ripped off on ebay: problem solved!!

[dirt]

ok here it goes. i got ripped off by a guy on ebay for $265. it was for 4 golden tee boards.i have his email address his cellphone number(he wont respond to either) and his actual address and i also have his website address that he runs for his truck club. now the question. "hypotheticly" what can be done to make his life hell until he pays up. i know some of you are great at this stuff. i just wish he didn't live half way across the country or i would know exactly what to do.
any ideas are welcome. by the way if anyone lives near tinley park il and would like to collect for me i'll split the cash or the boards with you.once again this is totally "hypothetical".

[Rawker]

paypal allows you to get your money back

[dirt]

like an idiot i sent the money thru moneygram.man i could shoot myself for that now.

dirt

[shmokes]

like an idiot i sent the money thru moneygram.man i could shoot myself for that now.

dirt

Well, that would certainly be an effective solution.   A bit on the severe side, perhaps?

[General Zod]

you mentioned having his cell number and address , would you happen to have his home phone number?

you can do a reverse look-up you know...

make a few calls, do a little homework ... and find out his employer.

call the local law enforcement, and file a complaint...you'll be surprised at the outcome.

you can always play hardball too ... just be smart about it.  

p.s. Collecting monies owed , or goods for that matter ... is right up my alley. Why don't you pass out his number? even an address could do some good...

[dirt]

you mentioned having his cell number and address , would you happen to have his home phone number?

you can do a reverse look-up you know...

make a few calls, do a little homework ... and find out his employer.

call the local law enforcement, and file a complaint...you'll be surprised at the outcome.

you can always play hardball too ... just be smart about it.  

i dont have his home number. what is a reverse look-up?

dirt

[General Zod]

a reverse look-up is where you enter the street number/ street name, and in return you're provided with the home telephone number.

[dirt]

is that online or on the phone thru 411? i would love to have his home number "pestisiiiiide"

dirt

[General Zod]

dirt .... check your PM


 

[Goz]

A buddy of mine is a 'security specialist' (professionally paid hacker). How much pain do you want to inflict?

-Goz

[Magnet_Eye]

Hey, besides PayPal protection, eBay actually has an insurance as well.

from their site (under Fraud Protection):

"Under the eBay Fraud Protection Program, most items on eBay are covered for up to $200 (minus $25 to cover processing costs). Please note: the maximum reimbursement for any claim is $175. "

You won't get all your money, but something back is better than nothing.

[dirt]

the ebay fraud protection is my last resort. i still have a coulpe of weeks before the deadline to file a fraud complaint.

dirt

[Druin]

Sometime last year around summer I got ripped off on Ebay for an mp3 player 40gig hard drive, I sent money using Paypal and never got any reply thereafter.  I found out he ripped off at least 2 others as well when I saw negative feedback.
We filed complaints through paypal AND ebay, and nothing ever came of it. except his ebay account became deactivated in a few days.  He had over 200 feedbacks, all positive high acclaim, there was no way to see it coming and apparently nothing that can be done about it.  Emails started bouncing from the aol address he was using.  I still have any phone/address/name info he originally gave when he tried to make me send a money order initially.

[saint]

You guys need to keep whatever you're doing legal and above board, or you may find yourself the ones on the wrong side of the law while he ends up keeping your money... This is a public forum...

A buddy of mine is a 'security specialist' (professionally paid hacker). How much pain do you want to inflict?

-Goz

[GGKoul]

Where does he live?  Maybe someone on this board can go "visit" him.

[mp2526]

a reverse look-up is where you enter the street number/ street name, and in return you're provided with the home telephone number.

Actually it's the other way around.  Find an address from a phone number.

[General Zod]

a reverse look-up is where you enter the street number/ street name, and in return you're provided with the home telephone number.

Actually it's the other way around.  Find an address from a phone number.

ummmm, no !! I don't know about where you are, but here we have a directory that lists every street name and phone number, just as the white pages do.

the book lists in this order ....

street name / street number ------ resident / phone number

donnelly directory only produces a handfull of these each release, and they're not free like the usual phonebook. but you can research at the library if needed, but not checkout.

quite an amazing book actually !!

