Arcade Glass FS

[tommy]

Edited** Lucite/Lexan only.

Arcade 1/4 lucite/lexan glass clear.  All glass will be cut to size exactly to the 1/16 from your measurements up to 30x30 size. All glass will be cut to size new from glass sheets. Anything else needed done to the glass as in rounded edges or holes drilled in the glass you will need to send a pattern and will be made exactly as you need  for an lextra charge.

If you need a bigger size then offered please email me a question first. Glass does not have any artwork or decals, plain glass only offered.

$60.00 Plus shipping for the standard size listed.

[dweebs0r]

your choice of grey, bronze or clear

Do you have any comparison pictures of the different colors?

Thanks,
-D

[ChadTower]

That's a good price.  Is this tempered glass?

[tommy]

your choice of grey, bronze or clear

Do you have any comparison pictures of the different colors?

Thanks,
-D

I will try to get up some pics of the different types soon for you.

That's a good price.  Is this tempered glass?

Price does not include it being tempered as it will need to be send out for that process and will take way too long to get orders done quickly, not to mention cost more. I would rather not send glass out to be tempered unless i have many orders.

[dweebs0r]

Thanks for the pics.  I have very dark tinted plexi in it now and it is way too dark.  It really seems to take away from the clarity of the monitor even with the brightness all the way up but the clear plexi I put in it doesnt seem quite right either.

-D

[ChadTower]

IMO, clean glass always looks a lot better than the best plexi.  Plexi ages and is what many call a "living material".

[Zakk]

Plexi ages and is what many call a "living material".

I feed my plexi cheetos.

[tommy]

Shipping should not be more than $20.00 to most areas in the US.

I'm still working on getting some good pictures up in this thread soon.

[dweebs0r]

Great.

If possible, show the various glass colors over a vga monitor so I can compare the look before choosing a particular color.

Thanks,
-D

[tommy]

Bump 

[MameJunkie]

Interested....waiting for pics...

[More Cowbell]

Interested....waiting for pics...

What he said.

[RayB]

I'm not sure why you're offering bronze. That distorts color with a slightly brownish/yellowish color. Should only be clear and grey. (And then people here won't be confused as to "how it looks").

[tommy]

Still working on getting pics guys, sorry for the delay.

RayB i think more color shade options is a good thing in choosing glass for many different project cabs.

[tommy]

I couldn't get any pics with the glass infront of a monitor, hopefully these can give you an idea of how grey and bronze look.

[Lilwolf]

Hey, plan on selling these for a while?  I need to get some glass at some point, but I wont be ready for a few months.

[MameJunkie]

BTW...what is the normal thickness of the glass?
1/4" like this?  I also see 3/16".

[Donkey_Kong]

I'm not sure why you're offering bronze. That distorts color with a slightly brownish/yellowish color. Should only be clear and grey. (And then people here won't be confused as to "how it looks").

So what do the games look like through the bronze?...I think I might like a piece of that as I think it could go nice with my knotty pine cabinet.

So it is $60 total with shipping in the US? How much do you think I would pay for this or something similar locally?

[tommy]

Hey, plan on selling these for a while?  I need to get some glass at some point, but I wont be ready for a few months.

I'll be here and still selling glass when you need it. This thread may end up not being on the first page though, unless it keeps getting bumped or considered a worthy thread to be "stuck" at the top.

I'm not sure why you're offering bronze. That distorts color with a slightly brownish/yellowish color. Should only be clear and grey. (And then people here won't be confused as to "how it looks").

So what do the games look like through the bronze?...I think I might like a piece of that as I think it could go nice with my knotty pine cabinet.

So it is $60 total with shipping in the US? How much do you think I would pay for this or something similar locally?

The bronze glass may seem abit strange to you when you first see it and install it in your cab, as grey glass can.

After having it for awhile you won't even notice any on-screen difference. The bronze won't over power the monitor and won't make games look all bronze. All it does is give you a color choice when your cab paint colors won't really look good with a grey tint monitor glass. If you have an orange cab, bronze glass would look alot better then using grey, it's all hard to say and comes down to your opionon and likes.

I'm not sure what glass costs in other states. Check out your local glass prices and if my glass costs less order it. I think even with an extra $20.00 shipping my glass offered is still cheaper and i will cut it to the exact size you need.

Most glass shops when you go in and buy glass you can take it home and find scratches, i send my glass out as perfect as i can as if it was for me.

[Donkey_Kong]

Well because you are on byoac i would rather buy from you without having to go to my local glass shop. I'm curious about the bronze for my project. I'm gonna send you a pic later and you tell me if you think it would be good or not.

Thanks for the reply!!

DK

[Donkey_Kong]

Tommy-

My whole project seems kinda bronzish so far...Would bronze glass be too much bronze or would it be cool?

