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NFL MVP through week 6?
« on: October 15, 2007, 09:41:27 am »
For the purposes of actual discussion, let's not all say Tom Brady.  Too easy.

I'm going with Jeff Garcia.  He doesn't have Brady's eyepopping stats.  He has a 100+ rating on a team that has lots its top three running backs and its left tackle (and possibly TE - info isn't out yet on how long).  He has zero INTs more than a third of the way through the season.  Garcia is absolutely carrying the Bucs' offense... he has only been sacked 5 times and let's just say his line isn't exactly giving him 6 seconds to find a receiver.  Yesterday the Titans took the lead with 1:17 left and Garcia calmly marched them downfield for the go ahead score with :11 left.  Clutch.  This same team last year would probably be 1-5 with Simms in there.

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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 09:46:43 am »
I'll go with Randy Moss. He is playing at the top of his game, AND keeping his big mouth shut. Just being on the field, he creates openings all over the place even when he is not directly involved in the play. He has diversified how he plays by operating from every wide receiver position. Take him out of that offense, and Brady's numbers go way down.

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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 11:50:09 am »
I'll go with Randy Moss. He is playing at the top of his game, AND keeping his big mouth shut. Just being on the field, he creates openings all over the place even when he is not directly involved in the play. He has diversified how he plays by operating from every wide receiver position. Take him out of that offense, and Brady's numbers go way down.


The numbers don't go away, they just go to another WR. He's been doing that for many years without a star.

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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2007, 11:56:49 am »
Not quite... there are a hell of a lot more numbers than there have ever been for the Pats.  The Pats offense this year is scoring so many more points now it's ridiculous.  You just can't cover them all.  Too many weapons and that's without a running game.

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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 12:00:16 pm »
Brady always got the job done and had the stats, only now they are all piled up on one WR when they used to be spread out among many guys.

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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 12:05:20 pm »
Brady always got the job done and had the stats

Brady never had the stats like this season.  Not even close.  His career high in TD passes is 28.  He has 21 in six games this year.  He averages about 13 INTs a year... through six games he has two.  He already has almost half as many passing yards this year as he had in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2006.

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New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady became the first NFL quarterback to throw at least three touchdown passes in each of the first six games of a season when he had three in the first half against Dallas on Sunday.

His stats this year are unprecedented.  He's on pace for like 57 TD passes.


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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 12:25:18 pm »
Brady always got the job done and had the stats, only now they are all piled up on one WR when they used to be spread out among many guys.

With a 4-wide set and Randy Moss receiving at least double coverage with an extra safety standing by, there is ALWAYS at least one receiver wide open, and usually two more with inadequate single coverage. Give that situation to a competent and accurate QB, and it is easy pickings.

And yes, 21 TD in the first six games has ALOT to do with Randy Moss being on the field.

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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 12:41:43 pm »

Actually, that can be covered with average receivers and no running game.  The problem is that these are all well above average receivers and Brady is one of the all time greats at QB. 

The no running game will eventually be an issue, I think.  As is the fact that Brady has no backup worth even mentioning.

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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 02:17:10 pm »

The no running game will eventually be an issue, I think.

If everyone gets healthy then it is a non-issue.  Maroney is averaging 4.7ypc and Morris is averaging 4.5ypc so they are getting the job done when they are in there.

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Re: NFL MVP through week 6?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 02:19:57 pm »

Maroney won't get healthy.  He has always been an injury problem and has yet to have even much of a healthy month in the NFL.