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tabbed browsing in IE
« on: June 09, 2005, 06:09:12 pm »
I tried it, it's buggy, will stick with firefox yet.

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2005, 08:05:59 pm »
same here ,im very happy with my firefox..
bill gates would personally have to lick my taint before i went back to  any prodginy of IE.  ;D
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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 08:13:04 pm »
i like avant browser

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 09:19:43 pm »
maxthon for me...
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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2005, 09:24:49 am »
Firefox.

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2005, 09:37:10 am »
firefox 4 rizzl

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2005, 11:30:36 am »
Firebird for me  ;)

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2005, 11:46:51 am »
has anyone else tried the IE tabbed browsing?

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2005, 11:54:22 am »
With 90% of the browser viruses wrote for IE I think I will stick with Firefox a little longer.

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2005, 12:05:24 pm »
bill gates would personally have to lick my taint before i went back to  any prodginy of IE.  ;D

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2005, 12:30:41 pm »
With 90% of the browser viruses wrote for IE I think I will stick with Firefox a little longer.

Bingo. If IE had tabbed browsing and Firefox didn't, I'd still use Firefox for that reason. I'm actually a little disappointed that every popular computing website is recommending people use it. As Firefox gets more mainstream, more and more crap is going to be aimed at exploiting it. I've already noticed I'll occasionally go to a web page that has figured out how to circumvent the Firefox popup blocker. That used to never happen.

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2005, 02:08:54 pm »
Well, there are some sites that I need to use IE for too.  Like usbank.  Their online banking cookie doesn't seem to work right in Firefox.

I've noticed that the only time I really need IE is for secure and shopping sites.  Some shopping carts don't work in firefox.

otherwise I use firefox whenever I can.

Anyway, not point of post.  Has anyone tried the tabbed browsing for IE?

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2005, 02:19:42 pm »
I personally haven't given the tabbed IE a shot yet but I might do in future.
Also the only site I have found that doesn't let me use Firefox is, Drum Roll-----


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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2005, 03:14:23 pm »
i use avant browser

will never use IE again.. ever
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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2005, 04:14:15 pm »
maxthon for me...

Ditto


With 90% of the browser viruses wrote for IE I think I will stick with Firefox a little longer.

Bingo. If IE had tabbed browsing and Firefox didn't, I'd still use Firefox for that reason. I'm actually a little disappointed that every popular computing website is recommending people use it. As Firefox gets more mainstream, more and more crap is going to be aimed at exploiting it. I've already noticed I'll occasionally go to a web page that has figured out how to circumvent the Firefox popup blocker. That used to never happen.


Written for WINDOWS not IE specificly..

Hate to break it to you IE haters, but its not IE thats the big deal, its the lack of decent ACTIVE X blockers.. If to take a look at Maxthon, youll notice that its IE, with tabs.. and guess what, its not vulnerable.. well not any more or less than firefox/mozilla/nutscrape


and for the record, once this gets out of beta, and goes live.. ill be using IE once again..

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2005, 03:37:33 am »
maxthon for me...

Ditto


With 90% of the browser viruses wrote for IE I think I will stick with Firefox a little longer.

Bingo. If IE had tabbed browsing and Firefox didn't, I'd still use Firefox for that reason. I'm actually a little disappointed that every popular computing website is recommending people use it. As Firefox gets more mainstream, more and more crap is going to be aimed at exploiting it. I've already noticed I'll occasionally go to a web page that has figured out how to circumvent the Firefox popup blocker. That used to never happen.


Written for WINDOWS not IE specificly..

Hate to break it to you IE haters, but its not IE thats the big deal, its the lack of decent ACTIVE X blockers.. If to take a look at Maxthon, youll notice that its IE, with tabs.. and guess what, its not vulnerable.. well not any more or less than firefox/mozilla/nutscrape


and for the record, once this gets out of beta, and goes live.. ill be using IE once again..

