New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable

[brophog]

more sales, even though its more expensive shows youu its better quality

Not even close. Are you perhaps new to America? Here, sales are generated mostly by marketing and price. Quality is a distant third.

[alexandro98]

more sales, even though its more expensive shows youu its better quality

Not even close. Are you perhaps new to America? Here, sales are generated mostly by marketing and price. Quality is a distant third.

Sigh, aint that the truth.  Just take a look at wally world err ... walmart.

[freddykreuger666]

dudes just by buying a mario game or zelda game is being a fanboy
cos mario has been the same since the nes
he aint changed, neither has his games
u all just feel u HAVE to buy his games, even tho u've grown out of em
zelda and mario are like pokemon or teletubbies or wotever
u watch em till a certain age, then get too old and move onto something for ur own age
mario is for 12 years max, childish humour, easy gameplay + same characters over and over again , thats what kids love
aint my fault nintendo are too pikey to afford marketing

[mccoy178]

So, let me get this straight.  You get shutdown in one direction, when you tried to use the numbers game, and now you are going with the "what is cooler" approach?  Pick an attack and stick with it.  BTW, I didn't know you could use the internet at school.  Your 8th grade teacher is going to be upset.

[freddykreuger666]

being a kid is way better then being an adult
anyways ur all nintendo fanboys here cos ur all against playstation
all the modern nintendo consoles have been wiped out by playstation
cos its new, fresh and dont include the same old crap nintendo characters that have been re-made to death

[Zakk]

Well as long as you fight for a cause that is worthwhile, everything is right in the world.

Now shoo, mommy is calling you for dinner, cool kid.

[brophog]

anyways ur all nintendo fanboys here cos ur all against playstation
all the modern nintendo consoles have been wiped out by playstation
cos its new, fresh and dont include the same old crap nintendo characters that have been re-made to death

Why did you choose this thread to post your fight? No one here is being a fanboy but you! You have no cause on this thread or this board. There are plenty of real nintendo fanboys out there........go find them.

As to the playstation's greatness.......if they are so great, how come a company that exclusively makes video games is still alive and well? For nintendo to be "wiped out" that would mean they were no longer in business. Of course, that isn't true.

As to the new and fresh comment.....see previous posts. Playstation hasn't done anything new and fresh. They're copycats.

[shmokes]

C'mon, Sony has innovated lots.  First console with a DVD drive, Eyetoy, pressure sensitive buttons, Gran Turismo, God of War, NFL Gameday (great at one time), first 3D console, didn't rape developers with licensing/manufacturing fees (which is how they stole the market from Nintendo).  They have also had a significantly better library of games than Nintendo for the past two generations due to FAR superior third party support.

Clearly Freddy is a moron and masochistically refuses to play most of the greatest games ever made out of unreasonable loyalty to a company that he is not employed by, but y'all should take care that you don't start sounding like him.

And you gotta admit, his bizarre habit of structuring his posts as though they were poetry is pretty ---smurfing--- hillarious.

[freddykreuger666]

a working adult playing a video game - pathetic
an adult playing a nintendo game - now thats pathetic
playstation is makes so much different varied games
anyways why u bad mouthing kids, they have more fun and less stress
just cos u jealous of their easy life
a fanboy is basically a person that HAS to buy a mario/zelda game
cos these are the only 2 games on nintendo , it makes them a nintendo fanboy.
and who really cares about "structuring a post"
its only a forum, which means it aint a formal business letter damit
who cares how i write, erm not me

[shmokes]

a working adult playing a video game - pathetic

Uh oh, Freddy.  Your loyalty to Sony is faltering.  The majority of Sony's customers ARE working adults.  In fact, how can you simultaneously criticize Nintendo for appealing only to kids while criticizing adults for playing videogames.  Aren't those two things a bit at odds with eachother?

And I fully agree, being a kid IS far superior to being an adult.  In fact, adults pretty much suck.

[pointdablame]

a working adult playing a video game - pathetic

Um.. the average age of game players currently is somewhere in the mid 20's... so no, it isn't pathetic.  You're an idiot.

an adult playing a nintendo game - now thats pathetic

NOT playing a game simply because it's made by Nintendo is retarded.  I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, I'm a fan of GOOD GAMES.  You're pathetic for hating a company so much just because you think they are "not cool"  You're an idiot.

playstation is makes so much different varied games

Compared to Nintendo or Microsoft, how do they make varied games?  Every system has that handful of games that are unique to the system, then they all have fighteres, sims, platformers, racing games, etc etc.  Again, you're an idiot.

anyways why u bad mouthing kids, they have more fun and less stress
just cos u jealous of their easy life

I'm so sure we are all jealous of you... your wonderful use of the english language. You're fantastic debating skills.  You're opnemindedness.  Your tact in responding to people without calling them "poopyheads"  Yeah...we're all real jealous.   Guess what?  You're an idiot.

a fanboy is basically a person that HAS to buy a mario/zelda game
cos these are the only 2 games on nintendo , it makes them a nintendo fanboy.

