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Vectorfire:

--- Quote ---VMMaker 1.2b is obsolete. Please use the new CRT Tools 2.0, which are synchronized with GroovyMAME and are much easier to use.
--- End quote ---

Im confused, the instructions I used just yesterday state to use VMMaker. No mention any CRT tools?

http://geedorah.com/eiusdemmodi/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=1016#p1016

Are those instructions no longer valid? more importantly, has using them already going to screw me in any way?

Calamity:

--- Quote from: Vectorfire on February 10, 2020, 09:30:42 am ---
--- Quote ---VMMaker 1.2b is obsolete. Please use the new CRT Tools 2.0, which are synchronized with GroovyMAME and are much easier to use.
--- End quote ---

Im confused, the instructions I used just yesterday state to use VMMaker. No mention any CRT tools?

--- End quote ---

1.2b is obsolete. 2.0 (VMMaker & CRT Emudriver) is fine.

Nevohteeb:
Hello everyone,

I am trying to create several modelines to use my Raspberry Pi 4 under Retropie in my arcade cab, and I found this post a few weeks ago.
I used switchres to generate the modelines, and it appeared some work (green ones) whereas some don't (red ones):

ModeLine 320x240x60.00    6.63984   320   336   368   424   240   242   245   261
Modeline   384x224x59.63   7.904513   384   400   440   504   224   235   238   263
Modeline   448x224x59.17   9.408014   448   472   520   600   224   236   239   265
Modeline   448x224x60.00   9.396   448   472   520   600   224   234   237   261
Modeline   384x224x60.00   7.89264   384   400   440   504   224   234   237   261
Modeline   320x224x59.19   6.650094   320   336   368   424   224   236   239   265
Modeline   320x224x60.00   6.63984   320   336   368   424   224   234   237   261

I read deeper inside the code to find some explanations, and I found the values mentioned in the first post:


--- Quote from: Calamity on November 21, 2011, 12:18:51 pm ---   
   // Hantarex MTC 9110, Hantarex Polo
   h9110, polo
   
      crt_range0  15625-16670, 49.5-65, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.160, 1.056, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      

--- End quote ---

Nevertheless, I can see in the Hantarex MTC 9110 service manual those values:

* Horizontal range: 15.625 kHz +/- 0.5 kHz. Then, the range should be 15.125 kHz to 16.125 kHz
* Vertical range: 45-65 hz
* Horizontal blanking: 12 us
* Vertical blanking: 1 ms
We can see that:

* 2.000 + 4.750 + 8.000 = 14.750 us (not 12 us?)
* 0.064 + 0.160 + 1.056 = 1.28 ms (not 1 ms?)
Would someone have an explanation about those numbers? How were they determined?

Calamity:
Hi Nevohteeb,

Those numbers were determined by direct experimentation on my own Hantarex. I found that 12 us wasn't enough for horizontal blanking (it caused a black shadow on the left side of the screen). 1 ms wasn't enough either, it would cause line distortion on top of the screen. I found the values provided were safe in all cases.

With regards to the horizontal range, iirc the manual says 15.625 kHz +/- 0.5 kHz adjustable. Adjustable means that you have a window of 1 kHz width (-0.5, 0.5) kHz that you can adjust up or down by means of the hfreq potentiometer. In my experience, the most useful adjustment is the one that covers 15.6-16.6 KHz. This allows 256p@60 Hz, for vertical games like 1942, that many other arcade monitors and TVs don't support.

Nevohteeb:

--- Quote from: Calamity on August 03, 2020, 02:29:00 pm ---Those numbers were determined by direct experimentation on my own Hantarex. I found that 12 us wasn't enough for horizontal blanking (it caused a black shadow on the left side of the screen). 1 ms wasn't enough either, it would cause line distortion on top of the screen. I found the values provided were safe in all cases.

--- End quote ---

Hi Calamity,

well, thanks for those informations. Very useful for me.

I'll now try to figure out why I can't get any 384x224 resolution working. 

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