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Hoagie_one:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on April 14, 2005, 07:47:57 am ---
--- Quote from: Hoagie_one on April 14, 2005, 07:38:23 am ---
--- Quote from: AndyWarne on April 14, 2005, 07:20:13 am ---Applying electronic mapping to an analog stick seemed to me something rather obvious and even trivial, not a revolutionary concept.

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i thought it was rather revolutionary

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SO revolutionary that they have been doing it on gamepads for years.

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Its all relative.  IT was a new concept to me and many others here, so it seems revolutionary.  If two people invent teh same thing but never know the other person exists or about thier product, does that make one persons product less unique than the others?

Lilwolf:
Randy is complaining because Andy is considering trying to make his analog controller work with 8ways and 4ways at the same time.

SirPeale:
* Peale raises his eyebrows a bit, lowers them.  Tosses a piece of popcorn in the air and catches it in his mouth.  Nods to PointDaBlame

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: Lilwolf on April 14, 2005, 09:51:59 am ---Randy is complaining because Andy is considering trying to make his analog controller work with 8ways and 4ways at the same time.

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Read the thread again.  Andy's analog controller (A-PAC) ALREADY works with 8ways and 4ways at the same time.  And Randy hasn't said a word about it.

Randy is complaining about Andy implying that he will add software restriction to his upcoming analog 4-/8-way joystick, b/c Randy feels his implementation (not the concept) of software restriction is his intellectual property. 

--- Quote ---If ANYONE around here should complain its...

Hagstrom for Andy making IPacs
Andy for Randy making KeyWiz
Oscar for selling hacked mice
Dave for Andy making APacs
Dave for Randy making Wiz49.

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Why should Oscar complain about selling his mouse hacks, and if it bothered him, couldn't he just quit?

--- Quote ---I've seen the prices these guys sell their controllers for.  They really aren't making that much to call it a business.  They could / should really be charging MUCH more for all the research / development out there.   If Randy considered his development time, it would probably take him 6 months to a year to make a profit from the GP49...  And by then his sales will probably be slowing down and he will be working on the next project....  Why?  Because that is what he likes to do.

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There's an old saying about making up in volume what you lose on the per item price.  Are you complaining about the prices they charge being too low?  Does that make it not a business?

--- Quote ---And I'm pretty sure they both have full time jobs.  Just because you make a profit on your hobby doesn't mean its not a hobby. 

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Tell it to the IRS.

--- Quote ---This isn't because of business but lining each other up and checking their ...part... sizes. 

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* Tiger-Heli asks Peale for popcorn.

Lilwolf:
btw, mame has been doing this for ages.

used to require extra setup... (left not up not down.  up not left not right... ect)... but it IS done is software now.

So any intellectual property is crap.

And what do you think the difference between its now in the APac but now hes talking about adding it???

btw... I don't think Andy handled it well in the keywiz49 announcement thread at ALL.  I just think we should all be excited about any project out there.  Heck if someone comes out with a repo for that butt finger game I would be all thumbs up... maybe index finger...  Sure I wouldnt' buy it (for its intended purpose) but I wouldn't go rankin on the announcement thread..

<lilwolf takes note.  How much would the construction cost be for one of those things... And would it it be more authentic with analog pressure or with two switches and calculate the speed in software?...  And if I hook it up next to an 8way flight stick... could I use it as a fight button?>

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