New Android Gaming Console to be release to users First Quarter 2013

[BobA]

New android gaming console brings Android to your TV
http://www.ouya.tv/

[jammin0]

I'm excited for this but mostly for their partnering with XBMC to release with them at launch.  Games are fun but a fully capable android TV box is well worth the $99 price point.

[BobA]

Didn't realize that XBMC was going to launch with it.  Sounds like a great little box to play with for $99.

[jammin0]

It will be interesting to see what some of the smaller time developers/indie game makers can do on android with a controller.  Hopefully it doesn't get pushed back like some of the crowd funded projects as of late.  I heard about it in September and would love it now. . Oh well, hopefully worth the wait.

[Generic Eric]

I kickstarted this. Looking forward to seeing what comes of it.

[Howard_Casto]

Well this is the 18th mention of this cruddy box on the forums.  Does no one search before they post?

After all these months it's still crap btw.  Android based games are terrible as a rule, there's no third party support, and 100 bucks is an awful lot to pay for a shoddily produced kickstarter device when there are actual products out there right now that can do everything they propose for the same price point.  Last time I checked you can play Angry Birds on a Roku, and that thing is YEARS old. 

[ark_ader]

Well this is the 18th mention of this cruddy box on the forums.  Does no one search before they post?

After all these months it's still crap btw.  Android based games are terrible as a rule, there's no third party support, and 100 bucks is an awful lot to pay for a shoddily produced kickstarter device when there are actual products out there right now that can do everything they propose for the same price point.  Last time I checked you can play Angry Birds on a Roku, and that thing is YEARS old.

So why don't you code something that changes that preconception?

[BobA]

Well this is the 18th mention of this cruddy box on the forums.  Does no one search before they post?

After all these months it's still crap btw.  Android based games are terrible as a rule, there's no third party support, and 100 bucks is an awful lot to pay for a shoddily produced kickstarter device when there are actual products out there right now that can do everything they propose for the same price point.  Last time I checked you can play Angry Birds on a Roku, and that thing is YEARS old.

Gee sorry to mess up your day Howard.   Just seemed like a fun unit to play with.  We have all payed alot more for what I consider junk. Maybe I should have labeled the post now shipping developers units and public now in the foreseeable future.  It is not that it was new but alot closer to a reality.  Doubt if it is the 18th mention.  A search only shows 3 or 4 for ouya.   Have a Happy New Year 

[SNAAKE]

assuming we can just any usb drive with it? for hd movies and stuff.

no optical output for surround sound? kinda makes it useless for movies. or its there but not listed on their site?

[versapak]

assuming we can just any usb drive with it? for hd movies and stuff.

no optical output for surround sound? kinda makes it useless for movies. or its there but not listed on their site?

It has hdmi, so it seems plenty useful for movies.

That being said, the last thing I need is another device that does the same bunch of media streaming that the other 5 or 6 devices hooked up to my tv already do, not to mention the TV itself has such things built in as well.

[SNAAKE]

with 5.1 surround sound? all hd movies are dolby/dts these days. unless it outputs surround sound with from hdmi port. then its all good I guess. standalone media player with xbmc for 100 sounds good. sure I can use my ps3 but it has cinevia protection and some movies wont play/convert.

[versapak]

with 5.1 surround sound? all hd movies are dolby/dts these days. unless it outputs surround sound with from hdmi port. then its all good I guess. standalone media player with xbmc for 100 sounds good. sure I can use my ps3 but it has cinevia protection and some movies wont play/convert.

Of course with 5.1 surround sound. I do believe someone is a little stuck behind the times.

HDMI has always been for surround sound and allows for far better sound quality than optical cables. Dolby TruHD and DTS HD are only going to be got over HDMI.

[Howard_Casto]

Well this is the 18th mention of this cruddy box on the forums.  Does no one search before they post?

After all these months it's still crap btw.  Android based games are terrible as a rule, there's no third party support, and 100 bucks is an awful lot to pay for a shoddily produced kickstarter device when there are actual products out there right now that can do everything they propose for the same price point.  Last time I checked you can play Angry Birds on a Roku, and that thing is YEARS old.

