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Lomaxx:

In addition here are those I found with "lrmc", which offer no new resolutions to the above, but differ very slightly in the refreshrate:


--- Code: ---    Modeline "1296x288x50.08"  24.875000  1296 1328 1448 1592  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1288x288x50.08"  24.750000  1288 1328 1448 1584  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1280x288x50.08"  24.625000  1280 1320 1432 1576  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1272x288x50.08"  24.500000  1272 1312 1424 1568  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1264x288x50.08"  24.250000  1264 1296 1408 1552  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1256x288x50.08"  24.125000  1256 1288 1400 1544  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1248x288x50.08"  24.000000  1248 1288 1400 1536  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1240x288x50.08"  23.875000  1240 1280 1392 1528  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1232x288x50.08"  23.750000  1232 1272 1384 1520  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1224x288x50.08"  23.500000  1224 1256 1368 1504  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1216x288x50.08"  23.375000  1216 1248 1360 1496  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1208x288x50.08"  23.250000  1208 1240 1352 1488  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1200x288x50.08"  23.125000  1200 1240 1352 1480  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1192x288x50.08"  22.875000  1192 1224 1328 1464  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1184x288x50.08"  22.750000  1184 1216 1320 1456  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1176x288x50.08"  22.625000  1176 1208 1312 1448  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1168x288x50.08"  22.500000  1168 1200 1304 1440  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1160x288x50.08"  22.250000  1160 1192 1296 1424  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1152x288x50.08"  22.125000  1152 1184 1288 1416  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1144x288x50.08"  22.000000  1144 1176 1280 1408  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1136x288x50.08"  21.875000  1136 1168 1272 1400  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1128x288x50.08"  21.750000  1128 1160 1264 1392  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1120x288x50.08"  21.500000  1120 1152 1256 1376  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1112x288x50.08"  21.375000  1112 1144 1248 1368  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1104x288x50.08"  21.250000  1104 1136 1232 1360  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1096x288x50.08"  21.125000  1096 1128 1224 1352  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1088x288x50.08"  20.875000  1088 1120 1216 1336  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1080x288x50.08"  20.750000  1080 1112 1208 1328  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1072x288x50.08"  20.625000  1072 1104 1200 1320  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1064x288x50.08"  20.500000  1064 1096 1192 1312  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1056x288x50.08"  20.250000  1056 1080 1176 1296  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1048x288x50.08"  20.125000  1048 1080 1176 1288  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1040x288x50.08"  20.000000  1040 1072 1168 1280  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1032x288x50.08"  19.875000  1032 1064 1160 1272  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1024x288x50.08"  19.750000  1024 1056 1152 1264  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1016x288x50.08"  19.500000  1016 1040 1128 1248  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1008x288x50.08"  19.375000  1008 1040 1128 1240  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "1000x288x50.08"  19.250000  1000 1032 1120 1232  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "992x288x50.08"  19.125000  992 1024 1112 1224  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "984x288x50.08"  18.875000  984 1008 1096 1208  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "976x288x50.08"  18.750000  976 1000 1088 1200  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "968x288x50.08"  18.625000  968 1000 1088 1192  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "960x288x50.08"  18.500000  960 992 1080 1184  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "952x288x50.08"  18.250000  952 976 1064 1168  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "944x288x50.08"  18.125000  944 968 1056 1160  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "936x288x50.08"  18.000000  936 960 1048 1152  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "928x288x50.08"  17.875000  928 960 1048 1144  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "920x288x50.08"  17.750000  920 952 1032 1136  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "912x288x50.08"  17.500000  912 936 1016 1120  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "904x288x50.08"  17.375000  904 928 1008 1112  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "896x288x50.08"  17.250000  896 920 1000 1104  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "888x288x50.08"  17.125000  888 920 1000 1096  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "880x288x50.08"  16.875000  880 904 984 1080  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "872x288x50.08"  16.750000  872 896 976 1072  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "864x288x50.08"  16.625000  864 888 968 1064  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "856x288x50.08"  16.500000  856 880 960 1056  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "848x288x50.08"  16.250000  848 872 952 1040  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "840x288x50.08"  16.125000  840 864 936 1032  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "832x288x50.08"  16.000000  832 856 928 1024  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "824x288x50.08"  15.875000  824 848 920 1016  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "816x288x50.08"  15.750000  816 840 912 1008  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "808x288x50.08"  15.500000  808 832 904 992  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "800x288x50.08"  15.375000  800 824 896 984  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "792x288x50.08"  15.250000  792 816 888 976  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "784x288x50.08"  15.125000  784 808 880 968  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "776x288x50.08"  14.875000  776 792 864 952  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "768x288x50.08"  14.750000  768 792 864 944  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "760x288x50.08"  14.625000  760 784 856 936  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "752x288x50.08"  14.500000  752 776 848 928  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "744x288x50.08"  14.250000  744 760 824 912  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "736x288x50.08"  14.125000  736 752 816 904  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "728x288x50.08"  14.000000  728 752 816 896  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "720x288x50.08"  13.875000  720 744 808 888  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "712x288x50.08"  13.750000  712 736 800 880  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "704x288x50.08"  13.500000  704 720 784 864  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "696x288x50.08"  13.375000  696 712 776 856  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "688x288x50.08"  13.250000  688 712 776 848  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "680x288x50.08"  13.125000  680 704 768 840  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "672x288x50.08"  12.875000  672 688 752 824  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "664x288x50.08"  12.750000  664 680 736 816  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "656x288x50.08"  12.625000  656 672 728 808  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "648x288x50.08"  12.500000  648 672 728 800  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "640x288x50.08"  12.250000  640 656 712 784  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "632x288x50.08"  12.125000  632 648 704 776  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "624x288x50.08"  12.000000  624 640 696 768  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "616x288x50.08"  11.875000  616 632 688 760  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "608x288x50.08"  11.750000  608 632 688 752  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "600x288x50.08"  11.500000  600 616 672 736  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "592x288x50.08"  11.375000  592 608 664 728  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "584x288x50.08"  11.250000  584 600 656 720  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "576x288x50.08"  11.125000  576 592 648 712  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "568x288x50.08"  10.875000  568 584 632 696  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "560x288x50.08"  10.750000  560 576 624 688  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "552x288x50.08"  10.625000  552 568 616 680  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "544x288x50.08"  10.500000  544 560 608 672  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "536x288x50.08"  10.250000  536 552 600 656  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "528x288x50.08"  10.125000  528 544 592 648  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "520x288x50.08"  10.000000  520 536 584 640  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "512x288x50.08"  9.875000  512 528 576 632  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "504x288x50.08"  9.750000  504 520 568 624  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "496x288x50.08"  9.500000  496 512 560 608  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "488x288x50.08"  9.375000  488 504 552 600  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "480x288x50.08"  9.250000  480 496 536 592  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "472x288x50.08"  9.125000  472 488 528 584  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "464x288x50.08"  8.875000  464 472 512 568  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "456x288x50.08"  8.750000  456 472 512 560  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "448x288x50.08"  8.625000  448 464 504 552  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "440x288x50.08"  8.500000  440 456 496 544  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "432x288x50.08"  8.250000  432 440 480 528  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "424x288x50.08"  8.125000  424 432 472 520  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "416x288x50.08"  8.000000  416 432 472 512  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync
    Modeline "408x288x50.08"  7.875000  408 424 464 504  288 293 296 312  -HSync -VSync