[Sasquatch!]

is that online or on the phone thru 411? i would love to have his home number "pestisiiiiide"

I came to this thread with the intention of saying "You could call him up and play stupid rap loops and yell stuff like 'PESTICIIIIIIDE!'", but I guess you already thought of that, huh?

Obviously, yeah, contact eBay.  I've never had this happen, but could you just go to your local PD and file some of complaint?

[allroy1975]

is that online or on the phone thru 411? i would love to have his home number "pestisiiiiide"

I came to this thread with the intention of saying "You could call him up and play stupid rap loops and yell stuff like 'PESTICIIIIIIDE!'", but I guess you already thought of that, huh?

Personally, I'd like to have that happen, with some recording (man that was funny), but acording to www.anywho.com a reverse lookup is when you put in the Phone number and you can get people's name, address, city and zip.

but what do they know...they're just AT&T!!!!

Allroy

[Jakobud]

What is his website address?  WHOIS is your friend...

[dirt]

thank you everyone for your help.i've got some great info and idea's so far. i knew this was the right place to ask for this kind of help. i should have posted this a week or two ago.keep fighting the good fight.


dirt

ps and my "hypothetical" offer still stands if anyone lives near him and wants to collect for me let me know. you will get half the money or the golden tee 98 and 99 tourniment boards for your time.

[greven grevs]

I agree with what someone said earlier. Call the local police and inform them of what happened. Let them know that he has defrauded you of your money by selling an item that does not exist [it may but that cant be proven til it is produced]. I am not sure how moneygram works but if you used a credit card or bank card you can contact the maker of the card and dispute the charges. Let them know that you were ripped. Try calling from different phones or have someone from abother state or even the same area as the seller call. He may not be answering your calls cuase he sees the area code.

[Rawker]

Sometime last year around summer I got ripped off on Ebay for an mp3 player 40gig hard drive, I sent money using Paypal and never got any reply thereafter.  I found out he ripped off at least 2 others as well when I saw negative feedback.
We filed complaints through paypal AND ebay, and nothing ever came of it. except his ebay account became deactivated in a few days.  He had over 200 feedbacks, all positive high acclaim, there was no way to see it coming and apparently nothing that can be done about it.  Emails started bouncing from the aol address he was using.  I still have any phone/address/name info he originally gave when he tried to make me send a money order initially.

sux for you, over the past year i've had about 4 people not send me my product and pay pal has sent me my money back within a week.

[ashardin]

I had this happen for the monitor for my cab.  The seller had great feeback, but on this dutch auction he did not follow through.  I collected emails from his other auctions and that auction and got in touch with other's that had not gotten their monitor either.  Emails bounced, phone calls were not answered, etc.  His Ebay account was suspended, and I requested my money back through PayPal.

In that process I got his business (payment) address from another buyer who had sent a M.O., so I gave a call to the local police department and had a discussion with a detective. One thing I learned, this municipality (it was in New Jersey) would not do anything without the loss value being at least $500, this might be an issue for you.  I did not have that ( I think the monitor was $150, this was a few years ago).  Others that had not gotten their item forwarded me their info and we ended up having a few thousand dollars in total losses.  The detective said he couldn't do too much without a sworn complaint etc., but he would stop by the address and "have a talk with them".

It worked, the very next day all of our monitors were shipped, and mine even had an extra 5 BNC to VGA cable (about $30 online).  

If someone is trying to rip somebody else off, a visit by the police, or a stern letter from an attorney will usually get them motivated to do the right thing.

An interesting end note to this is PayPal also credited my money back to me, so I had the monitor and the refund.  I could not resend it via PayPal since his account was frozen, so I emailed and called for about a month after that so I could get him his money that he was rightfully owed (I didn't want to stoop to his level).  I never was able to get hold of him as to how I should pay for the monitor, so the monitor in my cab is still unpaid for to this day.

[JamIt]

Oh that was you ashardin?  I've been trying to find you.  You can send me the $180 now - you don't think that cable is free do you?
--JamIt

BTW: I'm joking.

[ground_squirrel]

I actually live pretty close to there. I live in berwyn IL. Give me the clowns information. I hate guys like that. You can email me direct. Go to www.air-nailers.com and my email address is at the bottom.