[DrewKaree]

So it is $60 total with shipping in the US? How much do you think I would pay for this or something similar locally?

Give him a few numbers of glass shops in your area so he can make a few calls

I know you said you don't want to do tempered glass, but is this single or double strength glass?

Also, the edges, are they rounded after sanding, or straight?  The sanding gives it that somewhat-frosted look, right?  Obviously it should be hidden by the sides/bottom/top of someone's cab so it shouldn't make a bit of difference, I'm just wondering, since that frosted look has a bit of "grip" to it.

Lastly, how are you gonna ship this?  Breakage seems like it'd be a serious problem.  This is the question I think is MOST important.  Doesn't make sense to worry about the color of broken glass, right?    And what's going to be your policy on breakage?  (I'd suggest requiring a photo if you're gonna do refunds/replacements)

[Donkey_Kong]

Quote from: Donkey_Kong on November 07, 2006, 07:47:57 PM
So it is $60 total with shipping in the US? How much do you think I would pay for this or something similar locally?

Give him a few numbers of glass shops in your area so he can make a few calls

I know this question seemed a bit retarded but in my defense I must say this...It would be nice to get a comparison price since one of the claims here is that Tommy's glass is a great deal. I just assumed he might know then what a typical glass shop in the US would charge for something similar. I might be a heck of alot more inclined to snatch a piece of this from Tommy if he were to come on here and say something like..."You could expect to pay around $75-$80 at your local glass shop" I being the gullible sucker that I am would probably click the buy button without even checking with the glass dude down the road. I'm building an arcade machine, I would rather not even talk to a "glass guy" if I don't have to. I would MUCH rather chat with a fellow cab builder/glass dude anyday.

I'm also assuming Tommy would have shipping arraingments worked out before offering this. But yea, the UPS man will kick the crap out of that box all the way to my doorstep!! We all know that is true!! I would still be willing to take the chance.

[tommy]

If any glass arrives broken just have it sent back at no charge to you and i will replace it for free. I have the glass i send insured. Unfortunately time will be wasted in the event of broken glass but it will not cost you anymore.

[tommy]

I know you said you don't want to do tempered glass, but is this single or double strength glass?

Also, the edges, are they rounded after sanding, or straight?  The sanding gives it that somewhat-frosted look, right?  Obviously it should be hidden by the sides/bottom/top of someone's cab so it shouldn't make a bit of difference, I'm just wondering, since that frosted look has a bit of "grip" to it.

Single strength glass is 1/16 thick, double strength is 1/8 thick, like i said I'm offering 1/4 thick glass.

The edges are kinda rounded but not enough to really mention. The sanding of the edge does kinda give it somewhat of a frosted look on the edge but i wouldn't say it's grippy. I use a pretty fine sand paper on the edge so to answer your question.. it's not a clear perfect machined edge but it does fit the application well.

So it is $60 total with shipping in the US? How much do you think I would pay for this or something similar locally?

Give him a few numbers of glass shops in your area so he can make a few calls

That's pretty damn funny drew.   

[tommy]

For all those interested in buying glass from me you might be interested to know, i just found out my first glass order did arrive broken unfortunately, i will be sending a new glass piece out at no charge to the buyer.

I do know what it feels like to get cheated and or robbed after paying hard earned money on something and have someone not care or not make good on a deal, anyone who buys glass will get what they pay for or if for some odd reason the shipping carrier cannot get it there safe will get a refund even if i have to take a loss.

[Donkey_Kong]

So it is $60 total with shipping in the US? How much do you think I would pay for this or something similar locally?

Give him a few numbers of glass shops in your area so he can make a few calls

That's pretty damn funny drew.   

Yea, I'm an idiot...You can say it!!    
Warning To All: User might not be as clever as avatar may suggest!

[RayB]

Refusal to have it tempered + first orders broken = I hope you realize now you should only deal in tempered. Especially if it's going to be SHIPPED somewhere.

[tommy]

Refusal to have it tempered + first orders broken = I hope you realize now you should only deal in tempered. Especially if it's going to be SHIPPED somewhere.

Tempered does not mean it will stay in one piece, it only means that the broken pieces will be smaller.

[ChadTower]

Tempered glass is 4x to 6x stronger.  Far less likely to break.

[tommy]

I really don't want to argue with you here chad, tempered glass is actually weaker and can break easier if the corner is hit the wrong way. A piece of non tempered glass can withstand a hit to the corner and only chip while the tempered piece will burst.

[ChadTower]

I took that information directly from Wikipedia here.  If it's not correct, though every piece of experience I've ever had working with glass says it is, then feel free to correct the article.

Additional links:

2. Fully tempered glass as supplied for shower door, patio doors, etc., is four to five times as strong as annealed glass of the same type and thickness and can meet CPSC break-safe requirements for Category I or II safety glazing. 

