Got an OUYA......what now ? Must have apps, etc ?

[mike boss]

Picked up an OUYA thru Amazon.ca, $70 + free shipping.
I installed XBMC (from the OUYA store) and most of the emulators.
I moved over a ton of ROMS to a flashdrive and tested some of the emulators.
Easy to navigate and worked well....so I'm happy.
Really it simply does what my old gen1 XBOX does....but it's smaller, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and HDMI...so this all add to it I.M.H.O .

As I search the web I'm shocked to see all the info and  various opinions.
Makes it hard (for me) to figure out what I really want to/need to add to get the most from my OUYA.

I think I'll need to sideload the other version of XBMC but over and above that any input with respects to "must haves" would be great.

[mike boss]

I should add :

When I set up my man cave I hooked up all my old consoles. Atari Flashback, the various Nintendo consoles, PS1, PS2, and a Gen1 XBOX. I also had my Wii and XBOX 360 hooked up also. I made one HUGE mistake though! My 55" Samsung only had one input for standard video OR component video. What I did was hook up the Wii and console switcher box to the same connection. I used a "Y" adapter to do so. The issue is the TV can tell that all 5 connections are used, YPbPr + the audio. So when I goto play the NES for example the TV is looking for the rest of the signal. All my hard work is worth nothing. I cant play my old consoles.

When I purchased the OUYA a HUGE part of the draw was the ability to have all these old consoles in one small lil box, HDMI hook up, and wireless game pads.

--- My goal is to get all the best emulators installed and working well.

--- I'd like to get my XBMC (or sideloaded version of XBMC) fully working and set up         with all the best add-on's. (Help with add-on's would be great)

--- Lastly I'd love to find some cheap game pads (wireless) that work with the OUYA.
I always like to have 4 game pads per console. The OUYA is the same, but not $40 game pads. So any help with these issues would be great.

Thanks all

[Generic Eric]

Games I played and liked:
No Brakes Valet!
There was a wipeout clone that looked fun.  1 level or $2.99 to unlock I think.

Games I have played on other systems that were fun and are also on OUYA:
Sine Mora - If you haven't played this yet, play it now.
Choplifter HD
Boost 2.  I have this on my iPod and think its fun


On my list once I reconnect my OUYA:
Soul Fjord

So other commonly mentioned games:
Maldita Castilla
Donkey Me (movie based donkey kong skins - Star Wars, Indiana Jones


Check out the list where I found these: https://www.ouya.tv/games/

[Slippyblade]

In you guy's opinion, how's the controller?

I'm on the fence about just piecing together a cheap-o comp as a media center or going th Ouya route.  The controller may well be the deal maker.

[mike boss]

I just sideloaded XBMC as per this guide : http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_OUYA

Now I need to get the best add-on's !

[Generic Eric]

In you guy's opinion, how's the controller?

I'm on the fence about just piecing together a cheap-o comp as a media center or going the Ouya route.  The controller may well be the deal maker.

Here is a forum thread with a list of compatible controllers.
http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?3673-LIST-Controllers-That-Work-With-OUYA

You'll find PS3, wii, and wired and wireless xbox360 controllers. 

My opinion was that it did feel light.  Sometimes the buttons seemed sketchy, but not enough to do any real investigating, so take it with a grain of salt.

[knave]

Congrats on your OUYA, I love mine and am getting one for my other TV soon.

I've had mine since June 2013 and it is a great sytem. Though its not perfect.

For XBMC, it looks like you are set. But if you want to look into different versions, check out SPMC: Semper Media Center is an unofficial fork of the official XBMC on OUYA app.  This one came to life after Ouya had to withdraw Dolby/DTS decoding support from the official app due to licensing issues.

For extra controllers I would reccomend PS3 gamepads. They sync easily and work for almost all the games. (Only a few of the original launch games don't support them).
I like the OUYA controler in terms of feel, and For me the main buttons are fine...but the analogue sticks just don't seem to have the quality of the PS3 or XBox360 versions.
Note: wired xbox 360 pads also work, wireless with the dongle.

Get a USB hub...just be careful of the really cheap ones. If you plan to plug much into it at once make it a powered hub.

Then all you really need is a Flash drive. The OUYAs 8 gigs (5 usable) fill up fast. But you can install games and roms on the flash drive...

I picked up a mini usb keyboard...but I never really use it.

Install Filepwn: Its a file manager app that lets you copy, move, and delete files around the system.

Thats enough for now, I'll come back with a game list later.

[Generic Eric]

@knave
Is the external drive sorted now?  Months ago, if you plugged in a USB drive, it wouldn't see it.

Thanks for your answers.

[knave]

Most of the issues with USB drives have been fixed. Installing games to external storage is "in Beta" but has been working for me with no issues.

I have a 16 gb usb drive with about 10 gigs of games for emulators and about 5 left for additional OUYA games. I havn't had issues with storage since they patched that in.

That said...use a file manager app, either Filepwn or Astro etc...to look for your drive. Usb storage of roms and media has worked from day one but there was a bug for a bit where the drive didn't show up in the "storage" settings menu but it does now. I think I set up the emulation about a week in and I've always used a USB drive...swapping a 4gb drive for the 16 I use now. Some folks use a HD. In any case they work and you can install games to external drives now.

@Slippyblade. If you are worried about the controller, they have a revised controller comming out with new units that addresses many peoples complaints or so I read. Those with issues are told to RMA them...but My controllers are fine...the only lag I've had was when I got too far away, 15-20 ft and my batteries were almost dead. But there is no reason not to use a PS3 controller if you don't like the stock one.  I have also used an aftermarket logitec wireless controller. But in the end I prefer to just use the OUYA pad.

@mike. If you search for OUYA on the forum here you'll find my initial review and that I was pretty happy with the system dispite some negative thoughts from others.  I like it more than ever now.

As for games. There are lots of good, fun games...and it is even easier than ever to find them.

