WOW New LightGUN Info !!! Woot!!! :)

[postalp123]

Hey All,
  I just got my LCDTopGun yesterday.  I followed silver's tips, used smog's driver, and had everything working within 10 minutes.

  This is by far the best gun I've ever tried.  Thanks to everyone who pioneered this path for the rest of us (and EMS too)!

Talk about a Mutually Happy Ending. 

[MustardTent]

As your emoticons show, it's time for a beer (and then it's time to blast some stinkin t-1000s)

[Lilwolf]

Anyone try the new drivers from EMS?  They mention they are compatible with MAME now.

[MustardTent]

Are you speaking of the 3.2 drivers?

I saw them on the EMS page, but I didn't use them as they weren't mentioned in any of the faq pages that I found. 

Didn't feel like using a base which, in the past, seemed to cause lots of trouble.

[aljupy]

I tried on March before Formatting my Unit C:\

EMS driver just worked for me with Mameplus if the option "LightGun" was enabled. ( It seems that LightGun option is for that kind of drivers and Mouse option is for Act Lab

[daveg2000]

I just realized my TopGUn has been sitting in the bottom of my arcade cabinet collecting dust for a good 8 months at least....

I had it working okay the last time I used it, but had to stand kind of awkwardly 'left' of my screen to get it calibrated and to play.

Has there been any improvements or other major breakthroughs in the last 5 months or so that I should know about if I dig the thing back out?

Has there been any light guns put out that put this one to shame yet?
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Edit:  Wow. I just configured using the newest EMS drivers, and the gun seems to be
tracking better than it did before... but now I also have a newer mame.
I can get the crosshairs to move around the screen, but it seems as if the bullets shoot right in the middle of the screen... like the gun is not tracking with the crosshairs...?
Are there some different commands in Mame that I have to use for gun tracking now?
I'm doing some searches, but coming up blank.

[Bluedeath]

Try to use SMOG's drivers never had any problems with them.

[daveg2000]

I found in the latest version of mame, I have to use
"-lightgun_device mouse" in the command line, then I have
to go into the games input settings and set player1's
analog gun settings for my X and Y axis.
Things are looking up...

[skarr]

where can you buy these now that lik-sang is out of business ?

[Silver]

where can you buy these now that lik-sang is out of business ?

There is a post about 5 away from this that answers that, as will simply using google.

Anyway, here is one:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-1i-49-en-70-16s7.html

[MacroX]

I were test this gun in PS3 machine. It is work Fine.

[releasedtruth]

I must be the odd man out. I just got 2 and the computer won't even boot if they're plugged in and if you do plug them in, once the driver loads, computer crashes. Smog's drivers, the EMS 3.2 drivers, doesn't matter. So far I'm regretting even the bad idea of buying these poorly designed HK hacks.

GT

[Negativecreep0]

What game am You play ps3 with gun? am there no gun game?

[Cananas]

I must be the odd man out. I just got 2 and the computer won't even boot if they're plugged in and if you do plug them in, once the driver loads, computer crashes. Smog's drivers, the EMS 3.2 drivers, doesn't matter. So far I'm regretting even the bad idea of buying these poorly designed HK hacks.

GT

I think your problem could be your motherboard. Try to find some bios update and read the readme.txt if one of them updates usb ports

[releasedtruth]

Well, it turns out that one of the 2 is bad so I'm sending it back, bad like the plague. I've got the other gun working real nicely. I'm not sure how to set up for 2 guns in mame, but since it plays as "mouse 2" I've been using player 2 in any games that have 2p. I'll get it figured out and hipefully get a new gun to try out.

GT

[MacroX]

What game am You play ps3 with gun? am there no gun game?

Hello, I'm used PS2 games, and play in PS3. the screen very sharp, that work with LCD topgun very fine. and I'm used project for display.

[loungn14]

I am having a heck of a time getting both guns working at the same time...

I have tried smogs drivers as well as winguns...

I am able to get one gun working with no problems, it seems that the other will not get up and running.  I was able to get both working for a brief time using smogs drivers, but after a reboot, I had only one gun working, and the other just laying there.

so tried wingun..

In wingun, detect finds both guns, but is unable to run through the software calibration on teh 2nd.  I can go into info and see that it is getting input as I press buttons, but it does not work in windows as a mouse.  It also seems that the control panel in wingun keeps going back to gun 1 even though I click gun2 (any try to calibrate)-  The origional install hung on waiting on gun2

I have tried both a usb hub, as well as pluggin everything into the motherboard.

anyone have any ideas?

win xp sp2

[releasedtruth]

I got 2 guns working by first connecting and calibrating 1 gun, then connecting and calibrating the second. Smogs drivers picked them both up and they both operate as mice just fine. Works in mame32 really well if I have 'act labs compatibility' selected. If not, the trigger on one won't work.