Gee sorry to mess up your day Howard.   Just seemed like a fun unit to play with.  We have all payed alot more for what I consider junk. Maybe I should have labeled the post now shipping developers units and public now in the foreseeable future.  It is not that it was new but alot closer to a reality.  Doubt if it is the 18th mention.  A search only shows 3 or 4 for ouya.   Have a Happy New Year 

Yup and even industry insiders who were initially excited about the product are starting to see the writing on the wall.  Check it out:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/ouya-dev-kit-update-reveals-system-unfinished-controllers-bugs-and-contradi

Basically they haven't met any of their promises, except for the ones that could potentially kill the project (easily rootable, meaning no AAA game developer support).  And the prototype is really really really rough considering how soon they expect to ship retail units.  It's looking really bad.  I mean the controller is slated to get a redesign.  It's kind of hard for devs to make games when they don't even have the final controller to use for testing. 

Your interest in the cube kind of the problem btw... everybody is interested in this "neat little device" but nobody what-so-ever is interested in actually buying any software for it.  Like most consoles, it isn't going to get very far if they can't get people to buy some software. 

I guess you guys have a much larger disposable income than I do.  I would never pay more than 50 bucks for anything that will most likely be a colossal flop and not have any support after a few months.  And that's if it ever makes it past the dev kit stage.  I just don't want to see people that aren't very informed throw their money away. 

[SNAAKE]

hdmi from my computer is 2channel stereo. thats why i asked..

[northerngames]

Well this is the 18th mention of this cruddy box on the forums.  Does no one search before they post?

After all these months it's still crap btw.  Android based games are terrible as a rule, there's no third party support, and 100 bucks is an awful lot to pay for a shoddily produced kickstarter device when there are actual products out there right now that can do everything they propose for the same price point.  Last time I checked you can play Angry Birds on a Roku, and that thing is YEARS old.

Gee sorry to mess up your day Howard.   Just seemed like a fun unit to play with.  We have all payed alot more for what I consider junk. Maybe I should have labeled the post now shipping developers units and public now in the foreseeable future.  It is not that it was new but alot closer to a reality.  Doubt if it is the 18th mention.  A search only shows 3 or 4 for ouya.   Have a Happy New Year 

Yup and even industry insiders who were initially excited about the product are starting to see the writing on the wall.  Check it out:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/ouya-dev-kit-update-reveals-system-unfinished-controllers-bugs-and-contradi

Basically they haven't met any of their promises, except for the ones that could potentially kill the project (easily rootable, meaning no AAA game developer support).  And the prototype is really really really rough considering how soon they expect to ship retail units.  It's looking really bad.  I mean the controller is slated to get a redesign.  It's kind of hard for devs to make games when they don't even have the final controller to use for testing. 

Your interest in the cube kind of the problem btw... everybody is interested in this "neat little device" but nobody what-so-ever is interested in actually buying any software for it.  Like most consoles, it isn't going to get very far if they can't get people to buy some software. 

I guess you guys have a much larger disposable income than I do.  I would never pay more than 50 bucks for anything that will most likely be a colossal flop and not have any support after a few months.  And that's if it ever makes it past the dev kit stage.  I just don't want to see people that aren't very informed throw their money away.

thats kinda the idea and for people that cant go out and buy a $50 game every 2 weeks.

heck some people spend that amount on a single game that turns out to be a colossal flop even on the high end systems.

I have owned all prior systems so why not one more lol

[versapak]

hdmi from my computer is 2channel stereo. thats why i asked..

I see.

I've never hooked my laptop via its HDMI, but I would have though that it would have had the same 5.1 or more channel ability of the HDMI on all my other stuff.

Did you hook the HDMI directly to the av receiver, or through the TV first? One thing that I have noticed is that most tvs do not take 5.1 from HDMI and transfer it via their optical. If you don't have a receiver that can handle HDMI, then it very well could be that you would be limited to 2 channel regardless of the device.

[knave]

I backed this little device early and posted about it here. I am really excited to se it made. I looked around for an android powered something to plug into my TV and the ouya is an interesting and fun option. I spent less on the ouya than I did my first cabinet. It's a success if I get the box and it plays movies, music and games. I want to install other android apps on it and see what I can get it to do. HBO netflix, pandora, all possible. I have a roku and it is great but it's not the same. Being able to install apps is what I want.

But really I just wanted it to exist.

Howard, I see your point about the software, if the only goal was to make money on software then that could be a problem. But I think like many backers; we want the device to be made. From there, 3rd party, homebrew, or ouya apps can come from anywhere. not to mention the existing android apps.

I am hoping this device does all the things that I’ve wanted to do with all my other consoles hacked or stock. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be happy with it. Hopefully more happy than I am with my PS3.