Rather than make suggestions of specific titles, (you can find some in my initial reviews), I'd suggest you spend some time trying out the top games in the "trending" section of Discover. They are all Free to try and many of the good ones can be had for $5 or less.

I will mention one that I was playing tonight though: Twin Tiger Shark

It is a pretty fun virtical Shmup AND it has TATE settings. I thought that was cool.
No I didn't turn my HDTV on its side but it still made me dream of sticking it in a cab with a huge HD screen.

Another great aspect of playing the OUYA is that there are more and more games to play "couch multiplayer". If you have buddies/kids check em out.

[mike boss]

Thank you for the info.
For now my main goal is getting XBMC tricked out.
Adding select add-ons, all be it I'm not sure which are best.
There is SOOOOOOOOOO much reading...it makes it hard.
I know (off hand) Navi-X, Adu!t Devil ?, Mash Up is one I heard about also.
I found some guide (link escapes me now)...but I plan on following it when I get home tonight.
My friend said its what he did and he was set, so I might delete the install I did and use the link.
Perhaps I'll post before I do so. All be it, perhaps I can keep my build and simply add what I want ?
(forgive the lack of know how here..........I'm not sure of the best route)

My plan was/is to get a 32GB Flash Drive just for use on the OUYA.
I'll also get a micro SD card, also 32GB just for use on the OUYA.
I figure that is only a $40 or so investment, all my ROMS will be on the flash drive.
I figure 32GB should hold my complete sets, including full MAME set, and select PS1 titles that I would play.

I may look for some used PS3 game pads on the cheap.

[ark_ader]

Any any SMB apps available?

[knave]

Any any SMB apps available?

I have xbmc pointed to my smb share.

[mike boss]

So tonight I decided I'd work on tweaking the OUYA a little more.
Found a few guides online and did some messing around.
I have two builds of XBMC installed, the OUYA store version and a sideloaded one.
The sideloaded one is LOADED to the max with various add-on's, from sports, adult, various movie and tv options.
I still need to play around with it a lil more.
Today when I was testing of the 8 or so items I tried to load 6 would not load.
Is this common ?
I ask because I watched some YouTube videos and one user really inspired me to "trick this sucker out."
In the videos everything he tried worked.............I had no such luck.

Anyway I also ordered three of these : http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/madcatz-madcatz-ghost-recon-wireless-playstation-3-gamepad-grf88567001-grf88567001/10276054.aspx?path=71a8d2e6eabe6852d82bbefb2bf42b29en02

They may not work and for $7 (the cost of one) I figured it was worth a shot.
I like to have 4 controllers for all my consoles and right now I'm happy with this OUYA.
But what good is it if the buddies and I can't play Mario Kart or Bond ?

[Howard_Casto]

Honestly it would be hard to play Mario Kart or Goldeneye without a N64 controller.  Not impossible, but it would certainly feel wrong. 

It was my understanding that the Ouya supported most HID usb joysticks.  Wouldn't it make more sense to get a USB hub and either get some 360 controllers or some of those n64 usb knockoffs?

[mike boss]

I did not realzie when I bought these that they are 2.5GHZ controllers.
Not Bluetooth like the PS3 controller.

These controllers I bought have the USB adapter.
I wonder if I could use the HUB and use these controllers ?
It would give me the wireless like I want.

For that matter perhaps I could get the generic XBOX 360 Wireless controllers with the USB adapter ?

I can look into the N64 knockoffs also, but something more universal like the ones in the link are good also (for general gaming).

[mike boss]

I can't find the link now to the generic 360 controllers, but they are about $12 each.

They require this from what I understand :

url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Wireless-Gaming-Controller-USB-Receiver-Adapter-For-XBOX-360-OH-/261339778548?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3cd9108df4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Wireless-Gaming-Controller-USB-Receiver-Adapter-For-XBOX-360-OH-/261339778548?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3cd9108df4[/url]

So perhaps a USB hub, then 1 or 2 of these adapters (as I'd like 4 controllers) ?
The official XBOX product can do upto 4 controllers !
I'll try to find the link for the controllers.

[knave]

For the OUYA specifically:
You can use a hub and plug all those controllers in, it should work as long as they are designed to use multiple.

The xbox wireless dongle works...it just reserves the first four controller slots(always). That's one reason I prefer the ps3 pads. But its a non issue if you are playing with four or more people. (OUYA supports up to 8 )

See my post in another thread about gamepads for links to amazon and xbox wireless info:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,137843.msg1423992.html#msg1423992

I'm a noob when it comes to XBMC, I had only briefly checked it out a few times before getting the OUYA. With that in mind it has always been something that required tinkering. Sometimes a stream won't work...So I use the next one...

Once I had to update the plugins...I just google it and usually find some vid on Youtube with instructions. Most of the time...it just works, kinda like magic.
As far as I can tell, these issues are the same for XBMC across any platform.

[mike boss]

For the OUYA specifically:
You can use a hub and plug all those controllers in, it should work as long as they are designed to use multiple.

The xbox wireless dongle works...it just reserves the first four controller slots(always). That's one reason I prefer the ps3 pads. But its a non issue if you are playing with four or more people. (OUYA supports up to 8 )

See my post in another thread about gamepads for links to amazon and xbox wireless info:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,137843.msg1423992.html#msg1423992

I'm a noob when it comes to XBMC, I had only briefly checked it out a few times before getting the OUYA. With that in mind it has always been something that required tinkering. Sometimes a stream won't work...So I use the next one...

Once I had to update the plugins...I just google it and usually find some vid on Youtube with instructions. Most of the time...it just works, kinda like magic.
As far as I can tell, these issues are the same for XBMC across any platform.

@ knave

You think the Ghost Recon controllers will work ? Because I'd be stoked if so. For $25 shipped (for the three) that is a steal. I can pick up a powered hub for under $10, so thats a good investment. Not to mention I THINK the PS3 controllers (in this the Ghost Recon ones) can be used on PC applications.

