Author Topic: Help with Wii Media Center (Read 8463 times)

RTSDaddy2 · « **on:** December 27, 2006, 11:34:14 pm »

Ok, allow me to show my ignorance here. I love talking with you all about this stuff, but I apparently have fallen a little out my league with this one.

Is it possible to get redkawa's Media Center up and running yet on the Wii? If so, how do I do it? I cannot see how I get my PC and my Wii to talk to one another, if that is the trick, through the router. Please advise if you don't mind.

Kane · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2006, 09:02:51 am »

after you install the server program on your pc, fire up the Wii's internet browser and type in your local network address with the port 8192 (ex. 192.168.1.1:8192) I'll try this later today and post my report.

stephenp1983 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2006, 09:51:35 am »

what exactly is redkawa's Media Center? I'd be interested in some more information if anyone has some.

Kane · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2006, 10:11:16 am »

Quote from: stephenp1983 on December 28, 2006, 09:51:35 am

what exactly is redkawa's Media Center? I'd be interested in some more information if anyone has some.

Wii Media Center X is a free multimedia server developed by Red Kawa. It allows you to stream certain types of pictures, music, videos and files from your computer (where the server running) to your Nintendo Wii. It runs on most major operating systems including Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.
Features

Videos - Wii Media Center X lets you stream and watch videos in the Flash video format (FLV) on your Wii. You can download flash videos from many places on the internet or create your own using Wii Video 9.

Music - Wii Media Center X lets you playback MP3s on your Wii without the need of an SD card.

Pictures - Red Kawa Media Center lets you view pictures on your Wii without the need of an SD card.

Files - Wii Media Center X lets you browse your files located on your server.

Wii Video 9 and the Wii media center can be found at http://www.redkawa.com/

Kane · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2006, 10:23:05 am »

well not much works in the media center yet, but it is very promising. I was able to browse my pc, but no files would run, not even txt files. The music player is not yet working, and the video player was a bit choppy. Now if someone could figure a way to run an emulator from the server...........

sphetr2 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2006, 11:34:55 am »

Quote from: Kane on December 28, 2006, 10:23:05 am

. Now if someone could figure a way to run an emulator from the server...........

Or, if they ever allow java: http://www.game-oldies.com/

clanggedin · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2006, 11:46:24 am »

I tried Wii media center, but then found Orb. It's totally free too. I now stream music from my jukebox at home to my office. It's very cool!!

http://www.orb.com

AlanS17 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2006, 11:46:58 am »

It's basically a glorified website running off your own PC. You can always just make your own. I haven't seen it for myself, though. Maybe it's nicer than something the typical person could come up with.

crashwg · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2006, 02:29:56 pm »

Would this program/web server work with the dreamcast?

ChadTower · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2006, 02:32:57 pm »

Almost impossible even if someone wanted to try to make it happen. DC doesn't have the horsepower (or a hard drive).

RTSDaddy2 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 29, 2006, 05:02:54 am »

Thanks for the help Kane....but I'm still a little stuck.

I looked up my routers (I figured that's what you meant by local network) address and did the whole 8192 thing via Opera on my Wii. I had the Red Kawa media center up and running on my PC, but when I typed in the address all I got was a blank screen from the Wii side of things. I tried this both with and without the http extension. What do I do next?

AlanS17 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 29, 2006, 08:22:12 am »

I just read that the Wii Media center doesn't have working MP3 streaming or slideshows because of issues with javascript communicating with flash.

I can totally get those working with PHP or ASP.NET to use something more static for the playlists. It wouldn't be as fancy, but it would work. The issue just becomes... Does their web server handle PHP or ASP.NET? I'm inclined to say "no", but I haven't gotten to play with it yet. Plus I'm figuring they don't allow a lot of tinkering.

stephenp1983 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 29, 2006, 09:39:13 am »

looks very promising thanks for the info. I have been using orb for quite awhile now I didn't think to try it on my wii but it works ok. The navigation is sorta difficult and you can only play 1 song at a time.

crashwg · « **Reply #13 on:** December 29, 2006, 10:03:51 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on December 28, 2006, 02:32:57 pm

Almost impossible even if someone wanted to try to make it happen. DC doesn't have the horsepower (or a hard drive).