Even if no android anything works...Worst case, I have a device that can stream XBMC and play a few games...still cool.

[SithMaster]

Competition seems better.

[versapak]

Competition seems better.

How does that seem better?

It is a weaker system. The only thing it has going for it is portability, and I'd rather have one of these with my more powerful phone for portability.

[knave]

The gamestick looks pretty interesting. I like the stick form factor of devices that plug into a TV's HDMI port.

When I found the Ouya I was actually looking at some of the TV in a stick solutions but the Ouya did all that they did plus played games and had bult in XBMC support.

The ouya won't be for everyone but I am hopefull that it will fill a device nitch that currently spans multiple devices. Who knows if I can get MAME working on there it can do pretty much anything I need. If not it can sit next to my PS3 and collect dust.

[SNAAKE]

there is mame and finalburn for android

I am assuming those will just work on this as is. I play arcade games on my sony xperia play android phone almost everyday(*cough* at work..sometimes)

[ChadTower]

with 5.1 surround sound? all hd movies are dolby/dts these days. unless it outputs surround sound with from hdmi port. then its all good I guess. standalone media player with xbmc for 100 sounds good. sure I can use my ps3 but it has cinevia protection and some movies wont play/convert.

Of course with 5.1 surround sound. I do believe someone is a little stuck behind the times.

HDMI has always been for surround sound and allows for far better sound quality than optical cables. Dolby TruHD and DTS HD are only going to be got over HDMI.

Not all TVs work that well with HDMI audio.  The WEGAs, for example, have always been notorious for software layer HDMI problems. 

[SithMaster]

Competition seems better.

How does that seem better?

It is a weaker system. The only thing it has going for it is portability, and I'd rather have one of these with my more powerful phone for portability.

The face buttons spell play.  I noticed the gamestick can be used as a controller with any bluetooth device whereas I can't find any info on whether the ouya controller can be used in a similar fashion.

There is another product that seems interesting made by Greenthrottle that uses a tv adapter and a wireless controller with your existing phone to play games on a tv.  The benefit is upgrading your phone upgrades the system (in the crazy event your current phone doesn't support a game).

[clok]

Well .... early devices had poor controls (well known before Penny Arcade mentioned if you are  DEV and in the forums).. better controls have already circulated and will be included with release.. common for pre release hardware to not exactly match finished hardware, very common in today's rushed markets for a design to be done less then a month from launch.. I'm not saying the gamepad will be better, its always a possibility it wont. But its well know the current control was a quicky to go out with dev kits.. was a question of .. wait so devs had less time to make the games, or go with non finished controls.. personally i think they took the best route.. no games at launch is not a good thing.  The gamestick from my reading ( again, i may be wrong) is not sporting the same CPU and will in fact be a slower machine, at a cheaper price. I am also not sure if its open like the OYUA. I ahve seen and touched the dev console.. its not the final product and day 1 when it came out there was almost ZERO stuff on it.. so its like a TV with no stations.. not very impressive.. Currently there is more.. (youtube has several videos of games).. thre is lots of talks on the dev forums of quick and dirty ports.. not great.. but most any game you can play on a phone that has a big enough following will have a port .. its takes a dev a day or two to map controls so it works ..the better Devs are enhancing gameplay and screens to work with the new format.

is it going to work? not sure myself.. I dont play phone game as the screen size blows.. but blowing um up to screen size? not sure if thats worth it or not.. the buying on 2 platforms? will anybody do that? The numbers are encouraging (dev kits, and amazon numbers) so there should be some support. Much like any console a few GOOD games are needed.. 1 great game couldnt hurt. Will there be any? again.. from my looking.. a great big "maybe"  I havent seen much that make me go WOW.. there is a fairly good zombie shooter (but with a million of those, ....) but its pretty plain.. good looking but nothing "new" about it..

very big if, but for $100.. its cheaper then  2 console games.. If EA has its way.. 1 game soon.
.

[Howard_Casto]

very big if, but for $100.. its cheaper then  2 console games.. .

Well yes, but you are looking at it the wrong way.  It costs 1/3 of a real game console and more than half of a portable.  Can you honestly say that you are getting your money's worth for that relatively expensive a price?

[ark_ader]

Well if you look at those Pen Computers the MK802 in particular, can be plugged into your TV (I don't know if it draws power from the HDMI) and get basically the same thing for $40 less. 