Off topic, but one project I'm working on is adding a really ticked out PC to my MARIO MAME cabinet.
The PC will have Hyperspin and a ton of PC emulation. I was hoping to have some form of wireless game pad for console gaming. So if these Ghost Recon PS3 controllers can be used with the OUYA and PC project that would be great.

Back on topic.................. I'll look for now for info on the multiples, emailing Mad Catz if needed.

[knave]

@ knave

You think the Ghost Recon controllers will work ?
Back on topic.................. I'll look for now for info on the multiples, emailing Mad Catz if needed.

I am pretty confident they will work...but possible issues would be that the button presses may not be the same. I have a Logitec controller that I got with my PS3. It works fine with the OUYA but the buttons don't match.

Really If you already ordered them I would wait until they get there and try one out...see what the buttons do, then try out two using the hub...It probably will work...unless they interfere with each other...

In some games you can map your own buttons...just like in the emulators...

[mike boss]

Thanks knave.

They will be in this week.
I'm looking to order a USB hub now.
Fingers crossed these bad boys work !

EDIT - Sent an email to MadCatz asking about multiple controllers on the one console.
I went on over to eBay and ordered a powered hub for $7.
I (for some reason) could not find the wireless generic controllers, I did however find the adapter.
Either way I think for $35 this is a good investment. Lets just HOPE they work !

[mike boss]

OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
These came today.
Still no word from MadCatz on multiples, just looked at my PS3....I noticed only two USB inputs............hoping these work.
The price was soooooooooooo good !

[knave]

let us know how they work...

[mike boss]

I'll post the results for sure.
As of this morning still no response from MadCatz.
I've also been unable to find any info online about the controller  and any issue that could exist setting up multiple.

I have an opinion question for you guys. From what I gather most PS3 controllers require initial sync via wired connection... .which is fine. I plan on testing one, making sure it works, should it not I'll return the others.
(or perhaps keep them for PC projects ? - I have a PS3 I got for free, but it's broken, dont know if I'll invest to fix it) Sorry........back to the question ! Any harm is using a NON POWERED USB hub w/ 4 connection just to charge two controllers and connect my Flash Drive (ROM storage) ? I don't want to draw too much power from the OUYA.

Thanks

EDIT - When/If these work I'll keep all three, using the powered USB Hub I ordered to keep them connected/charge them, as well as connect the USB Flash Drive.

[yotsuya]

YMMV - I've seen some devices that won't charge unless it's on a powered hub, I've seen some that won't charge on a powered hub UNLESS it's connected to a computer... honestly, your best bet is to try one and see. 

[mike boss]

Got word from MadCatz. They said if the USB ports are available, and I plug these in 1 at a time they should work!
I responded and mentioned I'd be using a powered hub and an OUYA. I know they will have no info on the OUYA, but perhaps they could provide some info on the powered hub.

Tons of stuff on the agenda tonight. But some OUYA time is on the books for this weekend.

[knave]

I charge one ps3 controller with out issue on my non-powered hub with a 16 gig usb drive also plugged in.

Try the madcatz already...you should be able to test out one on the ouya itself...and you can try a couple with a non powered hub...

[mike boss]

Trying them today................I promise !

[mike boss]

Ok, tried one of three.
Painless and easy.
Plugged in the receiver and away I went.
It put my OUYA controller to # 2, I'd like to get that back to one (because I'm so particular like that).
In the NES & SNES emulator I configured the controller and it was perfect.
However I have one question, and this may not be the place......................
The OUYA recognizes the controller, and it appears in name in the emulator menu.
When I configured the keys and left the profile as MULTIPLE the controller wouldn't work.
When I set the profile to # 2, it works.
What I'm trying to find out is, is there a way where I can set a profile for this KIND of controller, and be it # 2, #3, or #4 because it's MadCatz it would assume the profile. Does this make sense

If needed I'll configure each one in each emulator, but I'm thinking there has to be an easy way.
And how to I get the controller back to #1 (I want the PS3 controllers to be 2,3, and 4).
To be particular, I'll likely just add a sticker to each controller and receiver indication what number it is.

[mike boss]

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[mike boss]

So I tried my luck with the PS3 controllers.
First one paired and worked without any issues.
It registered as controller 1, my OUYA controller was controller 2.
Oddly when I put the console to sleep and turned it back on it was not showing the PS3 controller.
The profile was there, but the controller would not register.
Power down and back on seemed to do the trick.

So now I went onto controller 3 & 4 (B,C). All of the three PS3 controllers lit up and indicated controller one.
MadCatz had said if I had available USB ports all should be fine, but I guess since its a HUB really it is only 1 port ?
As you can see from the images the OUYA did show I had 4 controllers set up.
The OUYA in the emulator screen showed MadCatz, MadCatz2, MadCatz 3. And I assigned them player 2 thru 4.
However when I would try to use one and adjust the buttons it would say I'm trying to adjust controller 2 every time.
I think because they all lit up as #1 that was why.

No idea how I can resolve this.

[knave]

Ps3 controllers always blink on the first led even if they are successfully paired as the 2nd 3rd controller. To my knowledge the ouya just adds controllers in the order it detects them.

[mike boss]

I'll play around a lil more tonight.
I was having some trouble with the N64 emulator so I couldn't really find a good 4 player game to test on.
Perhaps I'll see if I can fire up Mario Kart tonight and try testing.

[mike boss]

My USB Hub came in on Tuesday.
I'm yet to play around with it.................no time !
But I'll try to do some testing this week.
I'll post the results.
Really hope I can get these all working on the OUYA @ the same time.
I think if all else fails the plus is I will have two controllers for a PC based project I'm working on.
For $7 a pop I truly cant complain about these.

[knave]

Looks good, from the info you've posted thus far the controllers should work fine. I'm not sure about emulated games but to test out the controllers try out "hidden in plain sight"...the free version has two modes that support up to 4 players and the games aren't timed so you can test each controller in turn. really any multi-player game should work.