The Wii doesn't have a HDD either does it? The last time I checked the DC wasn't too shabby of a web browser either. What exactly do you mean by it "doesn't have the horsepower"? Are you referring to specific parts of the "Wii media center" or the whole shebang?

ChadTower · « **Reply #14 on:** December 29, 2006, 10:10:01 am »

The Dreamcast doesn't have the physical resources to stream video. Even if it did, you'd have to have the rare DC BBA.

The Wii doesn't have nearly the need for a HD because it has so much more RAM for caching. It also has a half gig flash for storage.

stephenp1983 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 29, 2006, 11:35:40 am »

I meant to post this earlier but forgot. Has anyone run into a problem with orb streaming video upside down or backwards. It has happened when I try to stream it to my wii, and another computer. It plays fine other than that.

yalborap · « **Reply #16 on:** December 30, 2006, 05:01:26 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on December 29, 2006, 10:10:01 am

The Dreamcast doesn't have the physical resources to stream video. Even if it did, you'd have to have the rare DC BBA.

The Wii doesn't have nearly the need for a HD because it has so much more RAM for caching. It also has a half gig flash for storage.

I believe he wants to use the DC as a CLIENT, not the SERVER.

I currently have a vaguely similar setup going. At the moment, though, I'm trying to figure out how to install a flash player on the setup I have.

ChadTower · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2006, 08:51:08 pm »

Quote from: yalborap on December 30, 2006, 05:01:26 pm

I believe he wants to use the DC as a CLIENT, not the SERVER.

I thoroughly understood that. Both sides participate when something is "streamed".

RTSDaddy2 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2006, 03:01:23 am »

I think I may know part of my problem - I left my firewall on, on the PC, when I was trying this out...going to hit it again without the firewall on and see what happens.

What do you all think of mycasting.orb? It seems ok, but it also seems to me (on the surface level) that you're giving them a lot of access to your PC (by their own instructions). Anybody use it and find it successful?

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2006, 03:31:48 am »

I don't quite understand the point of wii media center, at least not the part about having to have a "server" on the pc side of things. Mind you I know this wii stuff is really new, so it's a great first attempt but......

Since a flash-based media player is possible (see youtube and google video) it seams to me that streaming should be done via smb share, like it is in xbmc. In other words, you share a folder on your pc with your videos in it on the network and the webplayer is configured to look in said folder and just use it as the url for the media. It should also work for the sd slot, but first someone would have to determine the "path" to it.

I'm not an expert on flash (actually I really suck at it) and I haven't looked into the limitations of the opera browser, but in theory, someone who knew what they were doing should be able to build such a player. Heck it might already be out there considering how popular flash has become lately.

RTSDaddy2 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 31, 2006, 03:47:29 am »

I couldn't stand it - tried the firewall off thing and immediately the trial media center popped up. It may have also been that I typed in the address wrong before

It basically does nothing for me, even though it comes up. Just kind of sits there. I thought I had used the video converter program Red has properly, but it did not recognize either clip, gave me a 401 error.

Howard, I appreciate your input as always. What you said actually made sense to me, but I cannot comment on the process involved myself...I just don't have the knowledge that you do. It seems to me the setup you describe is what they are attempting to do with this "Media Center" in some way, but again I cannot attest to that for certain.

At any rate, I was just glad to see that I had cleared the hurdle of getting my PC and my Wii to talk to each other

(yes, I realize what I just wrote...and please resist the temptation - lord knows I know it will be difficult for some of you - to comment on that last statement!)!

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #21 on:** December 31, 2006, 04:06:56 am »

Well not exactly. See with wii media center you need a program running on your pc, which is very hackish (the first xbox streaming attempts used such a design). A network share, on the other hand is a rather universal way of making folders on other pcs accessible via a path command (in other words you can point to it just like you can a regular folder on your pc). It is a network protocol thingy (excuse the technical language) and therfore no real software is required. You can do it in windows/linux ect without the need to load a special piece of software up.

The wii must be using standard tcp/ip protocols to connect to the net since there isn't any software on the pc end to install so in theory it should support shared folders. Since a media player doesn't care where the source file is, as long as it can connect, it should be possible, in theory at least to simply give it a url for the file to play that spans the network, thus eliminating the middle man. Hope that made sense.

