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rCadeGaming:

--- Quote from: opt2not on April 03, 2012, 07:37:32 pm ---Incorrect.  They actually have the same engage and throw distance, see kowal's spec pages (translated from polish):

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That's strange, on the comparison chart on Slagcoin.com the LS-40 is the only one with the engage distance listed as small, while LS-56 is listed as medium.  I'll give it to you that kowal's specs do seem more precise.  Isn't it true that the LS-56-01's PCB mounted microswitches are further from the pivot point, creating a smaller engage distance?  I've heard this before but noticed that neither of these sites document a difference.


--- Quote from: opt2not on April 03, 2012, 07:37:32 pm ---I really don't want to get into yet another "which joystick is better" argument. Ultimately it's your choice to what stick you prefer. I'm just trying to give accurate details based on facts.

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Agreed.  I'm not the expert on differences between the different Seimitsus, as I've only owned a few.  That's why I'm asking questions.  Sorry for jumping to a conclusion earlier.

Is it not a fact though that JLF's have a smoother pivot?

I know it's a fact that unlevered microswitches are more reliable and consistent.  The levers can't be bent to different degrees, causing the engage points to change.  When you have four microswitches with engage points that have shift differently, things really get messy.  I've gotten a brand new Seimitsu where some directions had closer engage points than others, I measured this personally.  You can bend them back, but it's a mess and who knows how long they will stay like that.

Franco B:
LS-56-01s are my new weapon of choice  8)

The engage distance is nice and tight but the post actuation throw is awful, even with the octo-restrictors.

I am however making some new tighter restrictors to remedy this  ;)

opt2not:

--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on April 03, 2012, 08:08:34 pm ---Is it not a fact though that JLF's have a smoother pivot?

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What do you mean by "smoother pivot"?  Are you talking about how it feels from going from one direction to another, aka SRK motions?  'Cause if you are, then that makes sense based on their large throw. Or perhaps you're thinking about how well lubed your sticks are...
The large throw is why JLF's are good for fighters, SRK movements, not so much for the small precision movements needed for shmups (but of course, to each's own).


--- Quote ---I know it's a fact that unlevered microswitches are more reliable and consistent.  The levers can't be bent to different degrees, causing the engage points to change.  When you have four microswitches with engage points that have shift differently, things really get messy.  I've gotten a brand new Seimitsu where some directions had closer engage points than others, I measured this personally.  You can bend them back, but it's a mess and who knows how long they will stay like that.

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Now that's an interesting statement, that I'm calling shenanigans on.
For one, I want to know what you're doing to your sticks for the levers to bend. Have you actually tried bending them? It takes a lot of force to bend the seimitsu switch levers, and I have never seen these levers bending out of regular usage.
Secondly, if you received a stick that has uneven engage points, you'd be best to return it. Sounds to me like you got a dud.



--- Quote from: Franco B on April 04, 2012, 03:29:25 am ---LS-56-01s are my new weapon of choice  8)

The engage distance is nice and tight but the post actuation throw is awful, even with the octo-restrictors.

I am however making some new tighter restrictors to remedy this  ;)

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Finally someone who knows what they're talking about.
Need any testers Franco?  :)
I missed out on your LS-32 Supa-tight actuators :(

HaRuMaN:

--- Quote from: opt2not on April 04, 2012, 02:46:23 pm ---perhaps you're thinking about how well lubed your sticks are...

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opt2not:
 :-[    :lol

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