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Bribery for new Mame feature "Shifter Toggle" Help...
RetroBorg:
Why not just use one these type of shifters?
Makes switch contact in low and high position and returns to center .
Mario:
--- Quote from: RetroBorg on January 23, 2006, 10:13:26 pm ---Why not just use one these type of shifters?
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Makes switch contact in low and high position and returns to center .
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This is exactly the type of shifter I'd prefer to use. I mentioned this in a thread a long time ago (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=29658.0). With a return-to-center type of shifter, any game can be supported. And if this was supported, you wouldn't even need this special type of controller. You could just use a standard joystick. A cheap solution if one desired it. Is this currently supported in MAME? I haven't been keeping myself up-to-date.
What I'd like to see is a config option for MAME which tells MAME what type of shifter you have installed, and then MAME can adjust itself accordingly.
Mario
RobotronNut:
--- Quote from: Mario on January 23, 2006, 11:20:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: RetroBorg on January 23, 2006, 10:13:26 pm ---Why not just use one these type of shifters?
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Makes switch contact in low and high position and returns to center .
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This is exactly the type of shifter I'd prefer to use.
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you wouldn't even need this special type of controller. You could just use a standard joystick.
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for 2-gear games, a regular joystick should work, and for 4-gear games, a 4-way-restricted joystick mounted in Qbert orientation might work nicely. these sticks would return to center, so all contact would be momentary. they would thus play nicely with mame, as currently implemented, and with front ends.
the feel of return-to-center sticks would be quite different from the feel of stay-in-place sticks. how this works out in actual game play is probably a matter of personal taste.
Xiaou2:
Thats the issue. These games do not feel right using the momentary type of shifter.
Some people may find them ok.. but I persoanlly, and Im sure many others would agree that they stink comparitively.
Thanks ahofle. Please post on mame site to add weight to the post :)
As for the programming comment.. my brain is limited in such a complex capacity. Sometimes I wish it werent like that.. but. we all have our strenghts and weaknesses.. and programming is beyond my capability.
Minwah:
--- Quote from: PetitMorte on January 23, 2006, 02:22:14 pm ---How about this for a solution... Connect both the NO AND the NC connectors from the switch to the key input.
That way it sends a signal when the switch is pressed, and stops and then sends it again when it is released.
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This should work, as long as there is a moment of 'off' between NO & NC. And the shifter would work in either position at startup, but it might not match the hi/lo labelling of the shifter itself (not the end of the world, but a bit irritating).
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