Yes I know you don't get a controller with the MK802 but I can pickup a wiimote for less than £9 used, and it works great with Android.

I think it is great that we have innovation.  We just need to innovate on the areas that we are lacking like decent controllers and software content.

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah like I've said with various other threads about these devices that everybody is wrongly excited about, if you are buying it for streaming media and such nonsense, you are wasting your money.  The rouku, this little guy, any modern bluray player... hell any modern television, they all have streaming capability and they cost much less. 

The problem with android in particular is that it is decidedly NOT a gaming platform. It supports flash and thus there are a ton of cruddy flash games for the OS, but if we are talking real, actual games with 3d graphics and textures and ect, the games are few and far between.  Even then the games that are available are usually woefully outdated.  There are reasons for that.  There really isn't a standardized hardware-accelerated platform (like open gl or directX ect) and there isn't even a standardized input device method on the android. 

In terms of "hid style" inputs devices you've got the keyboard, the mouse, and that's it.  So any joystick on android needs a resident program to read the device and/or a game with custom coding to detect that particular device.  That's crap we haven't had to deal with since the days where pc games ran in dos. 

Also graphics and raw horse power certainly aren't everything, but they are something.  The reason this device will probably fail, much like the Neo-Geo X  (which I predicted would fail and it's out of production only a couple of months after release) is that they are offering a product with 1/8th the capability of a modern console for only 1/2 the price.  If you can't get that price point down to "plug-n-play tv games" level for your disposable novelty device, nobody will buy your disposable novelty device. 

[clok]

Well i think the big pull is .. console sales are stagnant and actually growing smaller. Handheld (dedicated) consoles are also growing smaller. Phone/tablet gaming is growing. Good or bad, consoles and dedicated handhelds are no longer the future, but are slipping into the past. Personally  the small screens and touch screens suck for 90% of the game I like so I'm not happy. But that is besides the point, it "appears" (times do change fast, maybe wrong) the market is heading to the phones/tablets.. that area is dominated by Android and IOs ( i have developed for both and prefer Android , just my opinion, i have not developed games, just apps) SO if the market is heading that way.. again, certainly an "IF" but it does seem its the growing market you have two choices.. If you live in the USA.. IOs rules.. but worldwide Android is winning and growing at a faster pace then IOs. So in the end.. much like to many things, better or best doesn't win.. but he who sells the most and markets the best does.. Right now (hardware) Andorid is winning.. software the Bucks are still in IOs .. seems us americans buy more then anybody else.. and Apple still has its 48 % to androids 47% (PC WORLD)  of course if you go by Kantar Worldpanel Android is 53% to 34% for apple... either way.. android which has been out several years less has caught and passed IOs Worldwide and appears to be heading the way in the USA..

whats all that mean.. tons of games already done and available to port.. I could give a rats bum about angry birds.. but people buy that stuff by the tons... putting it on a TV so you can show off (human nature) seems like a good fit..

where the OYUA seems to have an edge is all (every one) has to have a free part.. (US pc users call that a a DEMO!!!!    ) and as F2P MMORPG games show.. hook um for free and they will spend to be "better" then other players..

I really do agree i see no use for the android consoles, its on a phone why buy it on a tv too.. but then again I dont buy phone games. Dont need my battery out when i need to make a call cuz i spent and hour in some game on it..  But as a STEAM user.. several games ported from phones to that are quite fun.. and I have got them.. so maybe there is some life fro that type of console..

I own one as a dev.. but do not see myself buying any games for it.. cept maybe a zombie shooter  that looks good and a couple other games i have seen that will not be on PHONES (for awhile at least).

i think where we go wrong looking at these products is looking at them from our view.. MEH.. but a quick look at revenue from succesfull phone games show people buy that stuff..will it translate to the TV? I think it can.. will it? again? humans are fickle lot.. we loved the Wii and bought a bunch till the gee whiz factor wore off and the gameplay had to shine ( and didnt).. can buy a Wii for the same price as the OYUA almost.. its new.. its small, its fairly cheap.. its got a tiny bit of buzz.. some TV spots when its actually released.. who knows.. maybe just maybe..

[northerngames]

very big if, but for $100.. its cheaper then  2 console games.. .

