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Ginsu Victim:
--- Quote from: Osirus23 on August 29, 2010, 10:45:38 pm ---This thread makes me sick, people selling MAME and we have users here cheering them on. This site has really gone downhill.
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I hear ya.
shateredsoul:
come on seriously, maybe we're not understanding each other.. there seems to be several points of disagreement.
so what is the part that pisses people off?
1. He's profiting
2. It's illegal to distribute roms
3. He included mame and mala in the advertising therefore breaking the agreement?
If it's 1, ok fine, that makes sense to me. He doesn't seem to be profiting too much, but he's profiting off something that can be downloaded for free (although this act of downloading is still illegal).
If it's 2, then I still agree with nitz and pinballwiz. When you get your roms through torrents you're still giving it to other and you are still downloading without owning the pcb. Many of these roms are still being sold on classic collections and through new download setups on newer systems.
3. Agreed, he shouldn't advertise as mame or include mala to avoid hurting those projects and due to the agreements.
Hmmm I guess the worst part is that his actions go against the hacker code (or open sources spirit), to redistribute for free at no cost and no profit. I bet if he offered to burn dvds for those who supplied their own dvds at no cost to the sender (other than paying their own shipping) this would be seen as ok. If this wasn't worth his while he also would probably not be going out of his way to setup an ebay account and sell it.
I don't think that people are supporting him (at least I don't), but they want us to reflect on the fact that what we are doing is not that great either.. who are we to tell another person that they are doing wrong when to run mame one must have done something "wrong" at some point. Unless you dumped your own pcbs.
nitz:
--- Quote from: Osirus23 on August 29, 2010, 10:45:38 pm ---This thread makes me sick, people selling MAME and we have users here cheering them on. This site has really gone downhill.
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I certainly wouldn't cheer anyone on who is selling MAME.
I was talking about selling roms, and not even so much for profit, but people basically taking a few dollars to cover DVDs, time, and postage.
Anyone who thinks that's worse than downloading from a torrent is kidding themselves, plain and simple. It's virtually the same thing, as I already stated. And I think we could all be doing better things with our time than reporting these people and getting into endless debates about it - me included. ;)
Those are the only two points I was trying to make.
pinballwizard79:
--- Quote from: Osirus23 on August 29, 2010, 10:45:38 pm ---This thread makes me sick, people selling MAME and we have users here cheering them on. This site has really gone downhill.
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Bahahahahahaha now thats funny!
The dude isnt selling mame per se, he is selling the Roms! No one is cheering him on either, we are simply not backing up hypocritical anti DVD statements. Would you Nancy's feel better if he only sold the roms & changed the listing to "complete set of arcade emulator roms".
Hmmmmm, then what would the problem be? Damn I just solved the age old puzzle! We call them arcade emulator roms & sell em everywhere without pissing off torrent fanoys!
Deal?
Oh yeah my most recent set was torrent, see I dont discriminate :cheers:
SlayerAlex:
--- Quote from: shateredsoul on August 29, 2010, 11:07:00 pm ---come on seriously, maybe we're not understanding each other.. there seems to be several points of disagreement.
so what is the part that pisses people off?
1. He's profiting
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ya for me its number 1. Id like to make money off other peoples work too ya know. But i dont because i thought it was not allowed. So now because i dont, this guy has more of a monopoly on the product. tottaly unfair. So if ebay is allowing this, then me, (and lots of others like me) would love to give this guy competition.
Just some consistency would be nice. IS it allowed or not?
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