White House Evacuation Procedures

[fredster]

MrC,

If Clinton were in he'd have shot it down.  Remember Waco?  Those guys weren't even within 3 miles of Washington.

Bush fell off his bike 2 times?  Wow.  How many times have you fallen off your bike?  Do you have a mountain bike?  Maybe you should get one.  I bet you are putting on some pounds setting behind the keyboard.  Being into computer programming kinda puts the pounds on doesn't it?

even though I do get a sinister cackle when Bush is exposed for the ineffectual, completely distant figure-head that he is

Sure.  This is why your side keeps losing. They totally underestimate the President.  It makes them feel better somehow that this "ineffectual" person has beaten them in two elections and continues to extend his influence with every passing day.  I don't understand how such an "ineffectual" person could be besting all the left's brain children.

How does that happen?

Probably because he delegates.  Like he delegates security to the people in charge of security. You know, he doesn't worry about the security of the capitol because he actually has made sure the right people are in place to take care of these things.

Nor have I seen one who ignored 52 different warnings about possible terrorist attacks from the very same agency (FAA).

You don't know that. You don't know what Clinton or the former president Bush or even Ronald Reagan ignored do you? 

What you know is that you don't like Bush. And from the weak responses you are dishing out, that's about all you really know.

You know that you can slam your keyboard and make you feel better about being on the losing side.

 It's okay. MrC. It's okay. The sky is not falling.

[JCL]

The president wasn't informed about a serious threat to the White House that basically shut down that branch of government? And his wife was one of those threatened? If my wife was in that situation, I'd like to know even if I were bicycling.

Seems wacky to me, but you Bush apologists live in an alternate reality where Iraq was a real threat to the US, while Osama Bin Laden is no big deal. You guys live in a world where a totally busted federal budget isn't a big deal, while a potential problem with social security 20 years from now is critical You live in a place where outing CIA agents is no big deal unless the other side does it. You think it fine that a gay pornographer can get into the White House for press conferences as long as he feeds the president softball questions. And on and on.


When are you guys going to join the real world?

[ChadTower]

When are you guys going to join the real world?

When the real world stops trying to force us to subsidize it.

[Dexter]

This is why your side keeps losing. They totally underestimate the President.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Sure.

[fredster]

MrC, you are a Bush fanatic.

I don't care if Bush knew the second it happened or not.  My guess is that they didn't think it was a threat. Maybe he found out when he needed to find out?  Did that ever occur to you?  So freaking what?  Was there any use in him knowing the very second something pops up on the radar?  I didn't know about it until I turned on the news in the evening.

I get tired of seeing a whole line of cheap shots against the President. I really do. It is so meaningless.   Like "bush presided over the greatest attack on america" (or whatever).  If I want to make it correct you could say that "Bush's administration presided over the worst attack on american soil second only to Clinton's Oklahoma City Bombing, etc..

I don't like some things the Bush administration is doing.  I disagree totally with the border situation.  I don't think there has been enough done with the enron folks.  I think there should be more of a conservation policy for energy. 

Are you on a "side" or what?  Do you like protesting for the sake of it? 

What do you know what's best for the country? I like the direction most of this is taking.  I don't think the president has a whole hell of a lot to do with the economy except with Tax policy. 

I like the government to keep the hell out of my personal business and deal with the borders, the military, and the roads. I think they get paid too much and I think it's too big to manage right now. 

I have no idea what you think.  I can't make it out between the Bush ranting.  Bush isn't the only person in the government is he?
The sky didn't fall when he was re-elected.  The world didn't end.

It's not about winning.  It's the fact that the conservatives are getting stronger and the liberals are getting weaker.  It should be telling you something.  It should be telling you that you should listen and understand the basis of the argument.  That this "side" is large and represents most of the people.  To make an effect, you have to address things up front and not just insult, minimize, and otherwise ignore their point of view.

I told you before, if you want Bush's weak side, then attack illegal immigration.  It's his weakest point in his base.

That's an important issue. The fact that Bush wasn't informed by a flashing amber alert sign when he was biking about a small plane that strayed into the area is trivial.

When Bush needs to act, he acts. 

What a person thinks is best for the country depends on who you are.  Apparently, you don't think so.  Me, I like most of it.

[AceTKK]

Yes, I find it completely and totally dumbfounding that Bush was not informed.  If my WIFE and closest colleagues were in fear for their lives and nobody bothered to tell me I would be furious. 

There are only two explanations: either Bush has made it clear that he doesn't want to be apprised of threats to the nation's (and his family's) security, or the people actually making the tough decisions don't feel that Bush's input is necessary and valuable.  Either situation is unacceptable for the leader of our nation.

-Ace-

[mr.Curmudgeon]

When Bush needs to act, he acts.

[ChadTower]

MrC, you are a Bush fanatic.

Correction. ANTI-Bush fanatic.

Same thing!  You spend more than a reasonable amount of energy thinking about Bush... same coin, different side.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

You spend more than a reasonable amount of energy thinking about Bush...

That I do. Both kinds.

[ChadTower]

Or you'll spend all your time ranting about the Mormon in the White House... 

[fredster]

There are only two explanations:

Right. ONLY TWO. Yep, you must know all about the interal federal security system.  Tell us more about how you arrived at ONLY TWO explaniations there Plato.

Lets see if I can totally speculate (without any clue whatsoever) about ONLY TWO possible outcomes:

1) Bush Knew - He would have finished his bike ride because he knew the situation was being taken care of under the security protocols.
2) Bush didn't know - He would have finished his bike ride.

The final effect - Bush didn't have to shoot down the plane.

And Mr. C, W will be out of the White house after his term is over.  If they couldn't get Clinton out, they can't get anybody out.