Unpatriotic

[markrvp]

Jon Stewart was more effective when he was just making fun of the news and politics.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Jon Stewart was more effective when he was just making fun of the news and politics.  Now he thinks he is important, that he IS a story, and has become exactly what he started out caricaturing.

How so? I don't see him overshadowing anything. I think he *is* a huge draw for the show though. People like him, and he's got great timing. Some of the funniest skits I've seen on there have been ones created within the past few months. The gas gouge/Humvee spoof, the Porn Demographic report...those are classic!


Colbert, on the other hand, seems to have gotten full of himself, but it fits with the character he's got going - so it may work for him. "The Report" is funny from time to time, but it still needs to find it's legs. The O'Reilly spoof can only last for so long.


mrC

[ChadTower]

How so? I don't see him overshadowing anything. I think he *is* a huge draw for the show though. People like him, and he's got great timing. Some of the funniest skits I've seen on there have been ones created within the past few months. The gas gouge/Humvee spoof, the Porn Demographic report...those are classic!

I didn't say he was overshadowing anything.  I said he thinks he IS a politician and a story now.  Going on Crossfire is a perfect example.  Why should a simple spoof comedian be on Crossfire?  He went in there thinking he was important, someone who belongs making the political show rounds, and tried to upstage their show.  That is the exactly the type of thing he would have made fun of when he first got there.

[Zero_Hour]

He was invited on Crossfire to promote a book. If you watch the whole piece they even begin to talk about said book. The discussion turned, and Stewart ran with it, taking the opportunity to point out what many people believe to be real flaws with the manner in which "debate" is conducted in the media these days. He did not try to upstage the show, he in fact DID upstage the show. Though I do not believe it was premeditated, it is possible it was. If that's the case then Stewart is smarter than any of folks working at CNN.

And why can't a comedian be on Crossfire? I would think a man who makes his money observing politics for a living as a smart choice for a guest.

[DrewKaree]

And why can't a comedian be on Crossfire? I would think a man who makes his money observing politics for a living as a smart choice for a guest.

Lewis Black woulda been a better choice.

[ChadTower]

He was invited on Crossfire to promote a book.

The Book - Step 1 in becoming self important.
The Appearances - Step 2
The Being Unruly and Getting His Appearance Mentioned On Other Shows - Step 3

They all follow that procedure.

[Scott84]

It can also be pronounced re

[mr.Curmudgeon]

I said he thinks he IS a politician and a story now.

Oh no...actor who thinks he's a politician! It's not like that hasn't happened before *cough* Reagan *cough* Schwarzenegger *cough*

What's your point? He can't do both? Be funny *and* pretend to be a politician?

That is the exactly the type of thing he would have made fun of when he first got there.

If someone had the balls to go on CNN and ask them why they aren't doing their jobs as objective journalists, I'm sure he wouldn't have made fun of that.


mrC

[ChadTower]

What's your point? He can't do both? Be funny *and* pretend to be a politician?

Apparently not, since when he decided to be a politician he seemingly lost the ability to be funny.  Self consciousness and premeditation tend to do that to a comedian.

If someone had the balls to go on CNN and ask them why they aren't doing their jobs as objective journalists, I'm sure he wouldn't have made fun of that.

Objective journalism is dead and is not the job of anyone on CNN.

[Zero_Hour]

He was invited on Crossfire to promote a book.

The Book - Step 1 in becoming self important.
The Appearances - Step 2
The Being Unruly and Getting His Appearance Mentioned On Other Shows - Step 3

They all follow that procedure.

1. The Book was written by the staff (and others I assume) from the Daily Show - it was not "His" Book.

2. Has not nearly as much to do with Self Importance as it does marketing.

3. Did you watch the show? His behavior can hardly be considered unruly especially compared with many other guests I've seen on Crossfire in the past.

As for having it on other shows? I've heard and seen it on the net far more than I saw any sustained covereage of it on television. Various Media oriented sites, as well as numerous personal and political blogs.

If Stewart feels self important, it might be more likely due to the nice fat contract he got the last time The Daily Show was renewed, as opposed to the Crossfire appearance. Crossfires' ratings  were such, that no guest should have ever felt self important for being invited.

And what office is He currently running for? Until he actually throws his hat in the ring for something, the Politician label just doesnt hold true.

If you don't like his comedy, that's fine by me, but I don't see where he is doing anything differently now than when he first sat down at that desk. Political Humor is most often driven by the Parties and Persons in power. I'm sure that The Daily Show would love to throw some Clinton jokes in there, but they would feel a little stale right about now, don't you think?

[ChadTower]

And what office is He currently running for? Until he actually throws his hat in the ring for something, the Politician label just doesnt hold true.

Politician.

Politicians are not limited to elected offices.

[Zero_Hour]

I suspect we will disagree on this, but I personally feel he does not fit any of those definitions.

[jbox]

One who seeks personal or partisan gain

So who, aside from Monks, is *not* a politician?