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jjd:

--- Quote from: screaming on September 03, 2006, 12:11:17 am ---Does anyone use ultrastyle?  I've seen it advertised here before for its 3d capabilities, but that's all I know about it.

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I used to use it and loved it.  The problem, however, is that it does not support emulators other than MAME. 

If someone could add support for other emulators and nested menus (wheels) it could be a very good FE. 

loadman:

--- Quote from: unclet on September 08, 2006, 07:16:46 am ---LISP ..... yes .... learned that a long time ago ..... it is an artificial intelligence language.    I have not worked with it in years though ....   I remember making a Connect-4 game (kind of like tic-tac-toe game but you need 4 in a row) with that language which allowed the computer to play against a human being.

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I had to learn this the hard way. No documentation, just trail and error and sifting through other examples. It is used where I work at an Australian TV station to convert on air schedules (comma seperated data) on a UNIX based automation system

Sorry if I have hijacked this thread  :(

Minwah:

--- Quote from: youki on September 08, 2006, 04:08:48 am ---VB is considered as a Toy by most of professionnal i know. (version <= VB6) .  I think it is a toy too. At the end of 90's  , i have lot of worked with VB  ,  Projects manager was thinking it will be more fast to develop with VB.   We had so much problem and limitation at all the level with it , that a big parts of project has been migrated to other technology.

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I don't deny people think this way, nor do I believe VB6 is the 'best' language.  However I will stick my neck out and say you can do practically *anything* in VB.  I mean one guy wrote a working C64 emulator for example.  And with access to DirectX and limitless controls etc., you can do whatever you like.

The real issue is speed....in programs where speed is vital.  In something like a FE though, particularly on modern PC's, VB6 still cuts the mustard.  As an example, the backend of Mamewah is essentially 5 years old, and certainly not the most optimised thing in the world...but (the last time I checked) things like list generation and filtering are still quicker than some of the newer FE's (not coded in VB6) :)

Howard_Casto:
Agreed.  Since we are talking smack about oses the only real difference between vb and visual c is to do something in vb it takes one line and to do the same thing in c it takes 5 lines and at least three lines of declarations.  There is literally nothing you can't do in vb that you can do in C.  Mind you every once in a while you have to do something a little crazy to get access to a certain library, but other than that it basically is c++ minus the redundant syntax. 

I think you guys think I don't know other langauges, I've actually taken courses (and aced courses) in everything from quick basic to java.  There is a reason I use vb for almost everything.  It's like minwah said, it's really good for rapid development as long as speed isn't a major concern.  Speed really isn't a concern anyway, unless you are making some kind of high-end direct-x fps in vb or something crazy like that.


I say use what you want, but vb is a toy like a computer is a toy to your grandparents.  They only say that because they've never used it to it's fullest potential. 

Buddabing:
Well, there's the cross-platform and cross-OS considerations.

I don't know if there are Visual Basic compilers for Linux or Macintosh, but there certainly are for C, C++, and Java.

I would not want to attempt a cross-platform project in VB, or any other kind of basic for that matter.

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