Actually, there's a fair # of actual security holes in Internet Explorer that aren't present in alternative browsers.
It is not all about ActiveX(though I could tell that was a security disaster waiting to happen as soon as they announced it).

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2005, 06:07:33 am »
maxthon for me...

Ditto


With 90% of the browser viruses wrote for IE I think I will stick with Firefox a little longer.

Bingo. If IE had tabbed browsing and Firefox didn't, I'd still use Firefox for that reason. I'm actually a little disappointed that every popular computing website is recommending people use it. As Firefox gets more mainstream, more and more crap is going to be aimed at exploiting it. I've already noticed I'll occasionally go to a web page that has figured out how to circumvent the Firefox popup blocker. That used to never happen.


Written for WINDOWS not IE specificly..

Hate to break it to you IE haters, but its not IE thats the big deal, its the lack of decent ACTIVE X blockers.. If to take a look at Maxthon, youll notice that its IE, with tabs.. and guess what, its not vulnerable.. well not any more or less than firefox/mozilla/nutscrape


and for the record, once this gets out of beta, and goes live.. ill be using IE once again..

Actually, there's a fair # of actual security holes in Internet Explorer that aren't present in alternative browsers.
It is not all about ActiveX(though I could tell that was a security disaster waiting to happen as soon as they announced it).

Yet, Maxthon isnt effected..

Sorry, but the 'omgwtfpwn' security holes you speak of, are not as bad as people make them out to be.. and hoestly, they basicly dont exist if you know how to set up your browser..  SP2 fixed alot of browser issues..

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2005, 10:57:48 pm »
I use Opera, I like Firefox as well, but I like the fact that with Opera, I can close the entire program, start it back up next time I come home, and have the option of seeing all the tabs I had open previously without having to open them all back up again.

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2005, 10:59:29 pm »
you can do that with firefox too.  I forgot what the extention was.  Look at the ATOS show notes on g4.com

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2005, 12:30:48 am »
Really?  I will have to look that up, that is my favorite option and if I can do it in FireFox i'll give it another shot.

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2005, 02:48:35 am »
Well, there are some sites that I need to use IE for too.  Like usbank.  Their online banking cookie doesn't seem to work right in Firefox.


US Bank USED to work with Firefox just fine until they recently overhauled their site.  Now it doesn't work with Firefox for Windows.

Just got done installing Linux as a dual boot OS with XP---US Bank website works fine with Firefox on Linux. 

Who knows why...

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2005, 03:41:10 pm »
maxthon for me...

Ditto


With 90% of the browser viruses wrote for IE I think I will stick with Firefox a little longer.

Bingo. If IE had tabbed browsing and Firefox didn't, I'd still use Firefox for that reason. I'm actually a little disappointed that every popular computing website is recommending people use it. As Firefox gets more mainstream, more and more crap is going to be aimed at exploiting it. I've already noticed I'll occasionally go to a web page that has figured out how to circumvent the Firefox popup blocker. That used to never happen.


Written for WINDOWS not IE specificly..

Hate to break it to you IE haters, but its not IE thats the big deal, its the lack of decent ACTIVE X blockers.. If to take a look at Maxthon, youll notice that its IE, with tabs.. and guess what, its not vulnerable.. well not any more or less than firefox/mozilla/nutscrape


and for the record, once this gets out of beta, and goes live.. ill be using IE once again..

Actually, there's a fair # of actual security holes in Internet Explorer that aren't present in alternative browsers.
It is not all about ActiveX(though I could tell that was a security disaster waiting to happen as soon as they announced it).

Yet, Maxthon isnt effected..

Sorry, but the 'omgwtfpwn' security holes you speak of, are not as bad as people make them out to be.. and hoestly, they basicly dont exist if you know how to set up your browser..  SP2 fixed alot of browser issues..
Your arguments cover SOME of them. Not all, by any means.


