[RESOLVED] Package received from KLOVer

[vwalbridge]

...and people need to be a little more patient.  2 weeks in and the guy goes nuclear posting a negative feedback thread on both KLOV and BYOAC?   Not even a "Possible deal going wrong" but rather a "DO NOT BUY FROM" thread?  That there is a bit pre-mature,  don'tcha think?   I can see an "inquiry" post... but a full on "This guy sucks" post after only 2 weeks?  I know one thing,  a certain someone is going on my ever growing "LIST" if you get my drift... and it sure as hell isn't Millertime.

You are right FrizzleFried. I'm not afraid to admit when I've done wrong. I don't mind swallowing my pride and changing the tone of my thread on KLOV. I totally understand I can't undo what I've said but if I asked the mods on KLOV to move the thread to the "Potentially going bad" subforum, do you think they would do that? (I would also change the title of course)

I would also perfectly accept having the mods delete my thread altogether. Not for my sake but for millertime's sake. Enough people have pointed out that I was too quick to react and I'm sorry.

I've met a lot of really cool people in the last few years in the hobby, online and face-to-face. I've never wanted to upset anyone to the point where they completely ignore me and don't want to do business with me.

Then why did you fire off on millertime so quickly?  Well...I just didn't know what to do to be perfectly honest. I was upset because he said he would have it shipped on two different occasions, then didn't, then hasn't said a word to me in 9 days. I just wanted to get his attention, that's all.

I now know that I just need to wait longer. I'm not sure how much longer but I guess I'll let the community decide that.

Again, I'm sorry that I didn't follow the proper protocol. I should have started out slower and opened a "possible deal gone bad" thread first. I promised not to fiddle with my thread on KLOV but do you think the mods over there will move / delete / lock...(whatever it takes) to allow me to start this process correctly?

[pbj]

Meh, you got ripped off.  Hilarious to see the KLOV wagons dusted off and circling in defense.

Stop posting and call your bank tomorrow morning.  PayPal policies don't mean a thing in the real world.

[FrizzleFried]

Hi Jeffo...



If you're not getting response from your seller,  it's always a good idea to INQUIRE as to if others have been having the same troubles, etc. BEFORE going nuclear and suggesting the guy is ripping you off.  While anyone I've dealt with can attest that I ship quickly and communicate well,  not everyone does.   If this was a month down the road and you'd already made an inquiry post and still hadn't heard anything from the seller,  I have zero problem with a "this guy burned me" post... but 15 days is premature.\

EDIT: I wrote this prior to reading OPs last reply.  You're welcome to do what you wish... I'm sure they'd likely move your thread if you wanted... report it and ask them to.

[jennifer]

Meh, you got ripped off.  Hilarious to see the KLOV wagons dusted off and circling in defense.

Stop posting and call your bank tomorrow morning.  PayPal policies don't mean a thing in the real world.

**Jennifer laughs thinking about Klovers all pointing there flaming arrows at us  **

[Ginsu Victim]

Hi Jeffo...

Jeffo is a banana.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=11948

Cheffo is not.

[Token]

Only in this hobby are customers blacklisted when they call out a seller for lying about a shipment and stopping communication.

What a racket!

Anybody who thinks VW is the bad guy in this situation can add me to their "you are not my friend and I won't sell you my precious arcade treasures" list. I don't think I want to buy from anyone who views buyers that way.

[vwalbridge]

Thanks Token appreciate the nice words man!

I'm really going to try and give the seller the benefit of the doubt. I actually have no idea what could have happened and he could be having some legitimate troubles.

If he does come through, I hope we can work something out.   

[Dal1980]

I bet it's more of the not knowing that's probably winding you up more. If the guy stabbed you in the back then you can at least vent and move on. If the guy slipped into a comma and just woke up and explained then you'd know and resolve. Either way, I'm guessing you need the closure regardless of the outcome (obviously rectifying it and having the goods would be the best option).

Think you need to pop all this on the back burner and come back to it in two or three weeks when there may be more of a clue as to what's gone one. Doesn't sound like enough money to pack Ina hobby over so I'm sure the guy has a good reason and would maybe have appreciated your patients.


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[pbj]

Sigh.  Still haven't called your bank, have you?

