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Best "all purpose" 8 way?
jimmer:
What's your budget OP?
I'll throw my hat in the ring; I'm going to sell grommet centred sticks with choice of snap micro, zero hysteresis micro, leaf, and optical switches.
And with new actuation patterns (closer diagonals)
Don't expect change from $80 (or $110 for the optical)
Slugworth:
--- Quote from: jimmer on September 02, 2014, 06:51:26 pm ---What's your budget OP?
I'll throw my hat in the ring; I'm going to sell grommet centred sticks with choice of snap micro, zero hysteresis micro, leaf, and optical switches.
And with new actuation patterns (closer diagonals)
Don't expect change from $80 (or $110 for the optical)
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I don't really have a budget, but I need to be able to justify (to myself) the money I'm spending. I guess I'm having a hard time doing that with a $50+ stick (x2) when I haven't even tried the $12 sticks. Maybe once I get my arcade up and running and log in some hours I'll have a better idea of what I like / don't like in a stick in terms of spring, diagonals, etc. At that point I'll probably reevaluate and consider a premium product.
pbj:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,141159.0/topicseen.html
Go, go, go.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: pbj on September 02, 2014, 05:40:06 pm ---Put up or shut up, Randy.
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Patience, grasshopper.
--- Quote from: jadder on September 02, 2014, 05:41:12 pm ---im sure you have your own list of test games but for what it's worth, here is what i look for when choosing an 8-way stick:
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Don't see an issue with any of the games listed. Think "WICO Leaf" but better (yes, I went there :) )
Malenko:
--- Quote from: RandyT on September 03, 2014, 12:37:32 pm --- Think "WICO Leaf" but better (yes, I went there :) )
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Not possible. I was an arcade manage for like a decade and man, while I'd have to lube up and service every other stick in the arcade, the 2 things I never had to fix were the WICO leafs and the Race Driving steering wheel. Those sticks never needed adjusting out of the box, and when I shaolin toe stabbed it while playing the original street fighter, I double perfected Akuma. Heck, I used to hate leafs... but then I was shown the reasons how and why, by some other Passionate souls... and have since tried to spread that knowledge myself. The correct controls are what makes the difference.. Far more important than the discomfort of the reach... and even supersedes the actual Placement and arrangement. I Highly suggest seeking out the real deal, and learning the "Float" technique. Its money and effort that are well worth the investment. Real leaf switches are really needed for the fast shooting, and are far less fatiguing than using microswitches. Also, using a joysitck will be too sloppy and slow for turning the ship... due to the long travel from one side to the other... and back again.
Playing anything without a WICO leaf is like gardening with a plumber's wrench! Yeah it'll dig and kill weeds but its just not the right tool for the job! Reminds when this kid was trying to play Defender with a plumber's wrench, kid kept trying to rapid fire but kept bottoming out instead of floating the buttons. What a ---smurfing--- newb right? I shaolin Toe stabbed him in the face, I felt bad cause I think I ended his gaming career on accident, but he knew I meant business! I cite analogies of non mechanical nature.. for those whom do not have very good mechanical experience and understandings... so that anyone can understand these principles... if they care to. The problem is that a lot of people have a chip on their shoulders.. and the again.. are siding with Friendships and feelings.. rather than actually absorbing knowledge. Meanwhile.. they are throwing jabs and hooks... attacking. And so then Ill eventually bite back.. but pretty much only after Ive put down all the points, and tried to maintain civility.
Boring cabinet is boring. You sound as adventurous as a Fish in a Fishbowl. If you can Duplicate a Painting, sculpture, or anything else... The experiences that the original gave off.. is pretty much the same that will result in a high quality replication. Again.. your only looking at things from a limited perspective.. and not honestly. Look again. I do cite my experience, just as anyone with experience in a field would do. Thats because with 3 yrs of mechanical repairs on arcade machines in a busy arcade... filled with many old and not-so-well-kept games... you tend to learn a thing to 1000.
Now, I know that doesnt mean much, but Ive been doing karate and kung fu for like 20 years, so my opinion is FACT JACK! So before you Jump off the Deep end to reply.. Read what Ive said in non-anger speak, and then consider looking in the mirror to boot. I play Fighting games like Tekken III, Killer Instinct, Metal Slug, Ridge Racer ; so I know what Im talking about.
Please not the area of disagreement, with backing proof rebuttal.
Ohh, and Btw ... As I type all of these massive Walls of text... for the many years Ive done so... I do not have any Carple Tunnel issues...
YET... my wrist are currently bent at the forearm - to form about a 35 to 45 degree angle, while typing on this Laptop.
The wrists are made to flex a bit, and thats not really the big issue in such injuries. The problem comes from a constant, no-rest, usage... and the person not flexing and stretching the wrists often.. using a full range of motion roll and or shake.
As such, the muscles and tendons get way too tight... and start to knot up, and things get Ugly from there.
Many people have back injuries due to a similar reason. If your back into stretched and flexible... the muscles will be taught. If the muscles twitch suddenly, and voilently.. they will pull the very bones they are connected to, out of place. Hence, often need a Chiropractor to pop them back in place... as well as a lot of rest and relaxation, for the swelling, tearing, and injured / inflamed areas... to get back to normal.
So, if you are doing something with incredible intensity... non stop, rapidly... take many short breaks, and roll, stretch, and shake out the stress. Take a few deep breaths in and out to increase the O2 content, as well as to increase bloodflow pressure... and shake the blood back into the area of tension. As often, a tense area of use can get places where the tension has caused bloodflow to be weak in certain areas... and that compounds the issue over time.
This is why its so important in any straining situation, to breath regularly rather than to clam up and hold your breath. And why things like Martial arts... Tai Chi, Qigong, and even Yoga... promote and create great positive health changes. Slow deep constantly intense breathing, with the motions. Super saturation of o2, with a relaxed state of the body. Relaxed and flexible muscles, that work with fluidity, and graceful 'pinpoint precision' control.
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