It is a fun game BTW. I play with my daughter all the time.

[mike boss]

BUMP!

Just an update (or non update of sorts I guess).
I have all I need now, powered hub, etc.
Just have not found the time to do the testing.
In reality the OUYA is getting minimal use, but that is based on keeping in the guest room.
Going to move it this weekend and do my joystick test.
I'm happy that I can get two controllers working, but 4 would be sooooooooooo sweet.
I'll post the results.

[pbj]

Adios Ouya....

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC/

[Generic Eric]

.

Adios Ouya....

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC/

Dammit

I need another box like I need a hole in the head, but if you are already invested in the Amazon eco system, this looks nice.  I am and I was hoping to side load my SonicCD amazon free app of the day on the OUYA.

OTOH,
Be nice and don't spoil his OUYA thread

[knave]

Adios Ouya....

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC/

Yes indeed...that's been the topic today at the OUYA forum...

Too bad it doesn't run XBMC or HBOgo or I'd order one right now.

Kinda sux that the controller is not included, or an HDMI cable (though less of an issue) Still only 8gigs of storage! they should have learned from the OUYA on that one...the cloud storage is not a substitute.
I will wait and watch...some of the games look really good...when this comes down in price I may pick one up.

Until then I'll watch media on my trusty undead OUYA and my old timer Roku. LOL 

[pbj]

Well, the reason I never bought an ouya was they kept selling the thing for $60 plus extras and I missed the sale.  Knowing Amazon, this Fire TV will experience all kinds of crazy sales.

If it works with USB encoders and other game pads, I'm sold.

[ark_ader]

My Google TV stick plays all those titles, for $50 less....

[knave]

Well, the reason I never bought an ouya was they kept selling the thing for $60 plus extras and I missed the sale.  Knowing Amazon, this Fire TV will experience all kinds of crazy sales.

If it works with USB encoders and other game pads, I'm sold.

The best OUYA sale was a few days ago. $69 with $25 game credit...pretty cheap for what you get. I use mine everyday to watch shows I otherwise wouldn't have access to. Some of the games are creative and fun. but its no PS4 or Xbone.

I will pick up a fire TV for sure if it goes on sale...if only to play around with it.
It was reported that it will support other gamepads...Who knows...if it is similar to a kindle you can load your own apps...so might be able to still get xbmc and hbogo on it...I will keep an eye on it for sure.

[twistedsymphony]

I was a kick starter backer for Ouya (even bought the limited edition with 4 official controllers) ... I tried REALLY REALLY hard to like it but ultimately it's ended up kind of useless.

I don't know if it's because I have a really early console or really early controllers, or I'm just really unlucky or what but I have a MASSIVE amount of controller lag that makes almost everything on the console unplayable.

It's bad enough that sitting less than 10ft from the console if I put my legs up on the foot rest in front of my chair such that my knees are blocking the line of sight to the controller it looses communication and the console acts as if I'm still holding down whatever buttons or analog directions that I was holding when communication was lost.

Even when they do connect it's very laggy, the last game I tried was Soul Fjord, I didn't realize how bad the lag was until I played that and during calibration was seeing 200ms+ offsets. even after repeated calibration attempts.

It does this with all 4 controllers I bought, even Sony brand PS3 controllers, I'm on the latest firmware, I've tried the whole tipping the console on it's side and pointing it in different directions. etc.

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For a long while I put XBMC on there and was using it for media, and it worked decently for that, but it was annoying not being able to use an IR remote to control XMBC and it seemed like it never shut down properly either.... Then a little while ago ago it updated and Audio no longer worked. I checked online and found that due to some licensing issue they removed AC3 and DTS support from the official build... I side-loaded an older build but it got me looking at other options.

I had a Raspberry Pi and heard lots of good things about XBMC on that. so I loaded it up and not only does it work well, but it also supports IR via HDMI-CEC so now I can control XBMC from my TV remote. RPi is a little slower in the menus but over all it seems to function more reliably and has more features/support than the XBMC build.

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I'd love to use my OUYA for emulation or android games etc. but the input lag just makes it unusable and having spent over $200 between the limited edition console and 3 extra controllers I don't really feel like it's worth throwing any more money at this thing.


I know others don't seem to have any controller lag issues... I'm open to suggestions as to what I might be able to do with my Ouya to either fix it or re-purpose it given my situation. I'm not trying to hijack the thread, it was a "what can you do with an Ouya" thread so I figured I'd ask, essentially: "what I can I do with my Ouya?"

[knave]

[quote author=twistedsymphony link=topic=137940.msg1432686#msg1432686 date=1397073537
I'd love to use my OUYA for emulation or android games etc. but the input lag just makes it unusable and having spent over $200 between the limited edition console and 3 extra controllers I don't really feel like it's worth throwing any more money at this thing.

I know others don't seem to have any controller lag issues... I'm open to suggestions as to what I might be able to do with my Ouya to either fix it or re-purpose it given my situation. I'm not trying to hijack the thread, it was a "what can you do with an Ouya" thread so I figured I'd ask, essentially: "what I can I do with my Ouya?"
[/quote]

Controller lag totally sucks...I was one of the lucky ones and never saw any lag until my batteries were low. I'm assuming since you are asking that you are willing to try a few things...
Best option: Send in your controllers to get the 0x0104 "controller firmware" I know it's a pain, but I sent in two to get updated and it only cost $6 postage and the turn around was less than a week.
You said you had the latest firmware...but the controllers have firmware too. I can only speak from my own experience and what I've read but I am really pleased with the performance of my controllers after they've been flashed.

You've touched on XBMC...and their are at least two other versions available that are optimized for the OUYA that still have the audio codecs. I am very happy with SPMC and the generic "wizard" batch of plug ins. I don't have an answer for you about the remote...A remote that used a USB receiver might work... On my 2nd OUYA I use a mini keyboard to control XBMC...That works pretty well too...plus it is nice to type if I need to...I rarely use the controller on that one.
The games: Great thing about the OUYA is that a lot of little guys are making games for it. Heck! I might make a game for it someday...I've been gathering the software. Some of these new titles really breath some fresh air into gameplay even though they are graphically simple. There are new games constantly. And updates to old games.