I can't seem to enable dual guns/mice in Hotd2/3 though, doesn't detect a 2nd mouse, just the one. Would be nice to dual player it.

GT

[Smog]

hotd is not supposed to work with 2 mices ... download and install the troubleshooter (it hacks game register to make it work) and be sure you have the actlab compatibility on (You really don't need it in mame !?!?).

Anyway you should be able to setup both guns together.

[releasedtruth]

Ah yes, the mighty troubleshooter. Shame on me for not remembering that. It's good to be in gun town, let me tell you.

GT

[mrserv0n]

The program I am having with my LCD TOPGUN it works fine in windows and emulates the mouse. I can open up LCDgun2mouse 3.2 and all the buttons press and register. I click start. Go into mame and play a game and nothing works not even the start button to enter coins or any buttons let alone the pointer. What am I doing wrong?

[Fozzy The Bear]

What am I doing wrong?

What you're doing wrong is not reading the thread and not reading the Wiki like you were told to in your other thread!! Try reading the setup guide in the wiki.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[mrserv0n]

Im sorry I read the silverfox thing. It doesnt address my question my gun is already setup.  I mean if you have one I don't see why you can't just help me instead of giving me the run around. Do you not think i looked here prior to posting it is a huge forum, I looked through every page all 43 and found nothing explaining my issue.

[Fozzy The Bear]

Im sorry I read the silverfox thing. It doesnt address my question [SNIP] I looked through every page all 43 and found nothing explaining my issue.

You didn't look very far or very carefully then did you..... You also didn't tell us which version of Mame you are using, that makes it difficult to be accurate with an answer. However, try the following:

If your gun works in windows it WILL work in Mame.

Edit your mame.ini file to contain:

mouse 0
joystick 0
lightgun 0
dual_lightgun 0
lightgun_device lightgun

If that doesn't work then it may be that you're running a later version of Mame and another solution will be applicable. Things have changed slightly in recent releases.

All of the above information is in this thread, that you say you read, and in the setup info, that you also say you read.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[mrserv0n]

I am using .111 mame. I already DID edit my mame.ini file and added that line just like I READ PRIOR TO POSTING.  I had done all those things, tried all the drivers etc. I don't know what is wrong. maybe I will try a different version of mame. Or maybe I am choosing the wrong controller settings..

For my mame game properties what should my controllers and controller mapping be set to?

Also The hardest part for me to understand is why the buttons a-d and start and select work in the calibration and testing software but in the game they do not. The mouse is one thing but shouldnt my A key on the gun which is set to Coin in , work? That is why I am thinking I may just have my controller mapping messed up or something..

[Fozzy The Bear]

That is why I am thinking I may just have my controller mapping messed up or something..

It's possible... but unlikely, if you're not getting a cursor response in mame gun games either, then there's something else wrong here.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[patrickmaher]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before. A quick forum search didn't show it mentioned in this thread.

When I went to the LCD TopGun page I noticed they are offering new LED stands for larger screens. http://www.hkems.com/product/xbox/TopGunBlazeStand.htm

[Smog]

What you're doing wrong is not reading the thread and not reading the Wiki like you were told to in your other thread!! Try reading the setup guide in the wiki.

Fozzy I gave a quick look at the wiki, since I saw you always address at it, and realized most of the infos are old, incorrect or not applicable to mame version above 105.

You were on the scene since the beginning and surely know a lot of things are changed in the last year since the first version of the guncon2 driver. You know how to move reading around, know what's old and what is actual ... but being in a newbie-mind ..  well ... I guess it's very hard to understand something

finally, I dont' think that wiki is a good point to start if not updated (yes I could change it by myself but, I am sure you won't believe me on this, I've probably forgotten half of the things I've done with the guns).

[Fozzy The Bear]

Fozzy I gave a quick look at the wiki, since I saw you always address at it, and realized most of the infos are old, incorrect or not applicable to mame version above 105.

Hi Smog.... Nice to hear from you again. I think that was what I said. If he's running a newer version of mame then it has changed.

I'm running 104 in the cab at the moment and that information would be correct for that version.

What he needs to figure out is how to enable lightguns in the current version, and that will be in the MAME documentation somewhere.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[Circo]

Yeah I am having the same problems with mame 110 works great in windows but nothing in mame.  I will keep fooling with it and post if I can get any life at all out of it.  For now though I have a ps2 hooked into my cab as well and they work great for that.

[mrserv0n]

Thanks Circo, Nice to know someone realizes there is a issue and I am not retarded as Fozzy seems to imply. I will do the same for you as well.  I am going to try a couple older versions and see if I have any results. I will keep you posted.