RTSDaddy2 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:44:24 am »

Once again Howard, it did make sense - thanks for clearing up the differences for me.

And on a final note for tonight, I have finally achieved SUCCESS!!

If you will allow me, I actually began this insanity in my post about the Wii Video Converter (also by Red). I had no luck in transferring large pieces of video with it, however. A couple of weeks went by and Red's team had developed the Media Center program for the Wii. I have been trying for a while now to see if I could make it work and finally got it all together about 15 - 20 minutes ago!

My whole issue with both was trying to see if one could transfer a large video file from the PC to the Wii for viewing as the Wii currently has no DVD features, etc. Well, after 3 hours of tinkering with my firewall and this program, I have finally converted a 45 minute video clip to FLV 4:3 format (it may be a bit blurry but full screen will be better at 16:9 (we have wide screen TV - why I did 4:3 is beyond me), and had it running through the Wii via the Media Center. No sound flubs, no real issues save the occasional hiccup while everything caught up...and I only saw that happen once.

It ain't blu-ray, and it does take about 15 minutes for a 1.5 GB piece of video footage in mpeg form...but it can be done. I think most satisfying for myself, I figured out the problems I was having this morning on my own!

If you are interested in trying this out, and haven't downloaded a recent version of Red's video converter for the Wii, you should do that first. I'm not sure when the latest version arrived, but about two - three weeks ago there was no FLV codec listed in the conversion process...and, with the Wii being a Flash drive, you most certainly will need the FLV converter program.

Again, thanks to Kane, and Howard for explaining things a bit and getting me started on the right track!

ChadTower · « **Reply #23 on:** January 01, 2007, 12:35:20 pm »

Not everyone is using windows, which makes SMB by default harder for those users. Not impossible but Linux and Mac users would have to do more legwork... whereas the server software is an easier first step until they can make it more friendly for the average user.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 01, 2007, 02:24:28 pm »

I don't know how you could get streaming with just a share folder, HC. How do you get Flash streaming from a shared folder? I understanding assigning a network path to a shared folder to view files, but how do you play them once you can see them without some sort of Flash player set up to do so? You need a web page with embedded Flash that's pointed at that particular file in order to play it.

The Wii doesn't have players of its own. That's why it needs Flash in the first place. And Flash needs a web page in order to work with Opera. And web pages need to be served up by a web server... which I'm sure is essentially what the Wii Media Center is. So I don't know how you can call it hackish at all... unless I'm missing your point entirely.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 01, 2007, 02:38:38 pm »

I'm inclined to start putting together something for myself. I'm just trying to decide if I should do it with PHP or ASP.NET... Ah, decisions decisions...

I'd be glad to release anything I come up with if anybody has input.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 01, 2007, 02:49:12 pm »

I decided I'm gonna do it with ASP.NET so any of you non-MS fans can just suck it. You'll need IIS, but that's something you all will just have to get comfortable with.

I found MS Visual Web Developer for free. That's basically what fueled my decision. Plus my Windows XP machine already has IIS available. I don't need to install any third-party web servers to support PHP. Plus I do ASP.NET for a living now so this should be good practice for me.

Assuming I actually get around to finishing it, I'll be using off-the-shelf Flash apps (since I suck at that) running off of XML-based playlists with ASP.NET generating the XML files on the fly.

This (theoretically) bypasses all the short-comings of the Wii Media center for streaming audio and digital photo slide-shows. As time goes on, I'll fancy it up. First step is to get something that just works at all.

Wish me luck!

(P.S. My dev skills are better than my design skills. I can't promise that it'll be pretty when it's all said and done.)

AlanS17 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 01, 2007, 03:07:05 pm »

Hmmm... this whole thread could just turn into me talking to myself...

I was just thinking how PHP might be more portable and easier for people to set up.

What do you all think? Help me out here...

... and should I start a new thread?

ChadTower · « **Reply #28 on:** January 01, 2007, 03:15:01 pm »

It could easily be done without the server component if the Wii's web browser is not somehow stripped down to allow only http.

There are many protocols other than http.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 01, 2007, 03:21:01 pm »

Well I understand that much, but the browser would also have to provide built-in streaming for these file types. I don't know any browsers out there that can do that. Simply viewing the thing from a directory structure isn't good enough, and downloading isn't an option.

