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Do LED monitors really look this crappy with mame?
RandyT:
I hate to say this, but the best chance of emulating a CRT is going to be the 4k displays, a pantload of graphic horsepower and custom code. Someone will do it as a "lark", the prices will comes down, and it will be the norm. You just need to hoard CRTS until then 8)
8BitMonk:
--- Quote from: DaveMMR on February 27, 2014, 06:50:39 pm ---You could try a hardware solution - like this:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,129344.0.html
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I forgot to mention that I have a mini SLG (the original not the 2x) as well and wasn't happy with the results. It's better than without but still nowhere near the experience of an actual arcade monitor. I'm with Randy on hoarding, hopefully my Betson doesn't crap out anytime soon. I'm thinking an LCD like this http://na.suzohapp.com/all_catalogs/monitors/49-2861-20 might be a good alternative as you could supposedly pair it with an AVGA.
I'm surprised I see so many new cab designs with LCD or LED in the 16:9 aspect ratio when they're so clearly inferior for classic games. Granted they look great for modern PC games but why would I want to play those on my cab except for maybe a couple fighting games. For mame and classic arcade games I don't see how anyone who's seen both side-by-side could make the argument against a true arcade monitor.
yotsuya:
--- Quote from: 8BitMonk on February 27, 2014, 10:15:55 pm ---I'm surprised I see so many new cab designs with LCD or LED in the 16:9 aspect ratio when they're so clearly inferior for classic games. Granted they look great for modern PC games but why would I want to play those on my cab except for maybe a couple fighting games. For mame and classic arcade games I don't see how anyone who's seen both side-by-side could make the argument against a true arcade monitor.
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I just think most builders use what's on hand or easy to find. I'm with you, though. CRT FTW.
ChanceKJ:
Yes yes yes, and in your day you all had to walk 15 miles to school when the horse "broke down". In winter. With 5 feet of snow. Up hill, BOTH ways.
...in rubber boots.
Actually this brings up an interesting question. I had been toying with going to a pawn shop or equivalent and finding an old 14-17" CRT for my PacMan plug and play bartop project. Is it worth spending $20 to buy an old little colour TV for a project like this and just strip it of the case? are those small TV's "good enough" for something like this?
Paul Olson:
--- Quote from: 8BitMonk on February 27, 2014, 10:15:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: DaveMMR on February 27, 2014, 06:50:39 pm ---You could try a hardware solution - like this:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,129344.0.html
--- End quote ---
I forgot to mention that I have a mini SLG (the original not the 2x) as well and wasn't happy with the results. It's better than without but still nowhere near the experience of an actual arcade monitor. I'm with Randy on hoarding, hopefully my Betson doesn't crap out anytime soon. I'm thinking an LCD like this http://na.suzohapp.com/all_catalogs/monitors/49-2861-20 might be a good alternative as you could supposedly pair it with an AVGA.
I'm surprised I see so many new cab designs with LCD or LED in the 16:9 aspect ratio when they're so clearly inferior for classic games. Granted they look great for modern PC games but why would I want to play those on my cab except for maybe a couple fighting games. For mame and classic arcade games I don't see how anyone who's seen both side-by-side could make the argument against a true arcade monitor.
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I used an arcade monitor for about 8 years. It looked good, but it was a pain to mess with. I always wanted to use the bezel artwork in MAME, but it looked terrible on the low res monitor. Now I use an LCD TV, and I like it. Most games look great if you take the time to tweak them with hlsl. The last time I tried vectors, they weren't working right with hlsl, but that is still being worked on.
I have owned around 50 arcade games in the last 6 years. I can play a game out in the gameroom, then play it on MAME, and it really isn't a big difference even if I haven't taken the time with the shaders. A game that is displayed too big is worse for me than the sharpness of the LCD. I try to get the actual game screen to be the original size, then fill the rest of the TV up with artwork.
This is a DK layout I was working on a couple of years ago. I would guess most people would have to look at that pretty hard to realize that is on an LCD.
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