[Cananas]

Maybe (I didn't test the 0.111 Mame version) this topic is related:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=60564.0

[LightspeedJack]

First off I would like to thank those of you that monitor this thread and attempt to provide support to people having trouble.

Your help is greatly appreciated!!

I have been researching light guns, and I agree that the LCD TopGun stands out from the rest. I recently ordered two from PlayAsia, as well as a Blaze stand ( for screens >60 inches ) so that I can play on a projector that I have.

When the guns came yesterday I ran into a problem setting them up, that I couldn't figure out on my own.

As soon as I plug the guns in, Windows automatically detects them and installs drivers. However, it installs them as "Generic USB Hub", and seems to be perfectly content with that.

I tried using all 3 drivers available: EMS drivers v 3.2, Acron's WinGun ( latest version ), and Smog's drivers ( latest version ).

Each driver installed successfully ( and yes, I uninstalled previous drivers before each new one ), but couldn't detect a gun connected.

If I uninstalled the driver for "Generic USB Hub", the gun apps still won't detect a gun. After a few minutes, windows re-installs the "Generic USB Hub" drivers.

Whenever I move the gun to a different USB port, it reinstalls the Generic USB Hub drivers.

I am running Windows Vista Beta (build 5384), which I'm sure is part of the problem.

Has anyone ever heard of this happening to someone? Is there a way to get around it or am I stuck?

P.S. I am only working with one gun atm, I have not tried plugging in two at once. Baby steps.

Thanks!
~Jack

[Smog]

I tried using all 3 drivers available: EMS drivers v 3.2, Acron's WinGun ( latest version ), and Smog's drivers ( latest version ).

I know people who had to format after that
Joke apart ... vista is not yet out, don't you think is too early to submit problems about it ?

[rdowdy95]

Guys I don't know if this is old news, but in newer versions of mame.  Treat a light gun like a mouse.  Just put a 1 in the config next to mouse.  That ought to get you started.  Then in each MAME game try to calibrate.  Some mame games are different in the way you will calibrate for that game.

Good luck!

Also sometimes you need to hit tab and set prefs for certain games.  There is a section on Act-labs website that will tell you some info on setting this up. 

http://www.act-labs.com/products/Act%20Labs%20Light%20Guns%20on%20XP.htm

That link above should get you all set.  Good luck again!

[rdowdy95]

I know you have the Top Gun, but the mame setup should be the same.

[mrserv0n]

Well get this... I have a laptop too. So I copy my MAME .106 folder to my laptop. Keeping everything in tact as it is on the PC and the damn thing plays PERFECT gun just works!. SO this tells me it has nothing to do with MAME at all. My mame settings are correct where they stand. The issue is this..
When I load game in mame my mouse cursor disappears on the desktop and boom its in game and my gun is emulating the mouse. HOWEVER at this point my touch pad mouse does not work. so the gun has overridden it. On the desktop the REAL mouse is overriding the gun. I unplugged the real mouse and had the gun emulate the mouse alone. Still no results. Somewhere there is a conflict in windows not mame..

[u_rebelscum]

.... My mame settings are correct where they stand. The issue is this..
When I load game in mame my mouse cursor disappears on the desktop and boom its in game and my gun is emulating the mouse. HOWEVER at this point my touch pad mouse does not work. so the gun has overridden it. On the desktop the REAL mouse is overriding the gun. I unplugged the real mouse and had the gun emulate the mouse alone. Still no results. Somewhere there is a conflict in windows not mame..

Except for the italicized above, sounds like a remapping mame issue.  Mame now sees each mouse, lightgun, touchpad, and other mouse devices separately.  This means the default mapping is that "player 1" uses "mouse 1", "player 2" uses "mouse 2", etc.  If the gun is "mouse 4", you have to map mame's "player 1 lightgun" to "mouse 4".  Plugging in and unplugging can renumber the mice (which is done by windows, and it might be that you laptop has the gun as "mouse 1" while your desktop has your gun as, say, "mouse 3").

If you already remapped the lightgun axes as linked and it doesn't work, sorry I missed you saying that you tried.  (Add yes, the remapping needs to be done the same with the LCD gun.)

[mrserv0n]

Hey your post is phenomenal. And EXACTLY what I was trying to get at.  With your  help I got it working. Now the next dilemma is getting it calibrated properly in the game....
 

[LightspeedJack]

I tried using all 3 drivers available: EMS drivers v 3.2, Acron's WinGun ( latest version ), and Smog's drivers ( latest version ).

I know people who had to format after that
Joke apart ... vista is not yet out, don't you think is too early to submit problems about it ?

Vista is in beta, and readily available to anyone to download, so why not? People are using it ^_^

Plus I'm dying to play