Bottom line: Where does the media player come from? If it doesn't reside anywhere on the client, it must be provided by the server.

ChadTower · « **Reply #30 on:** January 01, 2007, 04:30:42 pm »

Exactly, it's not on the client yet.

It won't be long before it is.

Even if you're using a server, the server isn't playing the media, the client is. The server is just pushing the media out in a format the local client player expects.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 01, 2007, 04:42:24 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on January 01, 2007, 04:30:42 pm

Even if you're using a server, the server isn't playing the media, the client is. The server is just pushing the media out in a format the local client player expects.

Exactly, but right now Flash is the only method available for something of this sort, and we can't just expect that Nintendo will do anything to change that. I haven't heard any such announcements.

I do think the browser has plenty of room for improvement, though. For starters, they could get up on the newest version of Flash. Also it could have better navigation through the whole thing. You gotta go back to the main page to do anything at all (which sucks). And you can't edit a current URL to skip directly to another page.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 01, 2007, 04:44:04 pm »

To further my rant... I was dissapointed with the Wii Media Center when I found out it runs on JSP. The last thing I need is all that Java overhead... Plus there's very little room for customization (no playlists, etc.) that I could find unless I was looking in the wrong place... Then there's the fact that it can't even play MP3's.

ChadTower · « **Reply #33 on:** January 01, 2007, 04:58:01 pm »

It won't be long before all of those issues are fixed. Be patient enough for it to happen.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 01, 2007, 07:42:47 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on January 01, 2007, 04:58:01 pm

It won't be long before all of those issues are fixed. Be patient enough for it to happen.

Has there been some announcement that Nintendo would make a new Wii channel for streaming media? They already have the photo channel, but that requires the SD card.

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #35 on:** January 02, 2007, 04:56:00 am »

A streaming media channel probably isn't gonna happen. Afaik wii hardware only natively supports .mov files. Why is beyond me because it's only a popular format for really high quality video, which is a waste on the wii's puny 480p display. Nintendo could do it, but it would require some sort of software decoder (which is what the wii media player is using) to do so, which doesn't sound like nintendo to me.

Now what is more likely is that the final version of opera will support standard opera codecs, meaning you can have access to all media. This is how they will get people to fork over 5 bucks for the full version even though the free one works fine.

Regarding a flash based player......

The flash player is a program just like any other, it's just written in flash so the wii can run it, so somewhere in the code is a variable telling it where to get the stream from. All one would have to do (and again I'm not a flash programmer, maybe flash 7 can't do this) is get that variable from a text box on the client side webpage instead in which a user would type in the full smb path to the file.

It'd look something like:

//network/group/pc/shared foldername/file.mpg

Then the flash player would setup whatever kinda of magic it's using to play non .mov files on the wii and instead of bridging a connection to already streaming media on a program running on the pc, it'd simply access the file directly via smb share and do all that stuff on it's end.

See mpeg files, for example are an "automagic" streaming format. If you have a mpeg player it can open a file from anywhere, even the network or on the internet and assuming your connection is good enough it can read it right across the net. All that is required is a flash7-based mpeg player to get things working this way on the wii assuming of course flash 7 can read files over the network, which seems likely considering it is a web technology.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 02, 2007, 06:11:10 am »

This is what I'm expecting too... that the final version of Wii Opera will have full support, and that there will not be a dedicated channel for streaming unless it's developed by a third-party vender and released as "WiiWare" in the online store (but I'm not holding my breath). At the very least, it won't be free. Because Nintendo isn't going to do it, and nobody else is gonna do it for free.

The good news is that even the final version of Opera will be free when it's first released. They won't start charging for it until July 2007 or something like that. There will be a several-month window where you can download the full version for free. I'm expecting Flash 8 support, better navigation, etc.

But at the very least it'll work with Flash 7. So doing something in Flash 7 now is guaranteed to continue to work, even if waiting might open up more options.

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #37 on:** January 02, 2007, 07:18:35 am »

Just an update.

I decided to stop theorizing and try some things with smb shares, my results haven't been very promising.

Typing "//" followed by a filename indeed inatiates the "file:" flag in the wii browser, giving the error

"The file at "file://localhost/filename.jpg" does not exist"

typing in "file://" does NOT work

typing in "File://" DOES work but I can't get it to connect, rather it gives a file not found error.