And I'm going to assume you mean XP Service Pack 2. Which isn't valid for anyone running anything else.
I've got 2 machines up right now. One's on Windows 2000, the other is an old Win98 box.
I don't even OWN a copy of XP, nor do I see a reason to get one in the immediate future.



I COULD make an argument about how f'ing stupid the defaults are and that the need to reconfigure the whole damn browser to make it safe to take onto "teh intarweb" is, in and of itself, a major failing. But it's not really worth it, especially as it's tangental to the real issue.

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2005, 03:45:56 pm »
Maxthon really is an excellent browser. You still get the IE backend but with an enhanced frontend.

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2005, 04:21:55 pm »
Adding tabs and fixing security holes does not by any stretch of the imagination put IE on par with Firefox.  Hell, I think that the ability to search within pages by hitting the forward-slash key is just about as big a breakthrough as tabbed browsing.  So Microsoft releases a pop-up blocking update, and security updates, and now a tabbed browsing update.  They are playing catchup to the innovators.  And at the same time the innovators continue to innovate.  And MS will continue playing catchup.  The fact that you can, with specialized knowledge, tweak IE to make it secure does not put it on the level of other browsers that a secure out-of-the-box.

And hell, there's a thread somewhere in this forum about useful Firefox extensions.  Give it a look sometime.  Firefox can do just about everything but the dishes and laundry.  The number one goal of the developers is to make a browser that is so nice that everyone will want to use it.  Microsoft's strategy is to create an environment where people have to use their software because there is no alternative.  For example, I've got a hotmail account that I've had for about 10 years so it gets TONS of junkmail every day, but it's so old and entrenched that I don't want to give it up as lots of old friends I've lost contact with can still contact me through that email.  So I decided I would upgrade my account to their $20/year service so that I could use it with Mozilla Thunderbird which would take care of the problem with all my junkmail.  Well, guess what.  MS doesn't use POP with Hotmail.  They use a proprietary protocal that does the exact same thing as POP, but will only work with MS Outlook.  So yeah....don't worry that Gmail offers POP for free and also gives 8 times the storage space for free, but I can't use Hotmail with the email client of my choice even if I'm willing to PAY Microsoft. 

The company's strategy across the board is to use their muscle to position themselves in the market to where they can actively stifle innovation and competition. 

Just look at what they did with Internet Explorer!  When Netscape appeared on the scene MS identified it as the most groundbreaking innovation in the computer industry in decades.  They opted to crush Netscape out of existence using any means necessary (including blatently illegal ones).  Once they had done that and had no competition Internet Explorer was allowed to absolutely stagnate.  How long has it been since IE 6 was released?  3 years?  4 years?  MS had basically the only option for internet browsing on the market, and it was full of security holes and had Active X integration with security holes so big that a person could essentially do absolutely anything they wanted to another person's computer by exploiting them, and Microsoft did virtually nothing.  They simply didn't care.

So FINALLY Firefox comes around (from the people who originally invented Netscape) after years and years of total inactivity on Microsoft's part and revolutionizes the web browser.  Fast forward a year or so later, MS releases a pop-up blocker update and a tabbed browser update and we're supposed to be somehow content with this?  This is supposed to satisfy us?

....it may be enough for someone who is incredibly easy to please and has severe short term memory loss, such as Soapboy.  As for me, I'll stick with  Firefox, thanks.
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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2005, 11:54:26 pm »
maxthon for me...

Ditto


With 90% of the browser viruses wrote for IE I think I will stick with Firefox a little longer.

Bingo. If IE had tabbed browsing and Firefox didn't, I'd still use Firefox for that reason. I'm actually a little disappointed that every popular computing website is recommending people use it. As Firefox gets more mainstream, more and more crap is going to be aimed at exploiting it. I've already noticed I'll occasionally go to a web page that has figured out how to circumvent the Firefox popup blocker. That used to never happen.


Written for WINDOWS not IE specificly..

