX keeps the current ones for both tools.  

[joeblade]

> For the record you should NEVER get dat files from
> the romcenter homepage. LogiqX keeps the current
> ones for both tools.  

DOH ! Thats exactly what I have been doing, getting my dat files from the romcenter home page.

Thanks for the reply and the tip.