Well yes, but you are looking at it the wrong way.  It costs 1/3 of a real game console and more than half of a portable.  Can you honestly say that you are getting your money's worth for that relatively expensive a price?

without a doubt and by your post I am starting to think your the only one looking at it the wrong way where everyone else already gets the big picture with this "option" 

anyone ever played abobosbigadventure_PC

it's a flash game and probably one of the best if not the best nes game I have played.

sure it is a clone custom game or whatever but try it out and picture it being around when nes was in its prime and tell me that would not be the game wanted under all kids tree.

25 years later or more something like that was totally awesome and fun for me and brang back many memories and smiles.

now if they made 2 more of them I would be happy for that $99.99 alone so this way I got my money's worth out of two measly "nes like" games not including the other tens of thousands.

I mean did we not pay that back in the day for two carts at 50 when 50 then is like 80 now.

2 games for the same price or thousands for $99.99???

well that is just 2 games howard and how many andriod games and aps are that are out there for free again,

I cant get that on my gba a wii-U genesis snes etc.

I also cannot hook to internet with my old handhelds that have games this console will have for free

I am not going to lug around my 32" lcd and pc case as opposed to something that almost fit in a pocket.

sure there is other means to play that game for instance but my pc I played it on was a tid bit more then $99.99 actually I have that in the psu alone but that dont play anything at all for $100.00 so for people that dont have the money for a pc or a 600 ps4 they can still enjoy millions of games for free after paying $99.99.

look what a nes does and why do people pay 50+ for them when they play what and a new $99.99 ouya does how many million more.

I could give a million examples why but if you dont get it you dont get it I guess 

I got plans for mine already 

[Howard_Casto]

very big if, but for $100.. its cheaper then  2 console games.. .

Well yes, but you are looking at it the wrong way.  It costs 1/3 of a real game console and more than half of a portable.  Can you honestly say that you are getting your money's worth for that relatively expensive a price?

without a doubt and by your post I am starting to think your the only one looking at it the wrong way where everyone else already gets the big picture with this "option" 

anyone ever played abobosbigadventure_PC

it's a flash game and probably one of the best if not the best nes game I have played.

sure it is a clone custom game or whatever but try it out and picture it being around when nes was in its prime and tell me that would not be the game wanted under all kids tree.

25 years later or more something like that was totally awesome and fun for me and brang back many memories and smiles.

now if they made 2 more of them I would be happy for that $99.99 alone so this way I got my money's worth out of two nes games.

did we not pay that back in the day wich 50 then is like 80 now.

well that is just 2 games howard and how many andriod games and aps are that are out there for free again,

I cant get that on my gba a wii-U genesis snes etc.

I got plans for mine already 

Abobo's big adventure is free.  It plays from a webpage, is downloadable for the pc and mac and will run on most tablets.  So you are willing to pay 100 bucks to play a game that will run on virtually anything for free?  Also it isn't an android game.  It will play on most tablets via the web browser, so it isn't an android game.  And you picked the one good flash game out of hundreds of thousands that aren't even worth loading up. 

If you want to make a point, you better make a valid one, because my point that it's a waste of money because the games are available on much cheaper, more useful devices, and 90% of the games are so terrible it doesn't matter still stands. 

And consoles are dying.  LOL  It's the single largest form of entertainment.  It makes more money than tv and film combined.  Physical console sales are falling because a new generation of consoles is about to be released... duh.

[knave]

It surprises me how negative some of you are about a new technological toy that we are excited about. I don't think the Ouya is going to be a PS3 or Xbox replacement...but isn't it enough that I think it is cool. I want to play with it, load some stuff, and goof around for a few hours.

Sure it costs $99 (I paid $140 for a fancy color, Woohoo!) but I also paid $120 for my first dedicated cab (Carrier Airwing) and I can play that for free on my PC. I bought it because I thought it was cool... Now it mostly sits in my garage but it is still really cool and I got my $ worth. Are there more efficient and less costly ways to entertain oneself? Sure...we all can go to the library to read for free

So lay off the Ouya a bit...I respect your opinion that it will not be a great and/or worthwhile console. I don't mind at all...when mine comes at the end of the month I'm going to have a blast playing with it even if it you think it sux. Shoot I played pac-man on my Jakks for a long time...and I can play that for free on my PC too...and on my Xbox...you get my point.

The Ouya is kinda a swiss army knife of tech devices...It can do lots of stuff but it's not going to be the best at any of them. But it is still cool!

Thanks for listening. 

[jammin0]

It surprises me how negative some of you are about a new technological toy that we are excited about. I don't think the Ouya is going to be a PS3 or Xbox replacement...but isn't it enough that I think it is cool. I want to play with it, load some stuff, and goof around for a few hours.