No.  A fanboy is someone who loves one gaming company and unnecessarily HATES another for silly and childish reasons.  Just like how you hate Nintendo for no good reasons.  Get it through your head... not every Mario game is the same.  Not every Nintendo game is childish.  That is your 12 year old excuse for hating Nintendo and being a total Sony fanboy.  Not one other person in this thread has shown fanboy-ish tendencies besides yourself.  You look like a fool because of it.  oh, and you're an idiot.

and who really cares about "structuring a post"
its only a forum, which means it aint a formal business letter damit
who cares how i write, erm not me

By actually structuring your post, others can read and comprehend it better.  No one likes to read "yo r u 2 cool for mario lik me is?  Coz I are t3h best and so r Sony!!1one!"  Grow up.


.....


and you're an idiot.

[shmokes]

Speaking of Pit, didn't Samus appear for the first time on a next-gen system in Super Smash Bros., shortly before Metroid Prime came out?  Is this a harbinger of things to come?  Are we about to see a new Kid Icaris?  Something tells me the answer to that question is yes.

[pointdablame]

Speaking of Pit, didn't Samus appear for the first time on a next-gen system in Super Smash Bros., shortly before Metroid Prime came out?  Is this a harbinger of things to come?  Are we about to see a new Kid Icaris?  Something tells me the answer to that question is yes.

On a similar vein, I hope Nintendo starts integrating older games with new Wii games.  Buy the new Kid Icarus and get the old game for their virtual console.  New Metroid Prime?  You get Super Metroid for SNES with it.

I think its a good idea anyway

[brophog]

C'mon, Sony has innovated lots.  First console with a DVD drive, Eyetoy, pressure sensitive buttons, Gran Turismo, God of War, NFL Gameday (great at one time), first 3D console, didn't rape developers with licensing/manufacturing fees (which is how they stole the market from Nintendo). 

They haven't innovated a fraction of what they've stolen, and what little they have innovated has had a fraction of the impact on the gaming world as what they've stolen........

[Zakk]

anyways why u bad mouthing kids, they have more fun and less stress
just cos u jealous of their easy life

Hate to buy you a clue fella (but I'm sure it's not allowance day yet), but we aren't bad mouthing kids, in fact, I like my 4 quite well.  What we ARE badmouthing is YOU.   

If it makes you feel better, my 2 year old thinks you are quite intelligent.  Seems like your posts are the only ones he can understand. 

[horseboy]

anyways why u bad mouthing kids, they have more fun and less stress
just cos u jealous of their easy life

Actually Freddy, we are jealous because we had to go to school at a time when you couldn't even get out of elementary school with grammar like yours.

Idiot.

[freddykreuger666]

dude, grammar dont matter for a damn forum
its only a forum and thats it
rename this forum to nintendobumrapists.com
cos im surrounded by em
average age of gamers is definetely lower then mid 20's
maybe thats just crappy america for ya where adults play videogames cos they got no social life. when i went america for holiday there wasnt even a nightlife at all, was boring after theme parks, not suprised u have to play childish nintendo games
think about it - all nintendo games except a few they nicked off other consoles, have little to no difficulty
pointdablame how am i an idiot, cant spell openmindedness?
bet u were bullied as a kid, thats why u didnt like ur child years
i understand, thats why ur so obsessed with proving every 1 wrong
zakk u actually laughed at ur own joke, thats pathetic, cos it just wasnt funny

[horseboy]

maybe thats just crappy america for ya where adults play videogames cos they got no social life. when i went america for holiday there wasnt even a nightlife at all, was boring after theme parks, not suprised u have to play childish nintendo games

What kind of nightlife could you possibly have when you are a 13 year old with the mind of a 7 year old and the grammar of a labrador.

[DaveMMR]

On a similar vein, I hope Nintendo starts integrating older games with new Wii games.  Buy the new Kid Icarus and get the old game for their virtual console.  New Metroid Prime?  You get Super Metroid for SNES with it.

I think its a good idea anyway

As long as they don't make people buy a link cable and complete another game for the portable to unlock it ala Metroid Prime. 

rename this forum to nintendobumrapists.com
cos im surrounded by em
average age of gamers is definetely lower then mid 20's
maybe thats just crappy america for ya where adults play videogames cos they got no social life.

Why do you make fun of people who play videogames when you obviously play them yourself?  Most people who don't like videogames wouldn't be spending all their time talking about how much better the PS is than the Wii.  They wouldn't even care.