Hate to break it to you IE haters, but its not IE thats the big deal, its the lack of decent ACTIVE X blockers.. If to take a look at Maxthon, youll notice that its IE, with tabs.. and guess what, its not vulnerable.. well not any more or less than firefox/mozilla/nutscrape


and for the record, once this gets out of beta, and goes live.. ill be using IE once again..

Actually, there's a fair # of actual security holes in Internet Explorer that aren't present in alternative browsers.
It is not all about ActiveX(though I could tell that was a security disaster waiting to happen as soon as they announced it).

Yet, Maxthon isnt effected..

Sorry, but the 'omgwtfpwn' security holes you speak of, are not as bad as people make them out to be.. and hoestly, they basicly dont exist if you know how to set up your browser..

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Re: tabbed browsing
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2005, 12:37:20 am »
and yes, SP2, XP, i care about NOTHING other than xp.. why? because thats what i run, my family runs, and anyone within the last 4 years computer ive touched run.. very small minorites of people that just cant "let go" still run old versions of windows..

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2005, 12:40:41 am »
thats full of crap there's nothing wrong with 2000 just cause you ONLY like xp doesn't mean it's the best.

I personally like 2000 xp is ok but it doesn't have anything i need so why should i upgrade when i've got a OS that does the job.


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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2005, 11:47:02 am »
and yes, SP2, XP, i care about NOTHING other than xp.. why? because thats what i run, my family runs, and anyone within the last 4 years computer ive touched run.. very small minorites of people that just cant "let go" still run old versions of windows..

Let go, Move on..

Well, for your main machine yes.

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2005, 12:57:52 pm »
Moving on (upgrading to XP) costs money.  Firefox is free.  Perhaps instead of spending $100 bucks to upgrade to XP and using an inferior web browser (IE) he can just continue using 2000 at no additional cost and just use a superior web browser (firefox).

I agree that XP is a much nicer OS than 2000, and personally I'd just throw a pirated copy of XP on any machine running 2000.  But for those who are unwilling to bite the hand that chokes them, a $100-200 upgrade for something that they don't need is a little hard to swallow. 
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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2005, 01:06:34 pm »
Moving on (upgrading to XP) costs money.

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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2005, 01:11:02 pm »
oh only 100$? buy me one plz


firefox & avant > IE

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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2005, 02:12:53 pm »
oh only 100$? buy me one plz


firefox & avant > IE

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2005, 01:30:43 am »
dont want to upgrade, go linux.. sorry but i cant stand when people just flat out refuse to upgrade the os running on their machines..

its one thing to run an os thats old for something like a mame machine, or file server or something, but for a main machine anything less than XP is a crime..
2K is a quite good operating system, as Windows versions go.
XP doesn't offer enough advantages to be worth the price.
I'll move to XP when I build my next machine. Provided MS has XP 64-bit on store shelves by then.


98 is running on an older box that exists partially for MS-DOS gaming.



Moving on (upgrading to XP) costs money.  Firefox is free.  Perhaps instead of spending $100 bucks to upgrade to XP and using an inferior web browser (IE) he can just continue using 2000 at no additional cost and just use a superior web browser (firefox).

I agree that XP is a much nicer OS than 2000, and personally I'd just throw a pirated copy of XP on any machine running 2000.  But for those who are unwilling to bite the hand that chokes them, a $100-200 upgrade for something that they don't need is a little hard to swallow. 

Its a 100 dollars..

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No, it's 200.
If I WERE going XP now, you can damn well bet it'd be Professional Edition instead of the mess known as Home Edition.

If you're using Home Edition, then 2K is BETTER than XP, absolutely, no questions asked, end of story, etc.

