Is Zelda MAME Possible?

[eyal8r]

ok- searched the forum, but couldn't find an exact answer. So- Im wondering if it's possible to build a MAME machine, and run any versions of Zelda? I know it was for Nintendo, but, you guys are soo freakin brilliant that I figured there MIGHT be a way to run Zelda on my MAME cab!  Is this possible to do?  I also assume that if it IS possible, it can save your games as well...  Let me know!
Thanks guys!
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[Goz]

Sure you can...

Head over to the Screen SHot Archive and grab the MAME control friendly version of the emulator of choice. The N64 version of Zelda plays nice. I've not tried the supernintendo flavors on any of my cabs, but they should work fine.

Hope this helps

-Goz

[eyal8r]

NO WAY!!!  WOW!!!  So, this version will play out just like the real version on N64?  Oh man, this is INSANE.  Any glitches in it at all?
Thanks bud!
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[CthulhuLuke]

there might be one or two missing textures in the Zelda for N64, but overall they play really smoothly.  They might have updated p64, but the xbox version has a few issues here and there.  As for the 2D Zelda games, yes they all run including the NES zelda port on the SNES, and I believe the test system Zelda game, not positive on that one though.

[Bgnome]

dude, i dont think you quite understand whats going on.  in order to run non-arcade games you need different emulators.  MAME is not the end-all-be-all of gaming existence.  you need an N64 emulator for the N64 versions, a SNES emulator for the SNES versions, a NES emulator for NES versions, a GBA emulator for GBA and GB versions, and a 3DO emulator (is there one?) for 3DO versions.  I think theres a GC emulator in the works but not sure as to the status or playability on that one.  the emulators on that page Gozur linked have been modified for arcade controls and command line operation, which is nice for a MAME cab.

zelda themed cab:
http://www.mameworld.net/massive/Cabinet/Zeldamame/Zelda.htm

[eyal8r]

right- but I can download ALL those emulators for FREE, and run them in my MAME cab, right?  If that's the case, then I'm golden! I assume i'll have enough buttons to handle all the functions of other emulators- and it'll just be a matter of programming which buttons do what, right?  Dang this stuff is soo cool...
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[Bgnome]

all those particular emulators are free to download for personal use.  most of the ones listed that i have experience with are fairly customizable control-wise.  the only limitations are your computer specs and having the roms for the games you presumably own.

[eyal8r]

Well, my major game I want to play is Zelda. I almost went out and bought a GameCube the other night just so I can play it! Id rather put my money into this MAME machine and run Zelda along with it all.  Dang dude- Zelda in an Arcade machine. Damn this is cool.  My computer will be fairly new, so I'm sure any of the newer computers will run any of these games, right?

I just can't believe you can run Zelda on this- and it runs just like the original did? Dang, that is soo cool...

[Bgnome]

Well, my major game I want to play is Zelda. I almost went out and bought a GameCube the other night just so I can play it!

are you just talking about windwaker?  if so, it isnt playable in any emulators yet.  hopefully you realize there is A LOT more zelda out there than just the gamecube title.

[eyal8r]

No, I was referring to any of the N64 titles. I've never played SuperNintendo, so I don't know about that, or GameCube. I figure I can go for those later. Was there only ONE Zelda on the N64, or are there others?  I don't recall...
Thanks!

[BarontheFirst]

There are 2 Zelda's on the 64 Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time.

[Bgnome]

the n64 titles were also rereleased on bonus discs for the gamecube.

[Tahnok]

Also, you need the roms to play the games. You can only legally have the roms if you own the original cartridge. So, if you want to play Zelda: Ocarina of Time on the PC legally you need to go and buy the real N64 cartridge for that game. I highly encourage you to do so, the N64 stuff is still being sold and making a profit, it is not right to pirate it.

Edit: BTW, don't ask where to get the roms.

[DougHillman]

Also, you need the roms to play the games. You can only legally have the roms if you own the original cartridge. So, if you want to play Zelda: Ocarina of Time on the PC legally you need to go and buy the real N64 cartridge for that game. I highly encourage you to do so, the N64 stuff is still being sold and making a profit, it is not right to pirate it.

Edit: BTW, don't ask where to get the roms.

And you can only play MAME games legally if you own the PCB's tahnok.  You do own all the games you play in MAME right?

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[Bgnome]

Also, you need the roms to play the games. You can only legally have the roms if you own the original cartridge. So, if you want to play Zelda: Ocarina of Time on the PC legally you need to go and buy the real N64 cartridge for that game. I highly encourage you to do so, the N64 stuff is still being sold and making a profit, it is not right to pirate it.

Edit: BTW, don't ask where to get the roms.

the gc discs "may" be easier to get a hold of..

[ries]

There was majora's mask and ocarina of time on the n64. Both great games and both playable on the project64 emulator!