-Chris

[dirt]

well i have some bad news. for some strange reason i cannot send any emails out on my address or my wifes. my computer says they are sent but nobody receives them. the guys at sbc are suppost to call be back within 24 hours and hopefully i can get it working again. i dont work with computers for living and i have only had one for about 2years so i really dont know too much about how everything works yet. my buddy thinks that maybe someone registered my isp as spam and that is the reason. but like i said before i know nothing of these things. so if i am suppost to email you something pm me and as soon as my email gets up i will email you back.

dirt

[abrannan]

well i have some bad news. for some strange reason i cannot send any emails out on my address or my wifes. my computer says they are sent but nobody receives them. the guys at sbc are suppost to call be back within 24 hours and hopefully i can get it working again. i dont work with computers for living and i have only had one for about 2years so i really dont know too much about how everything works yet. my buddy thinks that maybe someone registered my isp as spam and that is the reason. but like i said before i know nothing of these things. so if i am suppost to email you something pm me and as soon as my email gets up i will email you back.

dirt

Are you running your system with a firewall & anti-virus program?  If not, and maybe even if, your system may have been compromised by a spammer and they used it to send or relay spam, in which case a block is the standard approach.  

[Zapper]

The goods never arrived right? How long have you been waiting? Sometimes people are just real slow to mail stuff out. If the guy has a good sized history of positive feedback I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and wait awhile longer, and keep trying to contact him.

But if he has no feedback history...

[ground_squirrel]

dirt, if you want to send me that guys information, you can go to that same website, at http://www.air-nailers.com/contact_us.jsp scroll down and leave a feedback in the web form.

-Chris

[dirt]

ok i just talked to sbc and they say it is their problem and they are aware of it and all my emails will be delivered in a couple of hours. then everything will be back to normal.


dirt

[dirt]

The goods never arrived right? How long have you been waiting? Sometimes people are just real slow to mail stuff out. If the guy has a good sized history of positive feedback I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and wait awhile longer, and keep trying to contact him.

But if he has no feedback history...

its been 32 days and as soon as he got the money he dissabled his email address and wont return any phone calls. so i have no doubt the guy is trying to rip me off.

dirt

[dirt]

thank you everyone for your help. alot of you have given me some great info that was well used and 10 min ago i got an email from him and he is sending me my money . it turns out that he doesn't like all his truck club buddies knowing that their president rips people off. so i basicly found his weak spot and applied some pressure and wahla!!!!!!

once again that you to everyone,

dirt

[SirPeale]

Hey, that's cool, dirt!

I guess there was no chance of you getting the boards though, eh?

Although likely they wouldn't have worked anyway.

[dirt]

Hey, that's cool, dirt!

I guess there was no chance of you getting the boards though, eh?

Although likely they wouldn't have worked anyway.

that is exactly what i thought. i think i trusted this guy enough. i'll just take my money back and walk away happy.


dirt

[shmokes]

I see people say wahla, or wa-la and such quite a bit.

It's actually spelled voila (and sounds like vwalah -- the v isn't silent).  Just thought you'd like to know.    

[dirt]

I see people say wahla, or wa-la and such quite a bit.

It's actually spelled voila (and sounds like vwalah -- the v isn't silent).  Just thought you'd like to know.    

if i had ranked a little higher on that IQ poll i might have known that . to be truthfull i actualy stopped on that word for a while and thought "i know thats wrong but how the hell do you spell it, oh well noboby will notice."

dirt

[General Zod]

that's good to hear, dirt !!

i actually tried making a few calls today for you while i was at work.  

definitely a plus getting the matter resolved, your way.



BTW .... anyone hear from Techoverload yet  

[hyiu]

glad to hear a story with a good ending...

[GGKoul]

Dirt, Glad to hear it worked out.  In the future, I suggest you drive over to their house in your BullDozzer.  And tell him he has a problem....  

-GGKoul

[dirt]

if that would have been at all possible trust me i would have!!!


dirt

[wfg97079]

General Zod
I havent

that's good to hear, dirt !!

i actually tried making a few calls today for you while i was at work.  

definitely a plus getting the matter resolved, your way.



BTW .... anyone hear from Techoverload yet