Secondly, spelling and grammer is important on the internet - even if only fo-net-ick-lee.  The way you type is the text equivlant of giving a speech with an apple crammed in your mouth.

By the way, I have a friend who types exactly like you on the internet and also gets defensive when people call him on it.  He sounds like he's 12.  He's actually a 22-year old graduate student.  Ridicuolous.  Why spend all that money on higher education when you can't even grasp the basics of a second grade one.

On another topic - I saw the trailer for the new SSB and now I definately want a Wii, despite Freddy's objections.  Gotta love them bumrapers.

[horseboy]

average age of gamers is definetely lower then mid 20's

Well according to Wikipedia the average is 30
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game

Same with the Entertainment Software Association
http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php
Wow, and 19% of them are over 50.

But who really knows? They just did some silly scientific research. That simply can't be as accurate as Freddy's uneducated guess.

Oh, and thanks Freddy. It took me 20 minutes to clean the sh*t off of that quote because you pulled it out of your ass.

[shmokes]

Freddy, maybe this will suit you better.  It's a BBC (That's a British news organization in case you are too young to know anything) article about a study done by the European Leisure Software Publishers Association that says that:

". . . the average age of the keenest players is gradually edging upwards.

The results of the survey revealed that the largest game-playing group is actually aged between 25 and 34. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1918554.stm

The article goes on to say that:

" Allied research carried out by the games magazine PC Zone found that these ageing, avid players are typically in the top social groups, have an average annual income of about

[freddykreuger666]

dude u put so much effort into proving me wrong
making yourself feel mature its getting pathetic
nobody believes that survey crap, cos only mature adults are bothered to take part in it, like you of course
how come all adults think they're really clever, basically take it as this -
i got 70 odd years to live, you got what 40?
bet you use spellcheck feature to write ur forums posts
and get your kids to check it over for grammar mistakes

[Luxury]

I keep wondering why you always say Nintento are ass/bum rapists.  When in fact they only analy raped me on 3 occasions. 

Let me clear up something else for you my dear sir.  Nintendo makes Nintendo games, Sony makes Sony games, Microsoft makes Microsoft games.  These are called "First Party".  Nintendo includes all the games you have previously mentioned like Mario, Zelda, Metroid and countless others.  Sony makes Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Gran Turismo, and a few others.  Microsoft  - well I'm not going to get into them because this thread only seems to deal with Nintendo and Sony.

Now we have something called "Third Party".  These are the Konami's, Namco's, Capcom's, Square-Enix's, EA's, Activision's and more.  They release games for damn near every console depending on different factors. 

Now lets compare the differences of the 2.  You say that Nintendo only releases the same Mario game over and over.  Well guess what?  There have been 6 Jak and Daxter games in the last 5 years alone.  There have been 4 (i think) Ratchet and Clanks, 4 Gran Turismos.  And that's just Sony.  Let me spell it out for you - they are doing the exact same thing Nintendo is doing!  Release the same games over and over!  Now lets look at the third party developers.  Firstly - your beloved Konami - makers of Metal Gear Solid (what started this entire argument if I recall).  They have released at least 10 that I can think of off the top of my head Metal Gear games.  That's essentially the SAME GAME OVER AND OVER - or as we in the adult world call "sequels".  Every publisher on that list above is guilty of it to a massive degree.  Capcom?  Just take a look at how many Megaman games there are.  EA?  New sports games every year exactly like the year before it.  S-E?  Ever heard of Final Fantasy?  Yes they are up to 13, but count in all the remakes, handheld ports and everything and I would bet that they are hovering around 100 different Final Fantasy iterations.  Take-Two?  How many GTA's have they released in the last 5 years?  Nobody is above sequels. 

You starting to see the error in your ways?  I doubt it.  That would take an attention span of more than 3 seconds.  And judging by your posts, I would say yours only goes to 2. 

[horseboy]

Firstly - your beloved Konami - makers of Metal Gear Solid (what started this entire argument if I recall).  They have released at least 10 that I can think of off the top of my head Metal Gear games.

13 actually. I counted.

Oh and btw Freddy, you are an idiot.

[Zakk]

Freddy, I spanked yur mom today for making you so stupid.  However, she really seemed to like it, so I guess that was a bad idea.  Now I have to buy her a carton of cigs.

You know why we all learned how to red and writ good?  So that we can understand warning sings on things.  I'd say with your level of education you'll be killed long before your expectancy of 70 years.  Like the tiny print on the paint can that says "can be fatal if inhaled".  I'm BETTING you missed that one.

I'll call you sniffy from now on.  Tell me, is the gold paint really better?

