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Another layout question
Animeka:
Not offended at all.. My problem is with putting the 2 8ways in front, the player 2 joystick is always in the way for the trackball...
As for left handed player, I don't have any left handed friends, and I'm building this for me and my son mostly so :P
CP is narrow, and worked well for 2 8 ways as the original panel shows... I saw the Arcadeus panel and loved the design, 2 8 way setups, with a trackball in between, and the 4 way/spinner/buttons set at the top looks great. But I dont have the space for the trackball... Hmmm...
The layout I did works well by the way, the 4way and spinner arent in the way at all when playing... Since your forearms are sort of angled when playing, they fall in between...
I'll try moving the 8 ways down again :)
I'm running out of cardboard :laugh2:
Marc
unclet:
Well it just seems like if you increase the depth of the control panel (like my picture) then the trackball can be moved to the front a bit more which will give you the space between your joysticks, so your forearm does not slam into the P2 joystick when spinning the trackball fast.
Anyway, if it suits your needs, then do not listen to me.
I just wanted you to realize that a lot of original arcade cabinets do not have joysticks that far back and neither do many of the cabinets which people make in this forum, although that does not mean it is wrong..... I am just throwing out ideas so you can make a final decision knowing everything prior to cutting anything :)
Animeka:
--- Quote from: unclet on July 29, 2006, 12:10:19 am ---Well it just seems like if you increase the depth of the control panel (like my picture) then the trackball can be moved to the front a bit more which will give you the space between your joysticks, so your forearm does not slam into the P2 joystick when spinning the trackball fast.
Anyway, if it suits your needs, then do not listen to me.
I just wanted you to realize that a lot of original arcade cabinets do not have joysticks that far back and neither do many of the cabinets which people make in this forum, although that does not mean it is wrong..... I am just throwing out ideas so you can make a final decision knowing everything prior to cutting anything :)
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You don't need to defend your opinions :) I embrace them with an open mind. That's why I posted here :) My responses are mostly to explain why I took the paths I did...
It did look odd when I designed it, but after doing the mock up, it's very playable, and nothing's in the way... I would love to fit the tball between the 2 8 ways like most people do, but I'd have to compromise somewhere (cutting the cabinet=NO, larger panel=last resort)
Here's another template, based on suggestions from you :)
I widened the part that sticks out of the cabinet (by about 1" on each side) and I moved the 8 ways in front...
unclet:
I am assuming the blue circle is still the spinner and not a fourth joystick ... right.
Anyway, the layout is better however, the reason why people put the trackball in front is so when they spin it hard then their hand does not slam into the monitor glass. I would "think" your trackball is too high to really spin. I understand two players might be playing at one time, but I would think that "most of the time" that one player will be playing on the cabinet. If you agree with this statement, then perhaps a compromise is to swap the trackball and P2 joystick. This will allow for the trackball to be up front and allow the P1 joystick to be positioned nearer the front (which is most common).
Check out the picture I attached
- I swapped trackball and P2 joystick
- I do not like admin buttons right in the middle, so moved those up top
- Added a couple of trackball (right\left mouse click) buttons to the right of the trackball so you can use the trackball like a mouse.
- Not sure I would recommend having 7 buttons for each joystick on such a small panel which also includes a trackball and spinner .... hwoever I left them on. You might want to think about going with straight 6 buttons on either side since this will save you move space .
- When P2 is using the joystick, then the forearm still has space to rest on the control panel without hitting anything.
- Not sure what the other two buttons were suppose to be, night I moved those up top as well...
- Added more space between the 4-way joystick and spinner
Animeka:
--- Quote from: unclet on July 29, 2006, 09:32:09 am ---I am assuming the blue circle is still the spinner and not a fourth joystick ... right.
Anyway, the layout is better however, the reason why people put the trackball in front is so when they spin it hard then their hand does not slam into the monitor glass. I would "think" your trackball is too high to really spin. I understand two players might be playing at one time, but I would think that "most of the time" that one player will be playing on the cabinet. If you agree with this statement, then perhaps a compromise is to swap the trackball and P2 joystick. This will allow for the trackball to be up front and allow the P1 joystick to be positioned nearer the front (which is most common).
Check out the picture I attached
- I swapped trackball and P2 joystick
- I do not like admin buttons right in the middle, so moved those up top
- Added a couple of trackball (right\left mouse click) buttons to the right of the trackball so you can use the trackball like a mouse.
- Not sure I would recommend having 7 buttons for each joystick on such a small panel which also includes a trackball and spinner .... hwoever I left them on. You might want to think about going with straight 6 buttons on either side since this will save you move space .
- When P2 is using the joystick, then the forearm still has space to rest on the control panel without hitting anything.
- Not sure what the other two buttons were suppose to be, night I moved those up top as well...
- Added more space between the 4-way joystick and spinner
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There are no admin buttons on the CP... The 3 atari cones are for the trackball (missile command).
The extra 2 buttons are for the 4 way config, seen a few panels like that... Jump/Fire or whatnot.. ;)
The blue stick is the spinner as you thought.
The 7 buttons set, you're right, I never really used the 7th, but I like having the neo geo pattern combined with the double rows for fighting games...
This thread might become very informative for people wanting to design panels :) Sounds like we're coming up with all the pros and cons for everything eheheheh
Marc
P1 stick is in the way for the 4way in this layout I think
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