I am using the syntax:

File://192.168.1.2/wii/test.jpg

where the ip is the local ip of my computer and wii is a shared folder i put on it with a jpg file inside, since the wii and the opera browser are capable of displaying jpgs. Insead of directly blocking the request, it says that the file isn't found instead. I am hoping that this is a syntax issue rather than some kind of blocking so if anyone knows some opera-friendly syntax to access smb shares let me know.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 02, 2007, 07:38:56 am »

We might have to wait for the final version to come out. Otherwise, we might be out of luck altogether.

Even if it does work... That'll really only help with image files. I expect we'll have trouble with MP3's or videos using the same method.

Samstag · « **Reply #39 on:** January 02, 2007, 11:10:45 am »

I'm not sure why you'd expect SMB support to be built into Opera. Opera only supports filesystems presented by the operating system. The likelyhood of Nintendo adding an SMB client is pretty slim considering they don't even support DVD video.

ChadTower · « **Reply #40 on:** January 02, 2007, 11:11:35 am »

Consider a homebrew solution that will certainly appear before long.

yalborap · « **Reply #41 on:** January 03, 2007, 03:30:34 am »

Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 02, 2007, 04:56:00 am

A streaming media channel probably isn't gonna happen. Afaik wii hardware only natively supports .mov files. Why is beyond me because it's only a popular format for really high quality video, which is a waste on the wii's puny 480p display. Nintendo could do it, but it would require some sort of software decoder (which is what the wii media player is using) to do so, which doesn't sound like nintendo to me.

Now what is more likely is that the final version of opera will support standard opera codecs, meaning you can have access to all media. This is how they will get people to fork over 5 bucks for the full version even though the free one works fine.

Regarding a flash based player......

The flash player is a program just like any other, it's just written in flash so the wii can run it, so somewhere in the code is a variable telling it where to get the stream from. All one would have to do (and again I'm not a flash programmer, maybe flash 7 can't do this) is get that variable from a text box on the client side webpage instead in which a user would type in the full smb path to the file.

It'd look something like:

//network/group/pc/shared foldername/file.mpg

Then the flash player would setup whatever kinda of magic it's using to play non .mov files on the wii and instead of bridging a connection to already streaming media on a program running on the pc, it'd simply access the file directly via smb share and do all that stuff on it's end.

See mpeg files, for example are an "automagic" streaming format. If you have a mpeg player it can open a file from anywhere, even the network or on the internet and assuming your connection is good enough it can read it right across the net. All that is required is a flash7-based mpeg player to get things working this way on the wii assuming of course flash 7 can read files over the network, which seems likely considering it is a web technology.

What you're forgetting is that's not how it works. How it works is when the FULL browser is released, for a while it's free, then everyone who doesn't jump on while it's still free will later pay some money for the EXACT SAME thing. It's not a 'well here is a free one AND THIS TOTALLY AWESOME BETTER ONE THAT COSTS MONEY' situation, it's a 'hey look at this thing we made you can get it for free for a while' situation.

rampy · « **Reply #42 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:43:57 am »

Quote from: Samstag on January 02, 2007, 11:10:45 am

I'm not sure why you'd expect SMB support to be built into Opera. Opera only supports filesystems presented by the operating system. The likelyhood of Nintendo adding an SMB client is pretty slim considering they don't even support DVD video.

The absense of DVD playback is most likely a licensing/cost issue to keep the price down initially (relatively).

rampy · « **Reply #43 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:46:27 am »

I rounded up a few links to posts about using orb and stuff on the wii

http://www.byopvr.com/displayarticle661.html

how's folks playback of youtube (via sofatube) stuff? is there anyway to get it to "preload"/cache a little bit better. Not sure if I just have a lousy wireless connection (bandwith issue), or if the wii struggles a little bit with playback of flash video.

*shrug*

rampy

stephenp1983 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 03, 2007, 12:36:30 pm »

What is the difference in ORB 1.0 and 2.0? I'm still using the original one would my experience be better with 2.0?

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #45 on:** January 03, 2007, 11:52:12 pm »

Quote from: rampy on January 03, 2007, 10:46:27 am

I rounded up a few links to posts about using orb and stuff on the wii

http://www.byopvr.com/displayarticle661.html

how's folks playback of youtube (via sofatube) stuff? is there anyway to get it to "preload"/cache a little bit better. Not sure if I just have a lousy wireless connection (bandwith issue), or if the wii struggles a little bit with playback of flash video.