I've been called a fanboy...but really I just have been open about my enjoyment.  I agree with all the criticisms...If the controllers don't work I might have thrown it in a box and forgotten about it too.

If you want it to look like a Rpi then pop it out of its case (eliminating any interference from the aluminum)...and even mod the antenna if you want. 

Anyway I hope that helps...feel free to PM me if you are looking for more resources...

knave

[northerngames]

from what I understand is all the original luanch controllers have a issue and was corrected more recent.

they even had a exchange for them at one point I thought.

[twistedsymphony]

Interesting I wasn't aware of any exchange program... I had emailed support WAY back  about the lag issue and they sent me some form letter response about making sure my TV was in game mode    of course it was... after that I made a video showing the TV's configuration and the lag experienced (using a pinball game since it was very clear how much lag there was from when I pushed the button until when the flipper responded on screen)... they never even responded to that email.

After that I gave up on gaming on the device aside from a few random "checks" after console firmware updates to see if anything had improved. (it never did)

Partly was aggravated because I was one of the first 1000 kickstarter backers and very vocal about encouraging people to check out the platform and I didn't receive my console until SEVERAL WEEKS AFTER it had launched in retails stores.

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Can anyone point me to more info on sending in the controllers for upgraded firmware... or even how I might upgrade the firmware myself?

[knave]

As far as I know we can't upgrade the controller firmware ourselves. Ouya support won't exchange the controllers but they will update them. To do so you open a ticket on the ouya.tv website under support. You will get an email asking you to check the firmware version... And then they will send you the address and a RMA number. For me it was pretty quick.

That sucks that you didn't get your ouya until after the retail release. While I was lucky...I hear many were not. Did you get your $13 game credit? They issued an apology and a credit for all the shipping delays.

[twistedsymphony]

As far as I know we can't upgrade the controller firmware ourselves. Ouya support won't exchange the controllers but they will update them. To do so you open a ticket on the ouya.tv website under support. You will get an email asking you to check the firmware version... And then they will send you the address and a RMA number. For me it was pretty quick.

That sucks that you didn't get your ouya until after the retail release. While I was lucky...I hear many were not. Did you get your $13 game credit? They issued an apology and a credit for all the shipping delays.

yes, I did get my $13.37 apology credit, though I never spent it on anything because I couldn't play anything due to the controller issue.

[knave]

Well, I encourage you to get the controllers sent in...They just released an update which fixes some of the XBMC issues...plus they've been having a bunch of game sales steam-like...and I've gotten a few good deals. You could try out a few and use that credit. Remember you can always use a PS3 controller. (or PC, or xbox 360 )

Here's what one guy did with an OUYA...put it in his truck! I think its cool.

[Anpanman]

Koying released an updated version of SPMC (v12.4.2).  That has been the best version for my OUYA and Fire TV so far. 

http://filez.semperpax.com/5r4ln85l

[Alistair Keith]

I got the Ouya, installed some emulators. Never really played it. The controller died on me recently and couldn't find a way to make it recognise an Xbox 360 controller.

Pretty much only used it to watch Netflix and Youtube (I installed the Google TV versions of those apps).

Kinda wishing I had just bought the Chromecast thing. The Ouya keeps giving me static shocks.

[yotsuya]

Kinda wishing I had just bought the Chromecast thing. The Ouya keeps giving me static shocks.

 

[knave]

I got the Ouya, installed some emulators. Never really played it. The controller died on me recently and couldn't find a way to make it recognise an Xbox 360 controller.

Pretty much only used it to watch Netflix and Youtube (I installed the Google TV versions of those apps).

Kinda wishing I had just bought the Chromecast thing. The Ouya keeps giving me static shocks.

Just send in your controller, or use a wireless keyboard, or PS3 controller. For Xbox 360 controllers you either have to use a "wired" one or have the wireless receiver.

...any of these will work to play your media...but you would be better off with something else if you don't use it for XBMC as well.

[SNAAKE]

If it works with USB encoders and other game pads, I'm sold.

can someone verify if usb encoders work with ouya ??

[twistedsymphony]

I just read the recent announcement officially stating that HDMI-CEC will not ever be available for "older" Ouya units which really bugs me becaue eventual support for that was something they promised pre-launch 

I switched back to Oyua for my XBMC needs since my Pi setup just all of a sudden refuses to boot. but I really hate having to use a game controller to navigate instead of my harmony remote.

Does anyone know of an IR adapter that will work with Ouya XBMC? Preferably something that doesn't look like crap.

[s_busby_uk]

Is an Ouya worth getting purely for emulation? I've been thinking of leaving just MAME on my cabinet and just having a small android device next to my TV to emulate old console stuff...

[knave]

Is an Ouya worth getting purely for emulation? I've been thinking of leaving just MAME on my cabinet and just having a small android device next to my TV to emulate old console stuff...

That depends on what's "worth it" for you. I put MAME, NES, Genesis, SNES, NeoGeo, and Playstation 1 on mine. Apparently the Dreamcast Emulator is working pretty well too...but I haven't tried it myself yet.

...For me that is all "totally" worth $99.

I still play more OUYA games on it. Loving the new retro games;  Galaxoid, Retro Racing , Twin Tiger Shark, and Gaurodan.

But the emulation is fun too...cough SF Alpha 3,...cough...addicted...cough cough.

I can't confirm the encoders...but the OUYA recognizes most usb gamepads and keyboards...so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Or you could just use a Xbox controller ?
The only encoder I have is a minipac from many years ago. or I would try it out. Someone has already built a cab out of an OUYA. I think he used an X-arcade, just in his own CP.

The choice is yours my friend.

