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Author Topic: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors  (Read 5440 times)

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Dragonman73

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Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« on: February 09, 2011, 01:55:24 pm »
I'm still on the fence about about which monitor to use, I stated in another thread that i have a 27" tv, 19" 4:3 LCD PC monitor, and a 21" CRT PC monitor

This stuff is overwhelming, but I think I am leaning towards using the 19" LCD because of the weight savings, ease of installation, and I am fine with the way the old games look on it. I'm using hyperspin as the Front end and want to use a nice video card to handle all the videos and flash.

Now on to my question, I wanted to see what some of you guys have done with your cabinets with a 19" 4:3 monitor installed.  I know there may be far and few people with this type, so any cabinet with a LCD would be nice to see.

My issue is that I have a Konami Run and Gun 4-player cabinet (similar to x-men and simpsons) and a 19" monitor would get lost in that cabinet.

 So i'm most likely going to scrap that one and make something from scratch that will accomodate two 8-way joysticks, one 4-way, a trackball and whatever buttons I need. I'm going to pick up one of these bezels to finish it all out

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11&products_id=662

Anybody have anything they wouldn't mind posting pics of? With a 19" monitor? I need inspiration and a direction on which to take mine.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 02:34:35 pm »
I think a good rule of thumb is to build the cab around the dimensions of the monitor, a big bezel looks bad.  I think slim style cabinets look good with the LCD screens, like knievels ever popular woody

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 09:57:45 pm »
19.5 inch wide bartop with 19 inch LCD
« Last Edit: February 09, 2011, 10:02:49 pm by BobA »

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 01:05:02 am »
A 19" LCD will actually be 5:4 rather than 4:3.

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 06:37:50 am »
Yes, 19 inch 4:3 is NEVER made, they are all 1280x1024=5:4. The real 4:3 LCD's BTW are also the best screens for cabs too. But you have to search 20 or 21.3 inch for these 1600x1200 marvels. I use a 27 inch 1920x1200, it is a good compromise of offering near 19 inch classic vertical estate, same as 24 inch 4:3 horizontal CRT's and 1:1 pixel mapping for FullHD of modern titles. As it is a PVA monitor, it is nearly as black as the bezel, so the bars don't bother.

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 12:17:43 pm »
I have a 21.3" I am using.  Love it.

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2011, 05:43:52 pm »
BobA is your cab 19.5 inches wide in total or is that just the bezel width (interior)? what is the width of the black of your bezel on one side?

I am having a similar issue, I am making a weecade clone but have a 19" monitor (4:3 or 5:4) instead of a 17" while also trying to fit a 2 player 6 button CP. I am trying to figure out the right width for the cab and I cut the interior width to 20 inches but sizing it up it seems like it will have roughly 2.5 inches on each side of the bezel. looks like a little too much framing (too much black on the inside)

Anyone have a 2 player 6 button layout with a 19" LCD screen and can supply their width that plays comfortably? Anyone have a recommendation for bezel width from monitor to edge? for a 19"monitor?

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2011, 06:17:21 pm »
I have an HP LP2065 19" LCD as a spare in case my 19" CRT dies.  I wouldn't trade it for the world.  1600x1200, 4:3 AR and an IPS panel.  There simply isn't a better LCD for a MAME cabinet.  If you can find one on eBay, get it.

This may also help:
http://lcdtech.no-ip.info/en/data/lcd.panels.in.monitors.htm?sz=&tm=&sm=&res=&br=&cr=&rt=&va=&man=&typ=&pan=&showobsolete=on

Edit: Holy crap.  There used to be none for sale, now eBay is loaded with them!
« Last Edit: February 16, 2011, 06:19:15 pm by robertsig »

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 11:11:55 am »
I have an HP LP2065 19" LCD
That's a twenty! 19 inch 4:3 does not exist!
They are still available new BTW. Shop some now you can!

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 11:20:24 am »
Nice list!

This 18 inch is a weird one:
1600×1200
IIyama
AU4831D   200   300:1   25   170/170   Hitachi   S-IPS   TX48D11VC0CAB

Also interesting
ASUS
3C / L3800C   15.0" 1400×1050   IDTech N150P3-L01 (IPS)


IBM
ThinkPad R50p   15.0" 1400×1050   IDTech N150P3-L01 (IPS)
ThinkPad R51   15.0" 1400×1050   Samsung LTN150P1-L02 (TN TFT), IDTech N150P3-L01 (IPS)
ThinkPad T42   15.0" 1400×1050   IDTech N150P3 (IPS), LG.Philips LP150E05 (S-IPS)
ThinkPad T43   15.0" 1400×1050   IDTech N150P3 (IPS), LG.Philips LP150E05 (S-IPS)
ThinkPad T60   15.0" 1400×1050   LG.Philips LP150E05 (S-IPS)

Compaq
Evo n800w   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech IAUX14P (IPS) (HOLY CRAP!)
IBM
ThinkPad A31p   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech IAUX14S (TN TFT), IDTech N150U3-L06 (IPS)
ThinkPad R50p   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS)
ThinkPad T40   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS)
ThinkPad T40p   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS)
ThinkPad T41   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS)
ThinkPad T41p   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS)
ThinkPad T42   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS)
ThinkPad T42p   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS), IDTech N150U3 (IPS)
ThinkPad T43   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS)
ThinkPad T43p   15.0" 1600×1200   IDTech N150U3 (IPS)

That's some ancient Retina displays!

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2011, 11:29:03 am »
The number of 4:3 IPS monitors *with decent latency" though are very few.  That's why the LP2065 shines.

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 10:23:39 pm »
All this time and I didn't realize 1280x1024 was 5:4.  Sort of embarassing that I've spent so much time with monitors and let something so easy slip by. 

 


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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 08:58:18 am »
The number of 4:3 IPS monitors *with decent latency" though are very few.  That's why the LP2065 shines.

These old ones do pretty well on input lag. The problem is lowering the response time increases the lag. So many old IPS screen have 8-16ms response time, yet close to 0 lag. Some new TN monitors have 2ms response time, yet nobody tells you the input lag can be 30-60 ms in some models to prepare all the PWM colour interpolation and other image optimising.

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Re: Lets see your cabinets with 19" 4:3 monitors
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2011, 09:46:20 am »
Here is another excellent LCD monitor review site from my favorites.  Many of their reviews measure input lag as well as panel latency.

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/reviews.html