The tempering process increases the strength of the glass to five to 10 times that of untempered glass. . 

Tempered (toughened) glass is two or more times stronger than annealed glass.

[tommy]

Tempered does add to the strength of the glass in certain situations... but it is mostly a safety issue.

If i'm going to install a big piece of glass for a storefront, it is more safe for it to be tempered and is the law in many if not all states. The main point of it being tempered is so the business who has the glass in-front of their store is not responsible for harming anyone near the glass and to avoid lawsuits.

Tempered glass breaks into very small pieces compared to non-tempered that can break into unexpected large shards that can end up really causing damage to the skin.

While tempering the size glass i offer is a good idea, (can't hurt) but is not really necessary, it can be broken unexpectedly and not hold together as glass not tempered would. If i tap the corner of the non-tempered glass while installing it most likely the edge will just chip off slightly and can still be used, if i tap the tempered glass while installing it most likely if will burst into a thousand pieces.

In a sense it is stronger but in the same sentence it is weaker, Depends on where the glass takes damage from.

On another note, tempered glass can even break unexpectedly at anytime even without anything coming into contact with it, either from temperature fluctuations or a bad temper job that cannot be detected.

I can't tell you how many homes i've been in that needed sliding glass door/patio door glass replaced after the homeowner said "i was just sitting here and it shattered".

[ChadTower]

Those people are probably lying because they don't want to admit their tripping son ran into it.

[tommy]

Those people are probably lying because they don't want to admit their tripping son ran into it.

Oh chad, i really had a hard time not commenting on that ignorant post.

Please try to not post here anymore unless you intend to buy glass. Please!

[RayB]

Tommy, your examples of what can cause tempered glass to break are not applicable here. We're talking sudden temperature changes of a pane of glass within a frame. There are lots of factors working against the glass here. First of all there is the pressure on all sides of the frame the glass is mounted in. Couple that with quick cold->hot->cold changes in temperature and the resulting forces on the glass can cause it to shatter.

But I fail to see how that applies to a single sheet that is not mounted in a frame. In this case you benefit from the "5 to 10x stronger" characteristic. The fact that it breaks into squares is not it's only advantage. It's the strength of it during shipping that should matter.

Eventually, you'll find that the cost of replacing panes lost to breakage will be the same or more than the cost of having it tempered in the first place.

I'll shut up now, as you probably don't want my 2 cents in here anymore either.  Just please let us know when you reach that cost threshold so I can say "I told you so". OR if you never do, let me know anyways. I'll buy you a virtual beer. 

[KDOG]

from the same wiki link

Toughened glass is typically four to six times the strength of annealed glass and withstands heating in your microwave oven. However, this strength comes with a penalty. Due to the balanced stresses in the glass, damage to the glass will eventually result in the glass shattering into thumbnail sized pieces.

The glass is most susceptible to breakage due to damage to the edge of the glass where the tensile stress is the greatest, but shattering can also occur in the event of a hard impact in the middle of the glass pane. Shattering may not happen when the damage originally occurs and can be triggered by a minor stress like heat or small drop that would not normally affect the toughened glass. If any toughened glass shows any damage it must be replaced.

[More Cowbell]

Let me know when you start dealing solely in bullet proof glass, it's the only way to build a real arcade cabinet. 

Tommy, If I buy two pieces, can you combine shipping?

[ChadTower]

Kdog, yes, you can shatter tempered glass by hitting it in the center.  Regular glass is like that too.

They use tempered glass on pinball machines, vending machines, and jukes.  Probably for a reason.

[tommy]

Let me know when you start dealing solely in bullet proof glass, it's the only way to build a real arcade cabinet. 

Tommy, If I buy two pieces, can you combine shipping?

Yes, like i said in the pm, just add $5 for the added weight.

RayB and whoever feel free to post and ask questions or make comments (not that i need to give you permission), i just didn't want chad or anyone to turn this into a politics section type discussion as i felt it might be leading that way.

As for the tempered and not tempered argument, i think we can go around for hours debating what, how and why it is a good idea or not a good idea to have it either way. It can be said because i do not want to temper the glass i offer i am all for not tempering the glass for that reason.

Honestly, when it comes down to glass this size nothing is going to stop it from breaking if you make it break.

[ChadTower]

Or we could just all relax and agree that tommy is not selling tempered glass and therefore further discussion on it is irrelevant.

If people want tempered glass, go elsewhere.  If they want inexpensive regular glass, buy it from tommy.  It's not a bad deal.

[tommy]

I'd like to start offering 1/4 lexan if anyone is interested, for now i will only offer clear and see how much interest there is.

Also there will be no breakage going with plastic. The cost will be $65.00 plus shipping on lexan.

