Author Topic: Arachnid Super Six ll dartboard upgradeable?? (Read 39651 times)

squirrellydw · « **on:** November 10, 2006, 05:27:49 pm »

Does anyone know if you can upgrade an Arachnid Super Six ll dartboard so you can play more games, like the Galaxy??

zudmsc · « **Reply #1 on:** November 10, 2006, 11:43:30 pm »

Yes I belive so, but you need a new Dallas chip.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2006, 12:14:30 am »

Quote from: squirrellydw on November 10, 2006, 05:27:49 pm

Does anyone know if you can upgrade an Arachnid Super Six ll dartboard so you can play more games, like the Galaxy??

The Super Six Plus 2 was the last of the 6000 series (model 6300 to be exact). It's been many years since we operated these machines on our route (we had 100 of them).

There were several game eprom updates issued over the years. I believe the last software update was issued in 1992. The Galaxy and Super Six series gameboards are totally different animals, however, at one time Arachnid did make a conversion kit to convert the Super Six series into a Galaxy machine. That kit included new gameboard, wiring harness, power supply, cabinet graphics/decals.

It is unforunate that Arachnid no longer supports anything from the Galaxy on back. I believe the only current factory support is for the Black Widow and Galaxy 2. Arachnid does keep some manuals and tech tips in the archive of the support section of their website, www.arachnidinc.com

squirrellydw · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2006, 08:39:31 am »

any idea where I could get a conversion kit and how much they are??

Ken Layton · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2006, 10:52:17 am »

Those kits came out ten years ago. There might be some Arachnid distributors that might still have some NOS kits or you could try ebay. You may even ask the factory if there are still some kits there, however, the factory does not sell direct and you'd have to order it thru a dealer/distributor (in the Yellow Pages under "Amusement Devices" or "Dart Supplies").

Brunnen-G · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2006, 01:51:43 am »

Betson's catalog has the "Dart head kit 6300 to Galaxy conversion" for $304.78. Part number 26834.

I'm not sure if that includes the PCB as well, so it would be worth your while to call Betson and confirm what the kit comes with. www.betson.com

Ken Layton · « **Reply #6 on:** November 13, 2006, 02:05:24 am »

All that kit does is allow you to use a Galaxy target head assembly in a 6300 series game.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #7 on:** November 13, 2006, 03:00:52 pm »

What benefit do you get using the Galaxy dart head?

Ken Layton · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2006, 05:49:01 pm »

All parts/service/support for the 6300 series target head are no longer available. That's why the kit to allow a Galaxy target head to fit and work in a 6300.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2006, 09:25:31 pm »

What is a good price for a Super 6 anyhow??

Ken Layton · « **Reply #10 on:** November 18, 2006, 12:22:52 am »

Several years ago, we sold all ours for $50 a piece.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #11 on:** December 01, 2006, 07:37:52 pm »

FYI I got a Super 6 Plus 2 and I am still looking for an upgrade kit.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #12 on:** December 02, 2006, 12:35:01 am »

Can of air or a vacuum cleaner plus a 1" common paintbrush.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #13 on:** December 02, 2006, 09:54:35 am »

Thanks, I will try this in the next day or two. Any other hints you can give me? Find me that upgrade kit yet or a part number?

squirrellydw · « **Reply #14 on:** December 02, 2006, 04:27:22 pm »

Quote from: Ken Layton on November 11, 2006, 12:14:30 am

There were several game eprom updates issued over the years. I believe the last software update was issued in 1992. The Galaxy and Super Six series gameboards are totally different animals, however, at one time Arachnid did make a conversion kit to convert the Super Six series into a Galaxy machine. That kit included new gameboard, wiring harness, power supply, cabinet graphics/decals.

It is unfortunate that Arachnid no longer supports anything from the Galaxy on back. I believe the only current factory support is for the Black Widow and Galaxy 2. Arachnid does keep some manuals and tech tips in the archive of the support section of their website, www.arachnidinc.com

How do I know what version eprom I have and can I update that?
Sorry for all the questions Ken

Thanks

squirrellydw · « **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2006, 05:15:26 pm »

Thanks Ken, I did as you said and it is a lot cleaner now. any idea how I can find out what version eprom I have?

Ken Layton · « **Reply #16 on:** December 06, 2006, 12:43:42 am »

There's a paper label on the game chip with "V2.3" (as an example) printed on it.