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Re: tabbed browsing in IE
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2005, 10:34:26 am »
dont want to upgrade, go linux.. sorry but i cant stand when people just flat out refuse to upgrade the os running on their machines..

its one thing to run an os thats old for something like a mame machine, or file server or something, but for a main machine anything less than XP is a crime..
2K is a quite good operating system, as Windows versions go.
XP doesn't offer enough advantages to be worth the price.
I'll move to XP when I build my next machine. Provided MS has XP 64-bit on store shelves by then.


98 is running on an older box that exists partially for MS-DOS gaming.



Moving on (upgrading to XP) costs money.

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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2005, 06:05:34 pm »
Soapboy, I said $100-$200.  You rolled your eyes.  Unless I'm mistaken $140, in fact, falls somewhere between $100-$200. 

But all that is fairly beside the point.  Why should he even pay $40 for Windows XP when Windows 2000 is still a secure, stable operating system that will run all the same programs?  Just to get security updates for a crappy web browser?  And if you're going to claim to be an OEM to dishonestly take advantage of discounts that were meant for actual OEMs why not just pirate it outright?  That's what I do.

Instead of spending $140 to upgrade to Win XP, I suggest keeping 2000 and use that money to get a mod chip and $200 GB hard drive for your xbox.  A modded Xbox brings SOOOOO much more joy than Windows XP...

....point being, it's a lot of money.  Windows XP is nice, but nobody running Windows 2000 needs Windows XP.  It's a luxury item for 2000 users. 
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2005, 07:15:34 pm »

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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2005, 07:34:38 pm »
Nonsense.  And anyway, what do you suggest, that he shell out $100 bucks just in case he comes across some one of these alleged programs?  As long as he's happy with 2000, and he has firefox, and he doesn't own any of these Windows XP Only programs what possible reason, besides keepin' up with the Joneses should he upgrade?  I'm a network administrator over a couple of small, 30-60 computer networks.  And I'm a computer geek.  I have never run into one of these programs.

So yeah.  You've got me.  I have a tendency to exaggerate.  I said that 2000 will run all of the same programs as XP when clearly I should have said that 2000 will run 99.9% of the same programs.

My bad.
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« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2005, 08:53:07 am »
wow ive never seen someone come off as such an ---uvula--- until now. shmokes is right, there is no reason that you HAVE TO upgrade to XP, granted i use hacked XP pro on all my computers, my work computer is still on 2000 and it runs everything I need fine.

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« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2005, 02:45:40 pm »
Holy mary jesus, are you on Microsoft's payroll, lmfao?

Yes, i realize AS OF NOW its ok...

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that maybe that is why he is "as of now" continuing to use 2000....

well, when MS drops support, ill be laughing, and youll remember what i said..

Maybe when MS drops support he'll have greater impetus to upgrade...  I'm already laughing. ::)

Read your white pages lately mr administrator? lmfao

LMAO, What the hell are you talking about?  White pages? 
First, the white pages is the phone book. 
And second, no, I don't go around trying to read every white paper released by every major IT company or research institution.  In fact, I've probably read fewer than 10 white papers in my entire life. 
And third when Microsoft decides to stop supporting Windows 2000 they're going to write a press release, not a white paper.

You make me laugh Soapboy.  Such melodrama.  It's not like when MS drops support for 2000 users who haven't upgraded to XP are going to be thrown into chaos, running into the streets in panic.  They'll either just continue using it, as it will continue to run virtually everying (much like Windows 98 still runs most stuff -- except that Windows XP and 2000 run on the same core so even most Microsoft products and even updates that are meant for Windows XP will still work perfectly on 2000 with or without support).  If a 2000 user come across a program he needs that will only work on Windows XP he doesn't need to fill the bathtub and get out the razor blades.  He can just install XP.  It's not something like an earthquake that strikes without warning and devastates the unprepared.
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« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2005, 01:02:00 am »
This argument totally rediculous.  I think this article speaks for itself:

HALF of all businesses still use Windows 2000. 
http://news.com.com/The+slow+road+to+Windows+XP/2100-1016_3-5746046.html?part=rss&tag=5746046&subj=news

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