[CheffoJeffo]

Hi Jeffo...

Jeffo is a banana.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=11948

Cheffo is not.

And Jeffo and Cheffo have actually been seen together in the meatspace.

[CheffoJeffo]

Only in this hobby are customers blacklisted when they call out a seller for lying about a shipment and stopping communication.

What a racket!

Anybody who thinks VW is the bad guy in this situation can add me to their "you are not my friend and I won't sell you my precious arcade treasures" list. I don't think I want to buy from anyone who views buyers that way.

Nobody said it made sense ... just that that's the way it is (hence my warnings). And it only makes a difference if you care: we are all free to be like pbj.

[CheffoJeffo]

I'm really going try and give the seller the benefit of the doubt. I actually have no idea what could have happened and he could be having some legitimate troubles.

Or he could be an irresponsible and disrespectful seller. 

[jennifer]

Only in this hobby are customers blacklisted when they call out a seller for lying about a shipment and stopping communication.

What a racket!

Anybody who thinks VW is the bad guy in this situation can add me to their "you are not my friend and I won't sell you my precious arcade treasures" list. I don't think I want to buy from anyone who views buyers that way.

Nobody said it made sense ... just that that's the way it is (hence my warnings). And it only makes a difference if you care: we are all free to be like pbj.

**Jennifer takes a big swig of toilet wine, and wipes rotten meat off her face).... What do you mean, like PBJ?

[yotsuya]

Looks like two other KLOVers have posted the same type of thread just today.

[JDFan]

Looks like two other KLOVers have posted the same type of thread just today.

And were they all about the same product

[vwalbridge]

[UPDATE 2-3-16] - The seller literally just PM'd me and sent tracking information. He has been dealing with some very serious personal matters. Of which, are clearly and understandably more important than worrying about this.

I will post a follow up when the panel arrives.

[pbj]

Logged into KLOV for the first time in a couple of years to peruse the drama.  My god, nothing has changed.  Time to forgot my password again.

[CheffoJeffo]

Glad it looks like it will work out. 

[vwalbridge]

Glad it looks like it will work out. 

Thanks CheffoJeffo. I appreciate your seasoned advice regarding my issue. I've obviously learned a couple things:

- Use PayPal Fees
- Don't knee jerk and start a negative feedback thread so quickly
- Wait 4 weeks before starting a "Possible deal gone bad thread"

[Ginsu Victim]

- Don't knee jerk and start a negative feedback thread so quickly

I learned that when I first joined here after doing just that.

[Dal1980]

I think this is a lesson for most. I know regardless of my advice how I would have handled it and it would have almost certainly been the same so don't feel too bad. It's easy to say be patient but if it was my money I'd be like "it's been 2 hours since I've heard anything OMG that b@&£7ed ripped me off... Dear world, I've just bought from this seller...


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[CheffoJeffo]

Hey, I get pissed off when it's 11:00am and the thing I ordered last night is still out for delivery on the truck. But I know that Amazon and Canada Post will just laugh off my impatience. Arcaders? Not so much.

[ChadTower]

I think this is a lesson for most.

Well, no, because a lot of us grew up in the "shipping and handling takes 4-6 weeks" era.  Sometimes I send payment on something and don't even give it a second thought for ten days.  I find myself ordering things and if it comes within 4-5 days I'm like... oh yeah... I did order this part!  And more than once I have made a deal with someone only to get busy and not send payment for a week.  Real life happens.  This is just a hobby.  The only stress that is ever involved is all unnecessary and in peoples' heads.

[vwalbridge]

[UPDATE 2-11-16] - The VS panel arrived. It was packaged very well and looks excellent. The seller even threw in a couple extra parts and that was very generous of him. He and I traded a couple PMs that I will obviously keep between us but we are A-OK now. I'm very happy and he is a good guy. I hope his personal situation is getting better.

This matter has been resolved.

[Token]

Glad it all worked out in the end VW. 

[BadMouth]

Every time I see this thread I hear reggae fusion artist Shaggy sing "Mr. KLOVer KLOVer" in my head.

[ChadTower]

Every time I see this thread I hear reggae fusion artist Shaggy sing "Mr. KLOVer KLOVer" in my head.