The later versions of the game program has the version number in the corner of the picture on the monitor in test mode.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #17 on:** December 06, 2006, 10:19:26 am »

Thanks

squirrellydw · « **Reply #18 on:** December 19, 2006, 09:29:38 pm »

Hey Ken, another question. What is the difference in eprom versions?? I have a 1990 version 2.7 and say I get a 1992 any idea what the differences would be? Would the newer chip work in my board?

squirrellydw · « **Reply #19 on:** December 23, 2006, 05:14:15 pm »

Ken Layton · « **Reply #20 on:** December 23, 2006, 11:43:29 pm »

It's been so long, I think it'll work. I know that after 1992 the programs were written to only support the "Super Spider" matrix and not the standard switch matrix.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #21 on:** December 24, 2006, 10:59:18 am »

thanks

squirrellydw · « **Reply #22 on:** January 04, 2007, 10:40:45 pm »

Hey Ken, me again. When I asked earlier about upgrading you said

Quote

"That kit included new game board, wiring harness, power supply, cabinet graphics/decals."

Does that mean if I could buy just the main board, power supply and wiring harness I could make it work? Is there anything else I need? Any other boards or anything? I really wanna play Gotcha

Thanks

Ken Layton · « **Reply #23 on:** January 05, 2007, 01:11:12 am »

If Gotcha is part of the Galaxy program, then I suppose you could buy the gameboard , wire harness, and power supply. You'd still need the correct target head assembly for a Galaxy to score correctly.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #24 on:** January 05, 2007, 10:35:02 am »

Ordered the dart head already, the upgrade mentioned above.. Now to find everything else, any idea beside ebay?

Thanks

mrmikeman · « **Reply #25 on:** January 06, 2007, 05:01:32 pm »

Actually Ebay is a good spot right now. Some guy has 4 Galaxy boards up for sale (@30$). You'll need the correct ROM version to get "Gotcha", "Bermuda Triangle", and the other cool games.... The most recent ROM is v7.04. If it's not already on the board then that'll be the toughest find (I may be able to help with that one).

Mike

squirrellydw · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2007, 08:38:43 pm »

Yeah, I saw that on Ebay I have a bid on one already, do you have extra roms or anything else you can help me with, power supply, wire harness? I don't think the one from my super 6 will work.

mrmikeman · « **Reply #27 on:** January 08, 2007, 03:28:55 pm »

I have the ROM file that I can burn but I don't have a blank 2M EPROM. I don't have anything else.

For the power supply just get both manuals and confirm voltages and pinouts. You may be able to modify it to make it work.

Mike

squirrellydw · « **Reply #28 on:** January 08, 2007, 04:44:08 pm »

Cool thanks. How much are blank EPROMs and where can I get them? How much for you to burn it?

mrmikeman · « **Reply #29 on:** January 08, 2007, 08:13:05 pm »

My buddy runs www.hobbyroms.com

He's SUPER cheap and fast and I'll provide him the file.

Mike

squirrellydw · « **Reply #30 on:** January 09, 2007, 02:35:22 pm »

Just found out that part number 26834 is no longer made. grrrr

squirrellydw · « **Reply #31 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:20:41 pm »

Ok, I ordered the whole galaxy dart head and I won a Galaxy board on ebay (rom version 7.04 I hope). Now I need to find a power supply since I don't think mine will work. Anything else I need? I am sure I need another board but maybe not.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #32 on:** January 10, 2007, 10:00:23 pm »

OK, found the Galaxy manual online and it looks like I need the "Smart Target Interface Board" PN# 24798. It looks like HAPP has it for $91 if it is still available.

Does anyone know if this is the Power supply for it?
38603 Power Supply Switching w/ Dimmer For Galaxy $371.85

and do I need this or does it come with the above?

36994 Board For Power Supply Galaxy $64.70

I will wait to see if I can find one locally or if it shows up on ebay before I order for that price.

Quote from: mrmikeman on January 08, 2007, 03:28:55 pm

For the power supply just get both manuals and confirm voltages and pinouts. You may be able to modify it to make it work.

Mike

I will look at this but I suck at it, I always screw something up. Does anyone know if this will work?

