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Time to knock on his door
tommyinajar:
Regardless if you think selling roms, Mala or whatever is wrong for even the price of the time and DVD's. We could just start a thread and flag and report them with the uncaged fury of the BYOAC members :angry:
:laugh: :laugh:
There were a few in New York/New Jersey we started on, and the guy started responding on CL to quit flagging him.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/vgm/1922281994.html
pinballwizard79:
So you guys think its morally "ok" to steal something as long as you dont sell it or give it away right? Thats where you draw your line in the sand?
If you buy (edit: torrent) a prostitute you are no better than the pimp or the trollop, so get off your copyright infringing self righteous horses & give the guy a break. $20 = this dude is a ---smurfing--- saint helping the community. Those who oppose please delete your hard drive full of stolen ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to show me how much you believe in your cause.
Meanwhile I am going to watch my ebay acquired public domain 20 dvd set of all 190 three stooges episodes.
I feel so dirty
shateredsoul:
He has a point..
Oftentimes this argument is veiled as an argument about the rights of the companies who created the games... if that were the case then we wouldn't download those roms ourselves (it doesn't matter if it's for preservation, I can't steal a copy of an important museum document in order to make a copy for the sake or preservation). I don't think what' he's doing is right either, but I do see the contradiction here that most of you who are complaining have already "stolen" roms. He's making some money off of someone else's stealing... I do consider it stealing when you make a copy of a board and then resell it. It's like renting an xbox 360 game then copying it to a jtagged 360, buying a music cd copying it to itunes then returning it, etc etc.. We all are doing something that is technically stealing (even if you do it for the sake preservation, doesn't matter).
My question is, would you guys still report this fellow if he wasn't using the mame or mala name? If he didn't includes those brand names he wouldn't be violating any of the mame or mala agreement. And since those roms aren't released by the mame team (...right?), there should be no bigger issue there than what we all are doing when we download rom sets.
The real issue is whether he can package mame and use the mame name (same with mala).. so why not stick to that argument? The rom argument is null when all of the people disputing it are romers. He violated the mame and mala agreements, lets stick to that argument since that is the only real argument that can be head (considering we all had to acquire the roms in non-legit ways and building a mame collection requires that one do this).
nitz:
--- Quote from: pinballwizard79 on August 29, 2010, 02:53:01 pm ---So you guys think its morally "ok" to steal something as long as you dont sell it or give it away right? Thats where you draw your line in the sand?
If you buy (edit: torrent) a prostitute you are no better than the pimp or the trollop, so get off your copyright infringing self righteous horses & give the guy a break. $20 = this dude is a ---smurfing--- saint helping the community. Those who oppose please delete your hard drive full of stolen ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to show me how much you believe in your cause.
Meanwhile I am going to watch my ebay acquired public domain 20 dvd set of all 190 three stooges episodes.
I feel so dirty
--- End quote ---
+1
I've never understood why people who download their roms from a torrent, meaning that you're sharing them as well (ie, giving roms to people) get angry when someone sells DVDs of the roms, but ONLY charges enough to cover the discs, shipping, and maybe a few dollars for his time (ie, giving roms to people). It's the same thing, only the medium is different.
I kinda get it if someone's charging $100 for a few DVDs - that is a douchey thing to do, but anyone who buys something like this online without researching it first is asking to get ripped off. I'm not saying it's right or that they deserve it - no one deserves to be taken advantage of, but they're asking for it.
I also get it if people are upset that it attracts negative attention to mame. But I don't think that's usually people's main concern.
I've also never understood people's fixation on trying to police this kind of stuff. Is that really a good use of your time? Is anyone really getting hurt? Does it even affect you other than you don't like it? These threads always remind me of a guy I know. He gets worked up about every little injustice he sees no matter how minor or how little it affects him. He'll go on a 10 minute rant, red-faced and veins popping, about basically nothing. I feel sorry for him. It seems like a sucky way to go through life.
This forum is a valuable source of info and I love you guys and I love hanging out here. :applaud: But I'm gonna paraphrase pinballwizard: Man up and go play some games!!! ;) :lol
Osirus23:
This thread makes me sick, people selling MAME and we have users here cheering them on. This site has really gone downhill.
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