Here is an overview of all zelda games;http://www.zelda.com/universe/

No, I was referring to any of the N64 titles. I've never played SuperNintendo, so I don't know about that, or GameCube. I figure I can go for those later. Was there only ONE Zelda on the N64, or are there others?  I don't recall...
Thanks!

[walls83]

Also the english language Master Quest is out there too,  For the N64.

All the Zelda games work Great I was playing Ocarian of Time last night.

Ive beat Zelda(nes), Zelda II(nes), Zelda(snes), and Ocarian of Time(n64) all on my Mame Cab.  Ive played Master Quest, MM(n64) and all the GB, GBC and GBA games, They both play good.

Ive also been Playing 4 swords on the GBA 4 player emulator.

[Bgnome]

isnt master quest just ocarina of time with slightly altered dungeons?

[walls83]

Ya they are harder and Changed around.  It was only released in Japan back in the day. But when Wind waker came out if you preordered it you got the Ocarian of Time and Master quest disk.  But I found the Master Quest English version for the N64.  Someone must have Translated it and released the rom.  Because it was never released for the N64.

[stuzza]

No, I was referring to any of the N64 titles. I've never played SuperNintendo, so I don't know about that, or GameCube.

If you've never played the SuperNES version of Zelda, then you don't know what you're missing!!  Zelda on the SNES is one of the best console games I've ever played.  I highly recommend you check it out.  

[HaRuMaN]

<snip>
I've never played SuperNintendo, so I don't know about that</snip>

What the heck???

[RayB]

I played Zelda for SNES strictly on my SNES Cab I had back in early 90's. It plays so damn great with an arcade monitor, stereo arcade speakers and arcade controls.

I also recommand playing the Japanese version instead of the US version. It makes you think alot more to solve puzzles when you don't have all the "answers" force fed to you. I enjoyed it so much more that way.

~Ray B.

[Darkstalker]

No, I was referring to any of the N64 titles. I've never played SuperNintendo, so I don't know about that, or GameCube.

If you've never played the SuperNES version of Zelda, then you don't know what you're missing!!  Zelda on the SNES is one of the best console games I've ever played.  I highly recommend you check it out.  

Or pickup the GBA Four Swords, it's the same game, Link just yaps a lot when you swing the sword.

There were actually quite a few Zelda related titles here in the US (in order):

Legend of Zelda - NES
Zelda II: Adventures of Link - NES
Link's Awakening - GBC
Wand of Gamelon - CD-i
Faces of Evil - CD-i
Zelda's Adventure - CD-i
A Link to the Past - SNES
Oracle of Time - N64
Majora's Mask - N64
Oracle of Seasons/Oracle of Ages - GBC
A Link to the Past/Four Swords - GBA
Wind Waker - GC
Zelda Collectors Edition and Ocarina of Time Master Quest - GC
Four Swords - GC

There was also an LCD watch Zelda, a "Game & Watch" version, plus cameos in Super Smash Brothers Melee and Soul Caliber II for Gamecube, and the inclusion of the original NES title in Animal Crossing.

There are new games in the works, one for Gamecube with AWESOME graphics (No more Legend of Cellda), and Minish Cap for GBA.

[Tahnok]

Also, you need the roms to play the games. You can only legally have the roms if you own the original cartridge. So, if you want to play Zelda: Ocarina of Time on the PC legally you need to go and buy the real N64 cartridge for that game. I highly encourage you to do so, the N64 stuff is still being sold and making a profit, it is not right to pirate it.

Edit: BTW, don't ask where to get the roms.

And you can only play MAME games legally if you own the PCB's tahnok.  You do own all the games you play in MAME right?

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*Searches through old posts*

Ahh... Here we go...

I don't plan on playing games that I don't own. N64 games are still being sold and are readily available.

I know someone will point out that I use both NES and arcade emulators, so: I do own a very large NES collection, I own almost all the roms I play. Plus NES games are no longer being sold, if I could go and buy the NES games that I want I would (all the ones I don't own are rare). The same thing goes for arcade roms.

[eyal8r]

Hey guys-
Just curious now that I have my cab built and building my CP. Anything special in terms of CP and computer I need for this SNES/N64 stuff to run in my cab?

Also- I can just download the emulators, like I will for MAME, and run it from my computer in the cab, right? If this is the case, how can I switch between MAME and say, N64 emulators? 
Thanks
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[Goz]

Get a copy of the modified N64 emulator at The Screenshot Archive it is CP friendly in that ESC = exit. The emulator is programmable to set the rest of the controls.

Hope this helps,

-Goz

[unclet]

I have numerous emulators on my cabinet and all play find.

[Howard_Casto]

Reality check here guys.   

Can you play a n64 version of zelda on a mame cab?  Yes.

Should you?  Not unless you are on crack. 

These games:

1. Need analog controls.  This isn't an optional thing... zelda is too touchy to play with digital sticks. 

2. Require hours upon hours of constant gameplay, which you should do sitting down, a comfortable distance from your tv, not 2 feet away from a display standing up.  Can you say eye strain?

