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49-way vs 4-way vs 8-way in MAME: Differences...
Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: shmokes on April 15, 2005, 02:33:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: RandyT on April 14, 2005, 04:20:19 pm ---....right now there's a part of me that doesn't want shmokes or Grasshopper to be happy....ever.
RandyT
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Can someone tell me if this means that RandyT merely wants me to be disappointed while playing arcade games, or if he actually wants me to, like, get in a horrible, crippling accident and have my wife cheat on me and my kids hate me and get audided every year and be framed for murder and receive the death penalty and eventually go to hell for something I didn't do and burn for eternity?
I'm hoping the former, but his post was ambiguous. He did say "ever".
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Lol, I'm just glad Randy doesn't know what I look like. He might make a little voodoo doll of me and start sticking pins in it.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on April 14, 2005, 11:23:30 pm ---Ok, first example of a stick that switches analog output to digital output in hardware.
Thrustmaster Firestorm Dual Analog 3 Gamepad.
Most high end flight sticks and pretty much every gamepad with dual thumb buttons already has this feature. Its old news. I don't do playstations, but I am pretty sure they started doing that on the playstation 5 or 6 years ago.
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--- Quote from: mahuti on April 15, 2005, 02:16:43 pm ---Yeah, the playstation sticks have a button on them right in the middle to switch the dual analog sticks to digital.
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Ok. Said I was done, but I cannot let this pass by. Neither of these examples are even close.
Paige, you don't even own one of the interfaces, yet feel qualified somehow to say what they are or aren't, and frankly that is really baffling me. The device you are using as an example to point out how "wrong wrong wrong" I am includes a discreet D-Pad along with the analog control sticks. The switch does the following, per the documentation found here.
GAMEPAD MODE CONFIGURATION
Press the MODE button to switch between Digital and Dual Analog modes.
Digital Mode: multidirectional D-Pad (8 directions, 4 diagonals) and 12 programmable action
buttons.
Dual Analog Mode: 12 programmable action buttons, 2 analog controllers and programmable 8 way
POV function on the multidirectional D-Pad.
As you can see, at no time do the analog sticks become anything other than analog. It merely switches the control to the D-pad. This would be exactly the same as having an Analog joystick and an 8-way on your control panel, with a switch to go between the two of them. The function of the GP-Wiz49 is very different.
As for the Playstation dual-shock controllers: Everyone that owns one, please go fire up a game that does not have analog support built in. Something old would probably be safe. Now hit the analog button. Can you play the game with the Analog sticks? No. It also just turns the analog function off and on.
But if anyone actually does come up with an appropriate comparison, I really am interested. so please let me know.
RandyT
BTW, take it easy, shmokes, I'm not a gypsy (no offense intended to any gypsies out there) and there are no voodoo dolls on my desk in your visage. If karma took a toll on you today, I'm sorry, but I had nothing to do with it.
And Grasshopper, get outta my head. I was just getting ready to hit the post button when you responded. :)
Tiger-Heli:
Shucks, late to the party again, RandyT already replied . . .
--- Quote from: shmokes on April 15, 2005, 02:33:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: RandyT on April 14, 2005, 04:20:19 pm ---....right now there's a part of me that doesn't want shmokes or Grasshopper to be happy....ever.
RandyT
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I'm hoping the former, but his post was ambiguous. He did say "ever".
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It could also mean that some part of him will not ever want shmokes or Grasshopper to be happy - In other words - For the rest of his life (or longer) RandyT will not want shmokes or Grasshopper to be happy. Not, RandyT currently wants shmokes or Grasshopper to be unhappy for eternity. Then again, he said or, not and, so maybe you shouldn't take it so personally, as RandyT might be just as happy if all those bad things you mentioned happened to Grasshopper instead of you, as long as it's one of the two of you.
But I agree, it was fairly ambiguous. RandyT, could we get some clarification as to your wishes for shmoke's future?
* Tiger-Heli asks if there's any more pizza, or even better, Pepsi (caffeine), as it might still be a long night.
IntruderAlert:
--- Quote from: RandyT on April 15, 2005, 02:51:18 pm ---As you can see, at no time do the analog sticks become anything other than analog. It merely switches the control to the D-pad. This would be exactly the same as having an Analog joystick and an 8-way on your control panel, with a switch to go between the two of them. The function of the GP-Wiz49 is very different.
As for the Playstation dual-shock controllers: Everyone that owns one, please go fire up a game that does not have analog support built in. Something old would be probably be safe. Now hit the analog button. Can you play the game with the Analog sticks? No. It also just turns the analog function off and on.
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That's right
You can play most if not all ANALOG playstation games with the DIGITAL D-PAD but not vice-versa
mahuti:
Randy's on point there, It's been a long time since I've been on a playstation, but as I recal, the analog was pretty useless... at least on PSOne. Very few games supported it.
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