*shrug*

rampy

I had that problem until I changed the operating channel of my router. For whatever reason, 6 is lousy on the wii, changing it to 1 or 11 helps tremendously. Any other stuttering issues are just due to the wii being kinda puny. It's only slightly more powerful than the xbox with about 12 megs more ram, so consdiering what pc equivelent resources are required to play high res flash stuff it is a miracle it supports flash at all.
I think youtube has preferences somewhere in their site though, so you could manually set it to a slower conneciton than you actually have and it'd cache a bit more.

About the smb thing... I'm not that familair with opera (cause it sucks) so of course I assumed it supported smb shares considering every other browser I know does.

Rampy is right about the dvd thing btw. The wii can read physical dvd discs right now because the wii discs are based on dvd's. All that would be required to play dvds would be a software decoder and a liscensing fee. The latter would be the only thing nintendo would have to sweat. Since the xbox is less powerful and xbmc has a really good software dvd decoder, I think dvd support, at least at the homebrew level, is a given.

Now on another note I think the wiimail system might be the best exploit to get media on the wii (aside from the sd slot of course). You can already send vids and pics through it's just the wii mail servers have a 1mb limit. Now if someone were to figure out how to change their wii's email address to say a gmail one, there might be some options.

I'll be happy when we can figure out how to send true 480 p dvd quality video through the wii. Until then these other options seem a little iffy considering my modded xbox is right below it.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #46 on:** January 03, 2007, 11:59:19 pm »

I think the best exploit may be the online purchasing system. If someone can figure out how to emulate the download and registration of a ROM or app, they're home free.

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #47 on:** January 04, 2007, 12:12:38 am »

Quote from: AlanS17 on January 03, 2007, 11:59:19 pm

I think the best exploit may be the online purchasing system. If someone can figure out how to emulate the download and registration of a ROM or app, they're home free.

The problem with that one is that nintendo has complete control of the shopping channel's access. You can re-direct email and such with standard methods that would cripple the wii if they were to block it, but with the shopping channel, they can change the access/download/verification protocol to anything they wish. Nintendo has already done this actually right after week one. They can also "force" the firmware update on you by not allowing you to add any new content to the wii unless you have a certain version of the firmware.

ChadTower · « **Reply #48 on:** January 04, 2007, 07:49:35 am »

All they have to do is either bypass or satisfy the verification on a ROM or app, then you can put it there from a secondary source. Just like any other recent console.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:18:56 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on January 04, 2007, 07:49:35 am

All they have to do is either bypass or satisfy the verification on a ROM or app, then you can put it there from a secondary source. Just like any other recent console.

That more along the lines of what I was thinking.

Samstag · « **Reply #50 on:** January 04, 2007, 09:37:40 am »

Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 03, 2007, 11:52:12 pm

About the smb thing... I'm not that familair with opera (cause it sucks) so of course I assumed it supported smb shares considering every other browser I know does.

No browser supports SMB. Browsers support filesystems. The operating system provides the SMB client.

That's not to say they can't add SMB client support, but it's not something browsers are expected to handle themselves.

rampy · « **Reply #51 on:** January 04, 2007, 11:31:33 am »

I'm pretty sure my wifi channel isn't at the default as I had some interference issues previously -- but it couldn't hurt to double check and re-jiggle the handle.

Another way to stream music with a wii "optimized" browser... (via digg) there's also an *cough* adult site now that is wii browser friendly... lol!

http://www.teknision.com/wii/player.html

AlanS17 · « **Reply #52 on:** January 04, 2007, 07:14:56 pm »

Quote from: rampy on January 04, 2007, 11:31:33 am

Another way to stream music with a wii "optimized" browser... (via digg) there's also an *cough* adult site now that is wii browser friendly... lol!

http://www.teknision.com/wii/player.html

While the interface is a little prohibitive, this is the first example of music on the Wii that shows promise in my mind.

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #53 on:** January 04, 2007, 11:40:37 pm »

Finetune is awesome. Apparently so awesome that us wii users killed it after only two days.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 04, 2007, 11:43:01 pm »

Leave it to us to overly-exploit something.


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