2. In terms of the zelda series, the n64 games kinda suck.    The n64 games were probably the worst example of what the zelda series had to offer.  The nes games were great, the snes games were ok, and windwaker is simply amazing, but at least in most people's opinions, the 3 released on the n64 were the weakest of the series. 


And on a side note.... anyone who hasn't played the snes/nes games should be shot.  They were when the game was still good. 

[paigeoliver]

I have found that a Williams 49-way with SJC hookup controls the N64 analog games perfectly.

I never played Zelda 64 much, but I managed to get all 120 Stars on Super Mario 64 using an 8-way stick.

[anthonylitz]

I have found that a Williams 49-way with SJC hookup controls the N64 analog games perfectly.

Paige you wanna throw out a mini list of a few N64 games you enjoy with arcade controls?  I started laughing when I read Howard's post because I was thinking those thoughts the whole thread!  I do believe a few games will be alot of fun with standard arcade controls.  I put them all in my cab and plan to make fav list since most games won't play correctly.  (I told my buddy the handicap of controls and he says so, I said ok man lets say we play 007, he says so it's 007 lets play, LOL)    A alternative would be put a USB connection somewhere on the control panel or cab.  Then plug in a N64 control into a usb convertor thingy......But this takes back to Howard's first point, WHY?! 


ok because "we" don't own the N64 anymore and the games are free , and a controler is kinda cheap.

Anthony

[paigeoliver]

I really only play Mario 64. I have a few other ones, but I pretty much never play them.

[eyal8r]

ok- since we're on the subject, and I'm about to build a computer for this project, I kinda need to know-

What kind of computer do I need to run the NES/SNES and others emulators/games?  I know for MAME, I don't need much. But what about these?  Anything special?  Video card?  Ram? Processor?  etc???

Thanks for any insights....
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[paigeoliver]

My 100 mhz laptop that isn't even a pentium can run Nes games full speed. My 133 mhz computer at work runs snes games full speed.

[eyal8r]

NO WAY!  Oh man!  Then, all I need is a half way decent POS system to run it all- as long as I have a big enough HD- I would think 60Gig is MORE than enough for MAME AND other emulators (including running Zelda, correct???)...
Dang, that's sweet!
Thanks!
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[Trimoor]

Require hours upon hours of constant gameplay, which you should do sitting down, a comfortable distance from your tv, not 2 feet away from a display standing up. Can you say eye strain?

Don't you read the safety guides that are included with every game?
It says to take a 15 minute break every hour.
(As if anyone actually listens)

In terms of the zelda series, the n64 games kinda suck. The n64 games were probably the worst example of what the zelda series had to offer. The nes games were great, the snes games were ok, and windwaker is simply amazing, but at least in most people's opinions, the 3 released on the n64 were the weakest of the series.

Them's fightin' words.  Ocarnia of Time is my favorite Zelda game.  It has great music, great controls (it needs a jump though), and the hookshot in 3D is just awsome.

Majora's Mask sucks.  They took a little side plot from Ocarnia of Time, and tried to stretch it out into a whole game.

Nintendo has been really agrivating me lately by trying to milk an old game for all it's worth.  Nearly every Mario game for the advance is a bad copy of an SNES version.  Then there's the old games on the GC.

It wouldn't be so bad if they sold it as a nostalgia pack, but they try to pass it off as a new game.  Any they have the gall to charge $40 for it!

Then they blame piracy for the low sales...
Have they thought of--gasp--making a new game?

I miss the old days...

[ften]

NO WAY! Oh man! Then, all I need is a half way decent POS system to run it all- as long as I have a big enough HD- I would think 60Gig is MORE than enough for MAME AND other emulators (including running Zelda, correct???)...
Dang, that's sweet!
Thanks!
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Lol, you're pretty excitable. From what I have learned by reading online and defiantly not actually having all the roms for MAME and most the consoles, because I don't own all the

[eyal8r]

Well, what I've noticed is- and maybe Im just getting older and have a different perspective now, but-

Zelda, Mario, all the good classics have now become too geared for younger players.

[paigeoliver]

You want tough?

Play Zelda (the original one) and don't pick up the sword, don't pick up any of them.
You can't beat the game that way, but you can get to Ganon and shoot him with an arrow, if you do that you win the challenge.

At which point you must repeat the same challenge without picking up any rings.

If you manage THAT then do it without picking up any heart containers either.

I have personally managed it without swords or rings. I could never get anywhere on the no heart container challenge.

Zelda with no sword is a whole different game.


Oh, Zelda boy. You only asked about Nes and SNES games, N64 games take either a whole lot more system, or an old 3DFX card and the UltraHLE emulator.

[eyal8r]

Paige-
Yes, Im looking to run N64- forgot to mention that one. What do you recommend for a system in order to run that smoothly?
Thanks
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