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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2015, 01:42:42 pm »
Another question. This arcade will have Hyperspin and only MAME (no other consoles). Fry's has a computer for less than $200 that I believe should run it just fine. It has the AMD E1-6010 with integrated Radeon R2, am I right that this would be fine?

Someone who only plays the classics and uses an old version of MAME will tell you yes.
Someone who plays 3D games (Blitz, Tekken) and shmups from the 90's on a current MAME build will tell you no.

I don't have any experience with the processor you mentioned, but googled it and saw a spec of 1.35Ghz.
Newer processors do more with less Ghz, but I'd still be afraid of it falling way short.

Personally I won't use anything under 3Ghz anymore unless I'm just trying to find a use for an ancient PC.

EDIT: Try the games you want to play out on various other PCs you have access to and see if any of them choke.
It's all about where you draw the line.  Ridge Racer plays wonderful in MAME, but requires a $200+ processor to run full speed.

I have 3 emulator systems in various capacities at the moment.  They are all 3.4Gz Athlon X3 processors with used 9800GT video cards.
They cost around $250 in parts at the time, not including the OS.
They are just barely good enough to run the Tekken games in MAME and Naomi shmups in Makaron emulator.  The Naomi shmups choke a little bit if run on Demul emulator.
PC games like Super Street Fighter IV and Mortal Kombat Komplete run surprisingly well at 1280x720 and medium settings.
This is back a few generations, so I wouldn't recommend building the same thing now, but it gives you an idea.

Current MAME builds are optimized for Intel processors.
If building today with the same budget, I'd probably go for a 2.8Ghz or higher i3.

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2015, 02:11:16 pm »
They're used, but it looks like Arrow stocks some 3Ghz+ i3's in your price range.
http://arrowdirect.com/search?q=#/?_=1&page=1&filter.category_hierarchy=Desktops&filter.cpu_type=Intel%20Core%20i3%20Gen1&filter.cpu_type=Intel%20Core%20i3%20Gen2&sort.price=asc

See the thread about arrow in the everything else subforum.
Someone mentioned a 20% off code.

I used a 50% off code around Christmas to get a 3.2Ghz Pentium 4(no OS) for $16.  ;D
I wouldn't recommend a P4 unless it's just going to play 2D stuff or as a temporary measure.

EDIT:  The i3's at arrow were around $220 before discounts when I posted the link.  The price seems to fluctuate wildly depending on what discount codes are valid.
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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2015, 11:28:26 am »
OK, I decided to bump up the computer and buy the parts to build it myself. Gonna cost about $600, but will probably be worth it. Here is a parts list:

3.2 GHz Dual Core Intel Processor
MSI LGA 1150 Micro ATX MotherBoard
Western Digital Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM HD
8 GB Kingston HyperX Fury RAM
750 Watt ATX 12V Power Supply
Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card
Windows 7 Ultimate

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2015, 12:04:26 am »
$99 for the Pentium G3258 and a MSI motherboard (full ATX - but a solid board): http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/G3258Bundle.aspx

If you haven't already pulled the trigger on the proc/mobo, that might be worth looking at.

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2015, 01:59:27 am »
My pc specs are ......Intel core 2 6300 @1.86 GHz
                              500gb Hard drive
                              ATI Radeon 5450
                              2gb ram
I got it from the local computer shop for $200 australian used, which is about $160 USD
And it runs Hyperspin smoothly and plays HD pc games like MKKE,StreetfighterXtekken,Ultra SF4 at medium seetings at 60 fps
IT does struggle to run Playstation 2,and demul which is dreamcast or saturn i think.

But if you only intend on running hyperspin and mame you certainly dont need to spend $600 on a pc
The link that BadMouth posted , those pc's for $200 are more than enough for what you need.
Also if you shop around on ebay, they have a ton of used/refurbished desk tops with better or similar specs to mine for around $200-$250 USD.

Anyway the components you mentioned to build your own sound pretty sick if you dont mind spending the $$$ it will run everything from mame to Call of Duty.

I would like to upgrade mine one day so i can play injustice gods , COD and all the new HD pc games
my first build classic style upright cabinet..... MARVELOUS FIGHTER (FINISHED) http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133066.0.html

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2015, 08:57:31 am »
I already spent the money...

I should have this one done by the end of the week. I really wish I would NOT have put the holes in on the sides, it is making it a ---smurfette--- to line up the monitor and control panel, but I am making it work.

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2015, 02:17:49 pm »
Keep powering ahead, it's looking great!

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2015, 02:30:43 pm »
Thanks, I am waiting for a few parts (some wire connectors for the lights). I didn't realize they were coming from China :(

I did get the control panel completed and built the computer. I can't find my external DVD drive to install Windows so I ordered one from Amazon, waiting for that too. Hopefully I will have most of it complete by next week, or at least some progress pics.

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2015, 06:49:34 pm »
If you're looking to burn some time (maybe lots of time) you can look into making a "boot disc" out of a USB drive.  You can use this to install the OS, instead of waiting for the DVD drive.  It might be more work than it's worth, especially if you have the drive en route.  Just a thought.