Sure it costs $99 (I paid $140 for a fancy color, Woohoo!) but I also paid $120 for my first dedicated cab (Carrier Airwing) and I can play that for free on my PC. I bought it because I thought it was cool... Now it mostly sits in my garage but it is still really cool and I got my $ worth. Are there more efficient and less costly ways to entertain oneself? Sure...we all can go to the library to read for free

So lay off the Ouya a bit...I respect your opinion that it will not be a great and/or worthwhile console. I don't mind at all...when mine comes at the end of the month I'm going to have a blast playing with it even if it you think it sux. Shoot I played pac-man on my Jakks for a long time...and I can play that for free on my PC too...and on my Xbox...you get my point.

The Ouya is kinda a swiss army knife of tech devices...It can do lots of stuff but it's not going to be the best at any of them. But it is still cool!

Thanks for listening. 

I totally agree with you.  I just paid $60 + $7 for a mouse for an android stick computer that I have attached to the back of my TV.  Automatically powers on with the TV and it has XBMC running on it to stream stuff from my other computers or else I can stream any popular show/movie and even a lot of obscure ones from the internet using XBMC plugins.  My son plays games on it with the mouse almost as much as he plays the xbox360.  I paid extra for the Kinect when I think it is kind of a stupid gimick and can't stand playing it with little kids since they constantly run around and screw with the tracking.

Ouya was built open source for hacking, XBMC has made tons of progress, I believe a ton of that had to do with the announcement of Ouya supporting it.  I can browse email and run android apps on my TV with my current setup but some things that Ouya will improve on:  better hardware acceleration with XBMC support, better WIFI support, my current chinese device is pretty weak and I'm sure that Ouya will improve on it, actual controller for games, etc.  I haven't preordered yet because I like to get something immediately when I buy it but I am sold on Ouya.

Do you know how many people still have modded Xbox 1s laying around because the media center capability is still better than a lot of the closed stuff going on in current gen systems?

[lordnacho]

Yeah like I've said with various other threads about these devices that everybody is wrongly excited about, if you are buying it for streaming media and such nonsense, you are wasting your money.  The rouku, this little guy, any modern bluray player... hell any modern television, they all have streaming capability and they cost much less. 

Disagree.  And what was the nonsense part of this?  Maybe you don't enjoy a media center interface like others(including me).  I'd happily buy something small like this if it did xbmc well.  My old pc turned htpc is clunky at times running xbmc and my raspberry pi couldn't handle all of the 1080p rips I had, so it immediately got booted as an option.  My tv is older and doesn't have streaming, last roku I used(granted awhile ago) didn't care for the interface, same as my ps3.  I'm pretty picky about this, xbmc is the only UI I like, even plex doesn't cut it for me. 

[northerngames]

howard: So you are willing to pay 100 bucks to play a game that will run on virtually anything for free?

NG: And your virtually anything is free or did it cost more then $99.99?

sure the game or games is free in either case but that's not what is in question.

last I knew you needed something physical to play any free or paid game on unless your stuck in virtual reality somewhere.

like I already stated I played it on a pc for free sure your right but that pc I played it on was not $99.99 or virtually free.

 in case it was missed I am also not going to lug it around with my 32" lcd as I explained prior.

are you going to let your 8yr old kid take a 600 dollar tablet on a bike ride to thier friends house for instance/fact?

another fun fact you never considered ? what if mc d's jump's on this with 10 per store with angry birds or similair resturants and becomes a new fast food fad?

maybe you already have all these fancy gidget gadgets but what about the one's that dont or cant afford them or dont have credit for a 2 year contract at $49.99 per month etc. ?

I mean with that said I assume your still lost in this subject and dont see the  big picture 

[ark_ader]

I used to like buying the latest gadgets but now I prefer to wait and buy THE gadget that does pretty much what I want it to do. 

I cannot get excited with the Ouya, as I have 3 tablets (that I actually do proper work on) have a similar specification.  What will get me interested is the sales of the Ouya.  It will mean that there will be a better catalogue of games available for android devices.

I fall into the category of having pretty much every console (that is worth having) which will make my above comment biased.  I also fall into the camp of independent innovation. 

So if this console takes off, there will more benefits than a simple media centre, or an game emulator.  We will see new and exciting games that will embrace the power that android devices have currently.

A little win win is a good trade off whatever your position is on the subject .