[s_busby_uk]

That depends on what's "worth it" for you. I put MAME, NES, Genesis, SNES, NeoGeo, and Playstation 1 on mine. Apparently the Dreamcast Emulator is working pretty well too...but I haven't tried it myself yet.

...For me that is all "totally" worth $99.

Yeah that's pretty much the bulk of what I'm after - 16 bit stuff and the odd Playstation or N64 game thrown in for kicks.

But I guess what I also want is a nice GUI (can you still do al that emulation stuff through the OUYA frontend?); and do I even need an OUYA for that stuff or is there something cheaper and as capable? (And ideally not a JXD product from China?)

[nitrogen_widget]

I have an OUYA, SNES & Genesis emulations seems good to me.
Havn't seen an issue yet.

N64 works well also.
Even with the hi-def textures you can download.
Smash brothers & mario 3d look really nice for instance.

There is a great emulator frontend called nostalgia for OUYA.
well worth the $1 i paid for it.

[knave]

But I guess what I also want is a nice GUI (can you still do al that emulation stuff through the OUYA frontend?); and do I even need an OUYA for that stuff or is there something cheaper and as capable? (And ideally not a JXD product from China?)

I have not heard of anything cheaper that will emulate Playstation and N64. For the rest you can try something Linux based with a custom Frontend. Can the R-Pi do nes/genesis?
 

I don't use nostalgia, but it gets pretty good reviews. The stock OUYA UI isn't bad as a frontend...in fact it gets better each update.

The OUYA is not perfect but it sounds like you would get your moneys worth...

[ark_ader]

MK808B will perform similar to the OUYA on PSX and N64 emulators.  And it is cheaper too.

You might want to check if DroidMote will side load into the OUYA.  If you have a tablet with DroidMote, you can link the external gamepads with the DroidMote target device (the OUYA or MK808) from the the DroidMote host.  It is a work around but a cheaper option if you just HAVE TO play games on the OUYA.

[brdtt12]

If it works with USB encoders and other game pads, I'm sold.

can someone verify if usb encoders work with ouya ??

My brother and I have successfully gotten OUYAs to work with xin-mo and arduino mega 2560 boards. It took quite a bit of tinkering with KeyLayout files in order to get everything working correctly but we now have a fully functional arcade machine ran by the OUYA. Here are a couple links with a little more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2734586
http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?1667-Ouya-Arcade-Cabinet/page7

[pbj]

Fire TV was like $80 over the weekend.  Move along.   

[twistedsymphony]

MK808B will perform similar to the OUYA on PSX and N64 emulators.  And it is cheaper too.

I played around with the MK808B at my work and was pretty impressed... it actually ends up being cheaper than a Raspberry Pi once you figure in the cost of a small SD card, and cheapo case.

I've been debating buying one to use in lieu of the Ouya but I needs something with either an IR receiver or something that supports HDMI-CEC... So far no one can give me a straight answer if the MK808B does.

[Alistair Keith]

Is an Ouya worth getting purely for emulation? I've been thinking of leaving just MAME on my cabinet and just having a small android device next to my TV to emulate old console stuff...

The Ouya is great, although it is limited due to Android. It is already rooted so you can customise the software it comes with. See XDA to see what customisations you can make. You can also hook up an external drive. The bonus for me using the Ouya is the portability. Although is is a annoying that I need to add a new WiFi every time I move around (and to do that I need to forget the current one).

You won't be able to customise it as much as a PC running MAME.

[ark_ader]

MK808B will perform similar to the OUYA on PSX and N64 emulators.  And it is cheaper too.

I played around with the MK808B at my work and was pretty impressed... it actually ends up being cheaper than a Raspberry Pi once you figure in the cost of a small SD card, and cheapo case.

I've been debating buying one to use in lieu of the Ouya but I needs something with either an IR receiver or something that supports HDMI-CEC... So far no one can give me a straight answer if the MK808B does.

This looks like your huckleberry.

[mike boss]

Too many projects and not enough time!
Going back to the earlier part of this thread I was going to test 3 USB Wireless PS3 controlers. I picked up a Powered USB hub and I was good to go.
HOWEVER............. I'm yet to do the testing and yet to bring the OUYA down to the man cave (basement).

I will still I still like the OUYA for emulation and streaming. But for gaming I will say the stock game pad really does suck. I cant even toss a fire ball in Street Fighter II on the SNES.

Trying to prioritize things and get one thing done before moving onto another.
This is still on the list, just not that important. Mind you it is a waste of money if I dont get these tested and in use.

[twistedsymphony]

This looks like your huckleberry.

Thanks for the link but that doesn't help me. I need something that will let me use my Logitech Harmony remote. that means I need an IR receiver, or HDMI-CEC which will let me use the IR Receiver in my TV.... RF and Blue-Tooth devices wont work.

[s_busby_uk]

For what its worth, I sent my OUYA back. Felt a bit clunky and slow, and if you're not that adept at sideloading custom ROMS and the like then you're left with their main GUI, which is ultimately a shop of sorts. It wasn't awful by any means, but as I only wanted to use mine for emulation, it didn't provide the smooth experience I was after.

Frustratingly, I can't find any way of deleting my OUYA account, which is preposterous.

[clok]

Fire TV was like $80 over the weekend.  Move along.   

no XBMC on this if i am correct? then its not worth it. Just an Opinion. XBMC, when set up correctly can eliminate pretty much any service from being needed, if the gray area's don't bother you.  I Loved my Roku it was pretty much FIRE TV (with little int eh way fo games) and it rocked.. it just worked. but if you set up XMBC you can never go back to standard services again.  Every  (major) sports program live, as a UFC nut this is awesome. Seeing my non Local favorite NFL team play every week is a huge deal too to me.

[mike boss]

I've barley used my OUYA to be honest.
But I do think it is in part due to its location in the house, the quest room/office.
Today I picked up a couple of 16GB Jump Drives so I can move my remaining ROM sets over.
I HOPE this will inspire me to start messing around a lil more with the OUYA.
I have a powered USB hub and still need to test 3 PS3 USB Wireless controllers so that I can do 4 player gaming.
Despite the little (to no use really) I still will not rag on the OUYA. For the $70 I paid I think it does what it does
pretty well. In fact typing this up has inspired me to fire it up and see if any new cool Apps are available.