Ken Layton · « **Reply #33 on:** January 11, 2007, 12:09:13 am »

38603 already has the 36994 board in it.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #34 on:** January 11, 2007, 10:34:56 am »

Thanks Ken. Off to find a power supply

squirrellydw · « **Reply #35 on:** January 13, 2007, 05:02:04 pm »

woohoo, the board I won on ebay says it version 7.04, no way of testing it yet though. Still looking for that power supply.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #36 on:** January 19, 2007, 09:49:04 am »

I recieved my Galaxy dart head today and it has the Smart Target Interface Board PN# 24798 on it. So all I think I need is that dam power supply. The Galaxy board will work with the standard Super6 9inch monitor right?

Ken Layton · « **Reply #37 on:** January 19, 2007, 11:39:19 am »

Yes, I believe it does work with the 9" monitors. Remember that the 9 inchers operate on 12 volts DC at around 2 amps for current. They accept standard composite video signal input and I'm pretty sure the Galaxy outputs that type of video.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #38 on:** January 19, 2007, 02:37:35 pm »

cool, thanks again Ken. Have any used Galaxy power supplies you wanna sell

squirrellydw · « **Reply #39 on:** February 04, 2007, 01:44:46 pm »

In the Betson catalog they list part# 39551 as a transformer, what does this do?

Ken Layton · « **Reply #40 on:** February 26, 2007, 01:18:44 pm »

Quote from: squirrellydw on November 10, 2006, 05:27:49 pm

Does anyone know if you can upgrade an Arachnid Super Six ll dartboard so you can play more games, like the Galaxy??

I have scanned some of the Arachnid English Mark Darts upgrade/conversion manuals and sent them to www.bombjack.org and http://arcarc.xmission.com for posting for free downloads.

zudmsc · « **Reply #41 on:** June 28, 2008, 04:37:00 pm »

Anyone know where to get Gaxay artwork for the dart cabinet?

Michael

Ken Layton · « **Reply #42 on:** June 28, 2008, 08:04:19 pm »

Get the part number from a Galaxy manual at Arachnid's tech support section of their website. Then call several Arachnid distributors to see if they still have some in stock.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #43 on:** December 07, 2009, 06:55:03 pm »

I have scanned more of my English Mark Dart 6000 series and Galaxy series manuals & schematics.

The 6000 series equipped with the "Super Spider" target head must use game eprom chip U15 with version 3.0 or later.

The manual for the Galaxy dart game posted on Arachnid's site is for the Galaxy Darts equipped with a switching power supply. I have scanned the Galaxy manual with the linear (analog) power supply. This is the one with the tranformer, filter capacitor, and circuit board that looks like the 6000 series power supply.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #44 on:** December 13, 2009, 02:58:37 pm »

Here's a 6000 series dart board analog power supply converted to a switching regulator style.

stevengaa · « **Reply #45 on:** January 31, 2011, 06:52:16 pm »

Does anyone know of an LCD conversion kit for the Super 6?

Ken Layton · « **Reply #46 on:** January 31, 2011, 11:49:23 pm »

The gameboard has an RCA video output jack on it. Some boards did not have the jack installed, but the space is there for it.

The video output signal is standard NTSC composite video. So you can patch it into any television set that has a video input jack on it.

stevengaa · « **Reply #47 on:** February 05, 2011, 12:32:32 pm »

Thanks Ken for the info on the RCA jack;

I didn't know I had that, worked great. However I noticed that my display must be going I seem to have lost screen pixels I thought this was the issue with the old monitor but found it must be something with my board guess I'll have to look for a new one, unless anyone would have some ideas I could try.

Thanks again!

Ken Layton · « **Reply #48 on:** February 05, 2011, 10:24:01 pm »

Be sure to press down all the socketed integrated circuits on the gameboard. Sometimes they work loose over a period of time.

Also, as shown in the game manual instructions, go into the "Spider Writer" program and clear all the garbage out of the memory (clear screen command).

stevengaa · « **Reply #49 on:** February 07, 2011, 08:15:41 am »

Thanks again Ken!!

Completely forgot about the "Spider Writer" program, Worked like a champ no more missing pixels.

Briandcheryl · « **Reply #50 on:** December 24, 2012, 04:03:55 pm »

Can anyone help me locate a complete power supply for an English marks super six game? It is the older style with the small monitor on the left side. My power supply started smoking.


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