Payment must be in the form of a money order though, i think i have done enough good trades here so buyers have no risk in that payment method with me.

Thanks.

[Donkey_Kong]

Tommy-

Are you having success delivering the glass?...I know you had mentioned 1 piece broke. Still interested in the bronze! Is that color still Available?

Thanks!

Oh yea, are you using the FRAGILE STICKERS & HANDLE WITH CARE ?? In my experience it seems as though when those labels are present the package is all but destroyed, like the delivery guys really have at it when it has the warnings you know!

[USSEnterprise]

Kdog, yes, you can shatter tempered glass by hitting it in the center.  Regular glass is like that too.

They use tempered glass on pinball machines, vending machines, and jukes.  Probably for a reason.

I have nothing to say, I accidentally posted this

[Donkey_Kong]

Tommy is MIA   

[tommy]

My internet connection was down for a few days so i was not able to get on.

I have not shipped anymore real glass since the first package arrived broken, i have shipped lexan since then and i will let you all know how that works out, I may just end up having to offer lexan glass.

[werejag]

can trapizoids shapes be made of your glass?

[tommy]

can trapizoids shapes be made of your glass?

Sure. I will need a pattern sent to duplicate it.

It will also cost some more depending on the size and other details.

[SodaPopinksi]

Received the lexan the other day, arrived perfect, thanks again! Will update my project post in the near future, 

[tommy]

Received the lexan the other day, arrived perfect, thanks again! Will update my project post in the near future, 

I'm glad everything worked out well, take care.

[tommy]

***I'm going to be offering Nintendo Wii custom made glass cases and will have some pics later tonight. I have mine in it now and i think it looks pretty cool.

The front of the glass case will be open as well as the back for air to pass through, it will be mostly made so you can stand up the Wii with the stand it comes with but really could be used anyway you like.

There will not be any problems with this case being damaged during shipping this time around. I can package a small glass case alot easier than a large glass sheet.

Price will be set at $35.00 plus shipping. Pictures will be on here shortly.

[tommy]

Let me know what you think either way.

I was thinking of angling the top to match the down slope of the console in the next run.


The other way is flat but the glass in the pic is too wide due to the console not being upright and the Wii stand space accounted for.

[Level42]

Tommy,

May I ask how you package the sheet glass before sending it ? I am asking this because someone in Texas has a Galaxian bezel glass that I need for my Galaxian cab. However, transport is very risky since I'm in The Netherlands.  So there's no re-sending another one on this one if it gets broken.

I was thinking of a wooden frame around the glass, thick enough to put styrofoam on both sides of the glass (so that it will distribute any pressure) and then covering the frame on both sides with a tri-plex sheet.

Do you think this would be sturdy enough ?

The sheet is about 21" square ?

About the bronze sheets: these colors are only noticed in the beginning mostly. The human brain adjusts to accept the colors as they are and won't notice after a while. My personal taste is still without color but I can imagine applications where bronze would be better.

[tommy]

A wooden crate made especially for the piece of glass would be a good idea, for anyone who would possibly buy glass from me, that sort of packaging would cost way too much.

I'm only sending Lucite and lexan now, maybe you might want to consider that type of glass as it will not break.

[Timoe]

why does the Wii need a case?  wont it get too hot in there?

[tommy]

why does the Wii need a case?  wont it get too hot in there?

It keeps the dust off of the console and prevents dust build up on the console fan and from getting into the inside. (mostly)

It is not needed but i like the look of the case and want to protect the console as much as i can.

I thought i would offer it to anyone who wanted something different from anything they could buy anywhere else

It does not get any hotter in there then it would in an entertainment center or even out in the open..

[Barry Barcrest]

It does not get any hotter in there then it would in an entertainment center or even out in the open..

That cannot be true as you are cutting down the amount of free air circulating around the console. In prolonged use your cased console would be hotter than one in the open, no debate needed on that it's fact. As to the damage caused by the extra heat Vs the dust contamination is uncertain.

[tommy]

The front and back of the case are wide open with no glass on it, it's not locked in a perfectly air-tight case with no chance to breathe.

I have a small fan blowing back to front where my Wii is setup just for good measure.

[mccoy178]

Does the case come with the fan?

[tommy]

Does the case come with the fan?

It does not.

I can say though, since i have my Wii in the case i have noticed alot of dust building up on top of the glass case, the Wii is as clean as the day i first opened it.

I won't be offering the case soon if i see no interest as I've seen so far.

Thanks for commenting.

[ChadTower]

How long before tommy chucks his controller through it?   

[blueznl]

I've seen windows in doors shatter in data centres (supposed to be kept at a continuous temperature all the time)... spontaneously. So yes, it does happen.

[tommy]

Glass is no longer available. Once again, please delete this.