[knave]

I use my OUYAs more often than I use any of my other devices. Much like my other game systems I tend to watch more media than play games. It's fun to have all of XBMC and Youtube on the big TVs. Plus its real easy to switch to a quick game of retro-something...and then back to watching. Wife uses the Wii for Netflix, 10-year-old the Xbox...PS3 gathers dust.

The real sweet spot is when I'm holding my infant daughter...Youtube on the big TV is nice because I don't want to get into a longer show when going to have to get up at any moment. Any device could do this but the OUYA performs well. I never have minded controlling media with a wireless controller. I guess I'm used to it from Classic Xbox and XBMC to Xbox 360's Netflix exclusive period...

[Alistair Keith]

I just sideloaded XBMC as per this guide : http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_OUYA

Now I need to get the best add-on's !

Does that allow me to stream movies off my Mac/PC to the Ouya? I remember having something called ps3mediaserver back in the day for my PS3 but I can't seem to find one like that for my Mac to Ouya.

[knave]

I just sideloaded XBMC as per this guide : http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_OUYA

Now I need to get the best add-on's !

Does that allow me to stream movies off my Mac/PC to the Ouya? I remember having something called ps3mediaserver back in the day for my PS3 but I can't seem to find one like that for my Mac to Ouya.

Sure can. Share a folder with your media on it and point XBMC to it...and press play.

[mike boss]

Not really using the OUYA much, but kinda in the mood to fire it up.
Anything new and exciting that I should add to the OUYA ?

[knave]

I've been enjoying Shadow Blade, and there is always Twin Tiger Shark, it is one of my Favorite,s try it if you like shooters. XBMC.

I picked up Pinball Arcade: Season One Pro Pack when it was on sale...

Fire it up and check out Featured and new releases.  Its up to 963 games in the store.

"So Many Me" looks interesting but I haven't tried it yet.

[SNAAKE]

how do I go about using an usb encoder to joysticks/buttons and a usb hard drive for storage too??

is the micro usb port compatible with "OTG" cables and acts as an extra usb port?

maybe USB hubs??

[pbj]

https://www.ouya.tv/game/Genius-Greedy-Mouse/

[Generic Eric]

how do I go about using an usb encoder to joysticks/buttons and a usb hard drive for storage too??

is the micro usb port compatible with "OTG" cables and acts as an extra usb port?

maybe USB hubs??

You need a hub. 
The micro usb port is intended as a power source. 

[knave]

how do I go about using an usb encoder to joysticks/buttons and a usb hard drive for storage too??

is the micro usb port compatible with "OTG" cables and acts as an extra usb port?

maybe USB hubs??

For low draw devices you can use a non-powered hub if you like. I use one with a flash drive, Wireless keyboard, and extra controller with no problems. If your devices draw a lot of power you'll want to use a powered hub. For an encoder and a hard drive big enough to hold all your ROMs I'd recommend powered. They are not much more expensive.

And Eric, I'm pretty sure the micro-USB is to hook up to your PC for ADB and other developer/software tasks.
There may be ways to use the micro usb with breakout cables...but a hub is easier and more of a sure thing.

[Generic Eric]

how do I go about using an usb encoder to joysticks/buttons and a usb hard drive for storage too??

is the micro usb port compatible with "OTG" cables and acts as an extra usb port?

maybe USB hubs??

For low draw devices you can use a non-powered hub if you like. I use one with a flash drive, Wireless keyboard, and extra controller with no problems. If your devices draw a lot of power you'll want to use a powered hub. For an encoder and a hard drive big enough to hold all your ROMs I'd recommend powered. They are not much more expensive.

And Eric, I'm pretty sure the micro-USB is to hook up to your PC for ADB and other developer/software tasks.
There may be ways to use the micro usb with breakout cables...but a hub is easier and more of a sure thing.

My words, ate:

Here’s a list of the Dev Console package contents if you can’t watch the video right now:

Jet-black OUYA Devs package — “Thanks for believing”
Official Developer Welcome Letter (Frameable!)
One frosted translucent OUYA Dev Console
Surprise! We included a Micro-USB port, for your computer-hooking-up pleasure.
Two frosted translucent OUYA Dev Controllers
Batteries included!
HDMI cable
Micro-USB cable
Power adapter
There you have it. The OUYA Dev Console

Maybe I was thinking of the raspberry pi? ^maybe

[SNAAKE]

If it works with USB encoders and other game pads, I'm sold.

how did you do it?? can you share the configuration files?

can someone verify if usb encoders work with ouya ??

My brother and I have successfully gotten OUYAs to work with xin-mo and arduino mega 2560 boards. It took quite a bit of tinkering with KeyLayout files in order to get everything working correctly but we now have a fully functional arcade machine ran by the OUYA. Here are a couple links with a little more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2734586
http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?1667-Ouya-Arcade-Cabinet/page7

[Generic Eric]

If you can load from Google play,  try rock runners

[SNAAKE]

thought I can use rock runner to configure my controls

[mike boss]

So I fired up the OUYA after a LONG LONG period of non use.
Wanted to update it and "trick it out" a little more.
I was able to easily sideload Netflix using a tutorial I found online. 
Super stoked about that, because I needed to have Netflix in my guestroom (where the OUYA lives for now).
I also installed Kodi following this guide : http://kodi.wiki/view/OUYA

I know have three builds of XBMC on the OUYA. The official store version, Kodi, and a "night build" I think it is called.
My buddy who bought the OUYA locally got it from a seller who sells them with everything installed and ready to go.
He had sent me a tutorial to follow and I did.

One thing I noticed that I think is kinda odd.
Under my MAKE section in the OUYA one build of XBMC remains.
The tab shows as XMBC, when I open it XBMC reads in the top left.
The bottom of the screen has a ticker (for lack of a better term) that talks about KODI.

