Krull by Gotlieb , rare or just indifferent ?

[markymarky99]

Hi, I gave a guy 125.00 for his trade in on the purchase of an Operation Thunderbolt (25"monitor) .  It's a very nice  dedictated KRULL machine.  I couldn't find any KRULL machines on EBAY for a price reference, nor can I find anything on the web for this machine.   Even finding pictures of the machine are hard to come by.  Is this a rare machine or is it one that was just converted into Q-bert's ?  I believe they both share the same wiring, just plug and play?  What is the machine worth, anyone have any clue ?  I'm going to play it for a few days then put it up for sale.   Thanks for your time.

[clanggedin]

Did you goto to KLOV and do a search. It comes up for me:

Manufacturer: Gottlieb
Year: 1983
Class: Wide Release
Genre: Other
Type: Videogame

Monitor:

Orientation: Vertical
Type: Raster: Standard Resolution
CRT: Color
Conversion Class: Gottlieb
Number of Simultaneous Players: 1
Maximum number of Players: 2
Gameplay: Alternating
Control Panel Layout: Single Player
Controls:
Joystick: 8-way
Joystick: 8-way
Sound: Amplified Mono (one channel)

 


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Description
Tied in with the movie "Krull". Playing Prince Colwyn, you must survive five events which repeat after completion. Increasing difficulty. It uses a dual joystick control panel.
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Cheats, Tricks and Bugs
On the boulder round, you will receive a greater score when you run close to a rolling boulder. Go near the top of the screen, find a boulder that rolls down at the same speed as can run and have it chase you down the screen. You can rack up several thousands points this way, but do not stay on the level too long or the game will release lots more boulders!
Trick - Open the coin door, press and hold down the Select button while turning on the power (simply pull out on the coin-door interlock switch). 64 black and white heads of Bob Dobbs will float across the screen.


Game Play
First event: Pickup the pieces (five) of your weapon... the glaive, avoid all boulders. Second event: Shoot the slayers, rescue your army (very much like Robotron). Third event: Pick up your army, lead it to the hexagon. Fourth event: Break down the front wall of the hexagon... when it is black. Fifth event: Save Princess Lyssa, avoid the beast, avoid his fireballs.
Scarcity in collections (VAPS.org)
Uncommon - There are 16 known instances of this game owned by one of our 900 members. Of these, 11 of them are original dedicated machines, 0 of them are conversions in which game circuit boards have been placed in another game cabinet, and 5 of them are only circuit boards which a collector could put into a generic case if desired.

Of the 33,092 video games (2,927 unique) tracked by the Video Game Preservation Society, this game ranks a 15 on a scale out of 100 (100 = most commonly seen, 1=least common) in popularity based on ownership records.
Wanted - We currently do not know of any VAPS members that have gotten around to adding this game to their wish list. The wish-list system is fairly new (not all VAPS members have filled one out) and there are probably a number of collectors who might purchase this game if offered one at the right price.

Rarity is NOT necessarily an indication of value. Some common games show up as very rare here because collectors don't want them (they are common because arcade operatos might be sitting on tons of them in warehouses), while some fairly scarce games are grabbed by collectors every time they show up. Additionally, some games made in the last 5 years are still making money for operators and are thus not yet affordable to the typical collector. For a clue to value, compare how many people have this game vs. how many people want this game and then click on the eBay links to help determine an accurate price range.

Trivia
Designed and programmed by Matt Householder and Chris Krubel with graphics by Jeff Lee and sounds by David Thiel.

[horseboy]

I've got a Krull. Not rare. Great game. It does have a unique cab that isn't an exact match to any other, though. The shape is slightly different than a Q-bert.

[cw]

a good game in my book. I had the good fortune to have played a few back in the day and would be happy to add one to my collection now. 


Great sounds as with all other Gottlieb games that I can think of anyway, and fun game play...

[shorthair]

Yeah, cool game, pretty neat graphics, great sound. Not really like the movie (which blew, anyway - particularly Horner's soundtrack, right on the heels of his Star Trek II soundtrack, basically a rip-off of it), but a neat game.

[markymarky99]

Thanks for the response, I did see what KLOV had to say about KRULL, MY problem is that I can't get a SELLING PRICE reference from EBAY or anywhere else on the web, these things are pretty hard to find.   The machine is in good condition and plays 100%    Do you think 400 is feasible? 

[TOK]

350 to 400 sounds about right. Krull isn't a common game. There weren't a ton of them made, and probably the majority of those ended up getting converted to something else so there is a niche demand for it in the collecting community.

[horseboy]

I've seen a couple go for around $400, but I have also seen a really nice one get no bites at $350.  With ebay a huge factor is your location. If you are in a metropolitan area, you have a pretty good shot at $400 if the machine is nice. I have been looking on ebay at krull stuff for months trying to find some stuff I need.

[markymarky99]

thanks everyone, I'll start it at 395.00 on ebay with no reserve, it is a pretty cool looking machine, game plays great, I live in NJ, can deliver and ship so there should be some activity.   If any of you want it,  email me at sales@markades.com  for pictures.  HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

[RayB]

The other problem for pricing is that rarity doesn't mean higher value. Often games are rare because they sucked. And few people collect sucky games.  I'm sorry to say that Krull did not do well in theatres, and did not do well as a game. (There's just something "unpolished" about the gameplay).

Everybody has heard of PacMan, but few know Krull.  So good luck...

[RayB]

They say lower starting bids usually result in higher final sale price.
 

[shorthair]

They say lower starting bids usually result in higher final sale price.
 

There's a balance that's hard to find when trying to get the most out of an item.

And on Krull game play: I immediately liked it (the glaive thing sorta following on the heels of Tron with the discs) but it was the perspective. Particularly with the then-current monitor technology, the perspective was so small it really down-played the coolness of the graphics.