--- End code ---

I was hoping to find more varation for the vertical resolution than  just 576,288,280 and 272, but it seems that there are none. Unless someone tells me the opposite and that there should be more, I will stop testing for now.

Lomaxx:
A little update about the resolutions with a height of 280 and 272 (to be found in the long list of modeline two posts above):

 I noticed that my TV simply leaves out the last 8 (when using 280) or 16 lines (272) compared to the normal 288 lines. So in the end you simple are left with some black space at the bottom. You can NOT use that somehow for a little vertical scaling of the picture like I was hoping.
 So most of you can leave these modes out as well. I only found a 272-mode useful once when using some pseudo-fullscreen-work-around for the vice-emulator in order to hide the statusbar at the bottom of the vice-window.

 In addition 280- and 272-modes confuse my TV in such a way that the OSD-menu does not show up anymore when using them.

I guess I was trying to bend the laws of CRT-TV-physics, which can't work.  ;)

Paradroid:
Hmm...

If I were in your part of the world, I'd be grabbing a Grundig/Blaupunkt/Siemens with a CUC 5xxx or 6xxx series chassis. From what I understand, they're reasonably to easy to come by in Germany. After searching high and low in Australia, I now have a few of these and (using an ATI under Windows XP) the compatibility and picture quality is very good. These TVs have analogue controls (quick to adjust overscan) and have beautiful arcade-like pictures with no digital artifacts. I recently acquired a Grundig CUC 6330 chassis and the picture is possibly the best I've seen (analogue chassis and black matrix tube). Much better than the average arcade monitor IMHO.

Anyway, it's just a thought. You seem pretty keen to get on top of all this and in my experience having the right SCART TV to start with makes the task a whole lot easier. :)

Lomaxx:
Ah, well ... at the moment I'm just using the old, unused TV left in the household. Right now I'm not heading for the best equipment, but for getting the most out of the hardware I got. Still i appreciate your info. Maybe someday there will be an opportunity to get one of these chassis. Sounds interesting.
 So far I am already please with the picture I got - as long as I can stick to progressive modes. I got scanlines. I got nice colours. I got a big screen. I even don't care that much about some black borders as long as i can get the correct 4:3-ratio done.

Calamity:

--- Quote ---I guess I was trying to bend the laws of CRT-TV-physics, which can't work.  Wink
--- End quote ---

Not really, CRT-TVs are generally way more flexible than what your model seems to be. Was it a Nokia? That behaviour doesn't respond to the modeline math logic but probably to some over-simplified processing chip built in that chasis. The problem is that being forced to use 288-lines (or whatever above 256) you can't get any of the 60 Hz modes which are required for emulation. I agree Paradroid, if you ever test this on a more flexible TV you'll know what we mean.

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