In my PLAY section I have my offical build of XBMC and I show the tab for KODI.
When I open KODI I get the screen I used to get when I would launch my night build.
XBMC + XBMC HUB, then the app opens and does show KODI in the top left, however every app, add-on I
had installed for my night build is showing up. (I hope I'm making sense)

I just find this kind of odd, perhaps certain parts of the install write to the same area ?
I guess what I'm getting at, is it seems my night build of XBMC is showing up as KODI.

Should I uninstall them all and do a fresh install.
In reality I only need one build of XBMC, I just want the best build.
Then I can work to get all the required add-on's and bells and whistles.

ANOTHER EDIT - Duhhhhh Me!
So I went and checked the versions of XBMC that I was running.
Sure enough the one with the KODI tab is indeed KODI 14.0 .
Why it went under the PLAY tab vs. the MAKE tab (when the tutorial said MAKE) I do not know.
How all prior add-ons and goodies were enabled, I also don't know.

The other is the official build, XBMC 12.4 OUYA and under the MAKE tab I have XBMC ALPHA 12.

I'm guessing I'm better to just remove the other builds ?

*** I wanna go pick up a 32GB Micro SD card for the OUYA today, I'm kinda stoked to play around with this ! ***

Picked up my 32GB Micro SD card today. I can now getting around to adding more games/ROM sets.
I think I mistook the micro USB port for a Micro SD port. Bought a card...obviously can't use it. DUH!!!!
I'll have to go thru my multiple thumb drives kicking around ,move some data around so I can use the 32 I have with the OUYA.

I also got a chance to mess around a little more with the OUYA and the KODI build. Oddly when it installed KODI every add-on I had prior used was already enabled. One thing that was super cool was XBMC HUB makes it really easy to upgrade and trick this sucker out. 15 minutes worth of tutorials on YouTube and I was set. Really everything I needed was in the XBMC menu. I know have Phoenix installed and a  few other cool lil add-on's.

I still say the $70 I spent for the OUYA, along with $25 in additional storage (I'm an idiot...why did I think this thing had Micro USB?), and lastly $25 (or so) for some other controllers still equal a cool console worth the money. I saw another neat little video on YouTube where someone was using a wired N64 controller. Not sure if I should go for the bootleg USB ones for NES + SNES to give me a better retro gaming feel.

[mike boss]

Broke the OUYA out of storage and did a lil retro gaming
the other day. Good times !
Wanted to bump an old thread and ask two questions.
I picked up a few Sony PS3 wireless USB game pads.
I picked up 3, tested 1 (the itent was to have 4 controllers
hooked up at one time...that however I did not finish
the testing for!) I did hook up one and it worked well as a
2nd player controller. Any risk using a powered hub with the OUYA?
This way I can test all 3 at the one time.
Second question, anyone ever try the XBOX 360 Mad Catz SFIV
controller with OUYA ? I picked up two and I wanted to ask before trying.

Thanks

[yotsuya]

Would the two guys here who own a Ouya hook this brother up?

[vwalbridge]

Would the two guys here who own a Ouya hook this brother up?

[yotsuya]

Would the two guys here who own a Ouya hook this brother up?

You're right, I forgot Mike was one of those guys.

[knave]

Any risk using a powered hub with the OUYA?
Second question, anyone ever try the XBOX 360 Mad Catz SFIV
controller with OUYA ?

I guess I'm the "OTHER" guy with an OUYA. LOL (I still haven't met a better XBMC/Kodi player for the money... that also emulates up to dreamcast games.)

Answer: You can use a USB hub (Powered or otherwise) to connect more controllers. (but if you have wireless controllers you don't need a hub. OUYA can connect up to 8 )
I have not myself tried the Fighting stick but Xbox 360 controllers work fine. (I have tried both usb and wireless with the PC receiver)

Try 8 player Bombsquad.
Note: you can also use Wii controllers wirelessly

[pbj]

How's the N64 emulation?

[Frank Drebin]

(I still haven't met a better XBMC/Kodi player for the money...)

Too bad anything above 14.2 is no longer supported.  Just unhooked mine this weekend.  I mean it can be  done, but its a lot of effing around. http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_CyanogenMod_on_OUYA

[knave]

Yeah that does suck...but I'm still using it and it still works...so I will cross that bridge when I can't watch my shows.

N64 works ok, it uses Mupen64Plus.
The few games I've tried worked fine (Mario 64), there are some that need a plugin or settings tweaks...and there are still a few that don't work at all. OUYA N64 Compatible game list

Now that Razer has bought OUYA they are talking about moving all the content to Forge TV under the name Cortex. We shall see but the CEO of Razer mentioned a "deep" discount for OUYA users for the Forge TV. If it ever actually happens I might go that route.

Hard to beat the Shield though. Time will tell.

[mike boss]

MANNNNNNNN....... the OUYA gets a ton-o-hate ! LOL
My controllers are the USB version, not Bluetooth...so I don't know that I could pair 8 of these.
They are the Ghost Recon USB controller.

I was under the impression that the powered USB hub was smarter/safer.

I'll give the fight stick a go on the weekend. I'll also dig out the hub and try that.
I'm looking to pick up a PS3 Bluetooth controller used on the cheap.

[nitrogen_widget]

I have 3 rock candy wireless ps3 controllers with the dongles plugged into an unpowered hub and they have worked great since i've had the OUYA.

never tried an xbox 360 controller.

almost all the games I play are now on steam.
Just waiting for bombsquad to get ported.

but I still use OUYA for xbmc and emulation plus some duck game with the kids.
Not sure about the forge.
not going to buy another android box without netflix and hulu.

[scoodidabop]

If you're still using OUYA (or android or pc for that matter) check out Rage Runner: http://store.steampowered.com/app/279520/

I'm probably biased since I contributed some original music to the game but it's actually pretty fun!