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mlalena:
Just to jump in on the Snipe bidding discussion.

I purchased a refurb treadmill from the manufacturer on ebay last year.
They would have 10-20 auctions for the same model going on at once. Most were buy it now, but some were real auctions. From the seller's auction history, I could tell that with the real auction I could get it ~ $50 cheaper as long as I was willing to be patient and not do the buy-it-now bid.

5 times in a row I set my bid maximum of $50 less than the buy it now price. I did this early in the auction. Those 5 auctions (and only those 5) went for more than the buy it now price of the same item from the same seller in a different auction held at the same time. The auction would hit my bid maximum with 3 days left in the auction. In every other auction it never hit that amount.

I've learned the hard way that if you are willing to pay more for the item, then other people perceive that item as being worth more and will raise their maximum bid (even if they can get the same item cheaper from the same seller in a different buy-it-now auction). They will bid, get out bid, and then change their maximum bid again. People are stupid.

Since then, I only do buy-it-now auctions or snipe bid with 10 seconds left. I don't like doing it, but I'm not paying more than I have to and its not my job to make the sellers extra money.

If you're interested, the treadmill was from the "Horizon Exercise Equipment Outlet" ebay store.

patrickl:
I had the same experience with Wico 4-way NOS stick auctions. When I bid on them, people were overbidding similar buy-it-now auctions from the same guy too. With sniping I got a more normal price.

genesim:

--- Quote ---I have no problem admitting I was wrong (as you can see in my previous post) but people using the sniping software and shill bidding and sheild bidding....
--- End quote ---

The fact that you STILL equate sniping and shill bidding show that you haven't learned a thing.

Gee how long does it take...write down when the auction comes down...sign in at the last minute....refresh a few times to keep track of the seconds.   Give yourself, 20 seconds...then put in your bid.    Keep the count...and then hit submit at about 5 seconds left.

Walla, you more then likely will win, and it will be alot damn cheaper.

The problem...people like you are the problem who would rather whine then actually get off your lazy butt and actually do something to help yourself.     Man a great service like Ebay gives us great products from around the world without us having to leave our houses at rock bottom prices and you still frickin' complain???

Here is my advice.   QUIT EBAYING.   This is obviously not for you.

If you equate sniping with shill bidding and you think that is what is hurting ebay....what is right?   Should an auction say....hey good for 2 weeks..except the last 10 seconds?    Now how about the last 10 seconds before that...or before that.    Or better yet, how about, if YOU are winning then no one else can bid.  :laugh2:

I implied that people that act as you do are turkeys or foolish because it is people like YOU who are hurting ebay with going back and forth like malena has implied.    Instead of laying down a final price FIRST, you go back and forth and drive up the price artificially.     When there is more then likely a buy it now, or another auction coming up the back you could gladly win.

Of course all this is great for us sellers and although I encourage otherwise for my own sake, I urge you to keep up your practice...to not "hurt" ebay.  :laugh2:

CheffoJeffo:
* CheffoJeffo can't help wondering what Mark would say ...

genesim:
You got something to add?

C'mon Jeffo tell me you haven't sniped before.

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