Namco Point Blank Arcade Lightgun Replacement with Clone 'Named' Gun

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I'm restoring a Namco Point Blank Arcade Machine. Its the cabinet with a mirror.
This would also relate to anyone with Time Crisis Arcade.

I am needing 2 Light guns. Namco ran out of replacement guns years ago.

China came along and made a clone but its not compatible with Cabinets with a mirror. I am guessing this is because of the design of the sensor. I think they cloned the sensor from a much newer game.
Here's a copy of the disclaimer:


I ordered one and cracked it open.





Here is a photo of the connector on the Clone:


Arcade Spares sells the clone and it looks like it comes with an adapter. I just need to see if I can make or buy that adapter but I will still have the sensor issue.



Namco Plug


Grok says: (sadly it does not include the colours).
The light gun connector on the original Namco Point Blank (NB-1 hardware, 1994) is typically a 15-pin connector on the gun I/O or position/EMI board.
Standard Gun/Lamp Connector Pinout (J105 or equivalent on the I/O board, Solder Side):
Pin   Function   Notes
1   +24V   Power for solenoid (recoil)
2   +24V   Power for solenoid
3   +12V   -
4   +5V   -
5   +5V   -
6   Solenoid 1 (Recoil Gun 1)   Blowback / recoil output
7   Trigger 1   Gun 1 trigger switch input
8   GND   Ground
9   Sensor 1   Gun 1 light sensor / optic signal
10   Lamp 1   Gun 1 start / indicator lamp
11   Solenoid 2 (Recoil Gun 2)   Blowback / recoil output
12   Trigger 2   Gun 2 trigger switch input
13   GND   Ground
14   Sensor 2   Gun 2 light sensor / optic signal
15   Lamp 2   Gun 2 start / indicator lamp

UPDATE: Kevin Woolford from UKVAC has kindly sent me a photo of an adapter he made.


I believe the Named Gun uses a 24v Solenoid but I am not certain.

Perhaps the sensor needs to be re-designed and an adapter used and this clone will then be plug and play for Namco System NB-1 games?

Technical Questions

Has anyone already solved this and if so how?

Does anyone have the correct pinout for both guns?

Suggestions made to me already:

Convert the monitor to LCD run on mame and convert the clone to Gun4IR or a Blamcom or use a Sinden. I appreciate the suggestion but I am wanting to keep this CRT 
Use Happ guns. This isn't a bad idea at all but I do really love the Namco design.

Any help would be very much appreciated.