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2015, 07:51:06 pm »
Yeah, I was going to do that until I realized I was still waiting for other parts that are holding me up. Thanks for the suggestion though.

While I wait, I decided to build a Vigolix for a daycare this weekend :D

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2015, 11:37:38 am »
Didn't get as far as I had hoped on the Vigolix, but here is where I am with that:




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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2015, 11:40:21 am »
Round that top off, man, lest you trip and impale yourself on it.
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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2015, 11:52:45 am »
Round that top off, man, lest you trip and impale yourself on it.

Probably should considering it is for a Daycare ;)

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2015, 02:19:02 pm »
Well, finished the Vigolix for the daycare. Here are some pics and a pic of my (slow) progress on the standup:





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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2015, 02:59:03 pm »
Lucky daycare kids!  :cheers: Looks very clean.

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2015, 10:54:27 am »
Here is the 3D model so far:


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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2015, 10:17:37 am »
how are you liking that screen angle?  It looks close to 30deg?  ???

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2015, 10:43:10 am »
I played it a bit and I kind of like the angle. The angle was forced due to the port holes :(

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2015, 12:57:17 pm »
I bet the angle is nice (larger monitors are harder to see well when they are up close and at 15deg angle).  My 15deg angle monitor took some getting used to because of the size.  I assumed you wouldn't have any "adjustment" issues I did because of your angle.

Thanks for letting me know!

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2015, 01:00:04 pm »
Finally got around to working on this again. There is a strip under the monitor that I am thinking of adding a couple of discreet black buttons for Pause, Power, and Admin (tab) and maybe coin buttons, but right now I have the reject buttons acting as coin buttons. Here are a couple of pics of how it looks so far:




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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2015, 02:47:03 pm »
I think this one is great! Not to flashy, but enough eye candy. The over/under door doesn't look at all out of place. Great job!

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2015, 07:56:25 am »
I think this one is great! Not to flashy, but enough eye candy. The over/under door doesn't look at all out of place. Great job!

Thanks for the compliment :) I am actually pretty happy with it so far.

I bought an orange button to be the power button on the strip under the monitor, but now I am worried it will stand out too much and will probably just do black.

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2015, 01:57:11 pm »
Yea, I would choose black as well, no need for the start button to stand out so much.  :cheers:

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2015, 02:02:07 pm »
Are there any buttons that people really like to have? I was just thinking Pause, Power, and Admin, but anything else?

Also, should I keep the coin buttons in the coin reject, or put them on the "admin" panel as well?

And last question, should I put the power button somewhere more out of the way, or is the "admin" panel fine?

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #64 on: June 03, 2015, 10:25:55 pm »
Are there any buttons that people really like to have? I was just thinking Pause, Power, and Admin, but anything else?

Also, should I keep the coin buttons in the coin reject, or put them on the "admin" panel as well?

And last question, should I put the power button somewhere more out of the way, or is the "admin" panel fine?

Buttons you should have:
1. Admin button (hidden)
2. Power button (hidden)
3. Pause button (on the CP) - maybe 2 (one easily accessible for P1 and P2)
That's it for non-player buttons.

As for the coin button, do whatever floats your boat.

Cheers!
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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2015, 06:07:39 pm »
I would have no admin or pause buttons at all, like on real arcade machines. Remember that time you hit PAUSE in the arcades? No, that's right, you never did. I would instead make the player 1 start button a SHIFT button, so if you hold it, you'll get to exit the game (ESCAPE key) when you press P1 FIRE1 (or PAUSE for lame scenarios).

This is of course just my opinion. :cheers:

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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2015, 11:33:56 am »
I would have no admin or pause buttons at all, like on real arcade machines. Remember that time you hit PAUSE in the arcades? No, that's right, you never did. I would instead make the player 1 start button a SHIFT button, so if you hold it, you'll get to exit the game (ESCAPE key) when you press P1 FIRE1 (or PAUSE for lame scenarios).

This is of course just my opinion. :cheers:

I think I am going to agree with you, I have been trying to stick (sort of) close to authentic without a bunch of buttons, so, I will not be adding any more. On a side note, I am converting the arcade to a San Francisco Giants theme, here is a quick 3D model. Anyone know where I can find mini wooden Bats for the joystick handle?


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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2015, 11:44:09 am »
Anyone know where I can find mini wooden Bats for the joystick handle?

I'd try eBay.
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Re: Scratch build Slim Cab
« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2016, 06:07:40 pm »
OK, I am finally putting in the finishing touches on this one. I am 99% done. I am just waiting for a coin release light and am having one big issue.

I have a Mini-Pac that works great, but every once in a while, when I turn the machine on, none of the arcade controls work. I exit out of Hyperspin, open notepad and test all the controls and they do work. Then I open Hyperspin again and sometimes it works, other times I have to unplug the USB to the Mini-Pac and plug back in. Does anyone have any idea how to stop this from happening?