[freddykreuger666]

the mum jokes gonna start happening hey?
thought only little kids say pathetic stuff like that
well i start u off - your mums so fat that she aint as pathetic as u to start slagging off peoples mums
absolutely pathetic dude
just cause your living in america you know i cant go round their and smash your cars up and stuff, you would never slag anyone off to their face, cos u know you'll get battered
anyways - 13 games? please try harder to prove your or someone elses point
ur wife like a bowling ball, finger her twice and throw her down a dark alley and she still comes back for more

[pointdablame]

pointdablame how am i an idiot, cant spell openmindedness?
bet u were bullied as a kid, thats why u didnt like ur child years
i understand, thats why ur so obsessed with proving every 1 wrong
zakk u actually laughed at ur own joke, thats pathetic, cos it just wasnt funny

actually, I had a wonderful childhood, and I'm only 22, so it's just barely ended.  And I'm not obsessed with proving people wrong.  I just hate when idiots like yourself come in here and start flame wars with absolutely NO FACT.  I tell you for a fact that the average age of gamers is 25+ years old, and then you go and say "nuh uh, you is stoopid, only kids play games"   Then people post links to surveys and studies about it and you say you can't trust them?  WHY?   why exactly are the surveys wrong?  They are based on worldwide sales, registration info for games, and people being asked in person for the info.  It is NOT only based on adults, and it is not "pathetic"   You are an absolute moron and you have yet to put any fact into your argument.

All you do is come in and say we are all Nintendo assbumrapewhores, or whatever the hell you try to spell in your 8th grade engrish.

Again, why are we Nintendo fanboys?  Explain it for me.... I want you to tell us why?   The fact that someone owns a Nintendo system does not make them a fanboy.. neither does liking Mario games.   As I said 3 times now, but you are too ignorant to read, no one else in this thread has shown fanboy tendencies but yourself.

Most normal people understand that game systems all have pros and cons, and good games and bad games.  There will also always be first party games that you will only get with those respective systems.  You don't like Nintendo.. we get it.   That doesn't make Sony better.   You need to learn to debate with some fact, instead of spouting insults at people and just saying "no you are wrong" when people prove you are an idiot with cold hard facts.

[freddykreuger666]

its because solid snake was the playstations signature character basically.
and ssb is nintendos "classic nintendo character game"
and they've used the popularity of solid snake and put him in their nintendo game. Even though he is an obvious playstation character

[brophog]

So because we're educated to know differently, we somehow worship the ground Nintendo walks on?

 

[Luxury]

its because solid snake was the playstations signature character basically.
and ssb is nintendos "classic nintendo character game"
and they've used the popularity of solid snake and put him in their nintendo game. Even though he is an obvious playstation character

We've been over this already!  We have covered this point you are trying to make.  And I'm sorry to inform you - you lost the first time, so do you really want to lose a second time?

I highly recommend you walk away from this thread right now.  I'd hate for you to get banned for this little fiasco before you need our help to actually BYOAC - for what you mentioned you need help with.

[missioncontrol]

a working adult playing a video game - pathetic
an adult playing a nintendo game - now thats pathetic

hey 

being a snotty nosed spoiled brat is pathetic

parents raising such a kid are pathetic

[PCtech]

 

[Harry Potter]

I'm getting vertigo from this shite

Myself I actually think the SNES is the coolest console ever made (And mebby the Megadrive as well) and I would never buy a PS2 or XBOX because those styles of games don't interest me much (Besides, I can get most of em for PC).

But there is no way in hell I'd berate someone for favouring one console over the other in such a childish and hissy-fit way. Get some more meds, go back to playing your Nintendo 66 and leave the game related talk to us grownups.

There's a good lad.

[markrvp]

The word, --cream-filled twinkie--, comes to mind in this thread.

[Santoro]

I am stupefied by this abortion of a thread.  Why are we feeding the troll?

[freddykreuger666]

grown-ups think they're so good
maybe its just cos they think their "wise"
u must be obsessed with nintendo if u go into all that trouble to prove me wrong

[horseboy]

Ok, so back to the original arguement then. How exactly is he a playstation character when he was on NES 7+ years before playstation came out? He is on gamecube and gba as well.

As for 13 games:
Metal Gear Solid
MGS 2
MGS 3
MGS: Portable Ops
MGS: Integral
MGS: VR Missions
MGS: Special Missions
MGS2: Substance
MGS: The Twin Snakes
MGS3: Subsistence
Metal Gear Ghost Babel
Metal Gear Acid
Metal Gear Acid 2

Also:
The Document of MGS 2
MGS: Digital Graphic Novel

Still to come:
MGS: 4

You see little Freddy, we big boys can back up what we say with concrete fact. Your fact comes straight from your ass. I guess that makes sense, though, because I know your head also resides there.