UltraCade wins AMOA 2005 Innovation Award

[Stingray]

We own several character rights including Mr. DO!

-S

[DarkKobold]

if you check the history of the MAME situation, we worked with the MAME team, not against them.

[davidrfoley]

Actually we do own the character rights, we have purchased several of them outright.

[DarkKobold]

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=32730.msg276462#msg276462

Strange... You make no mention of Mr. Do in this email exchange.... I wonder how he would get it confused, doing a DIRECT COPY.

[Havok]

funny since you have never once attempted that, instead you throw accusations of wrong doing, and yet, you don't represent any of the companies that you claim have issue with us, and none of them actually do.

[ChadTower]

...though, if they are not directly involved in said injustice, no one is obligated to listen to them.

[Crazy Cooter]

What is your interest?

[Crazy Cooter]

...though, if they are not directly involved in said injustice, no one is obligated to listen to them.

Exactly. 

[davidrfoley]

Cooter, the exchange you quote is incomplete and taken out of context. 

[Crazy Cooter]

Care to elaborate?  That's what was given to us.

[Bones]

When a person feels they are innocent of false accusations usually you would expect a passionate argument from them stating their facts and/or point of view.

Given the opportunity this invitation has not been accepted and the previous replies have done nothing to inform or educate the reader.

I would have thought a person given the chance to "clear their name", if indeed not as sneaky as they claim, would grab this opportunity with both hands and shake.

This has not happenend so I for one am forced to believe all the negative propaganda I have read over the previous months.

[davidrfoley]

I've elaborated multiple times.  Read the threads.

[Crazy Cooter]

I've elaborated multiple times. Read the threads.

Huh?  You only have 20 posts.

I think there are only three threads you've participated in.  None of which have discussed emdkay AFAIK.  You say you didn't ask for a royalty, his post from that day says you did, you say it's out of context.  What are we missing?  This is a spectacular opportunity to enlighten us.  It's a very specific issue.

[davidrfoley]

what more can I say, you do not have the entire threads, and what was discussed only peices.

It's a dead subject that was resolved 8 months ago.

[paigeoliver]

Back on the topic.

Is perhaps the Breeder's Cup title a bit late? The Derby Owner's club machine at my local hangouts seems to have had a massive drop off in play over the last year and a half, even though they cut the price per credit substantially?

Of course thay could be just one location.

Mr. Foley. I also must question the decision on the joysticks I have seen in every Ultracade machine I have ever played, they favor the diagonals heavily and make many games less than enjoyable. A joystick like the Happ Super with a more normal distribution of directions would have done wonders for the product and added almost nothing to the cost. My Robotron top score at home is over a million, my Robotron top score on the nearest Ultracade is almost 200,000. The poor quality joysticks are to blame.

[davidrfoley]

Breeders' Cup is not late.  DOC is dropping off because it does not have tournaments or incentive for novice players.  You'll see Breeders' Cup for a long time to come.

We ship with a Happ Super joystick, so if the cabinet you played on doesn't have it, that means the operator didn't install it.

[DarkKobold]

The real thing is, do we expect him to say,
"Why yes, I knowingly committed a felony. I am guilty of asking for royalties for a trademark that I did not own. I am also guilty of trying to trademark a logo for a product I did not create, using artwork that I did not create."

He isn't going to admit he committed a felony, regardless of the proof we state. Really, he is a typical buisness man, who only cares about the bottom line. The only reason he went to the MAME community is because of the backlash that occurred. He knows that it would be far worse if he didn't cooperate. Lets face it, how hard would it be to join the communities to get the top websearch for Ultracade, Arcade Legends, etc, to be a boycott ultracade website on google?

He is shrewd, but we can't win by arguing on a message board. Crazy Cooter's signature is the last remaining shred of a failed boycott. Besides, your typical BW3s and "The Post" bars are not going to give half-a-rats-ass about the horrible things he has done to this community. Face it, he won.

[Bones]

A man cannot escape his history. Nothing has been won, there just hasn't been enough time elapse for karma to take its inevitable course.

[davidrfoley]

Actually, the entire world has won, because the TM is no protected under Nicola's name.  The MAME team has updated the license agreement, and pirates are now shut down.

[Rook3]

Now, since I have dealt with Ebay's VERO program, I can say that it is certainly possible that that was a result of errors in implementing their VERO protection.

I too have experienced this on several occasions. Sell a movie poster, get auction pulled because you compare the poster to others you're selling. WTF?

Sell a piece of artwork or movie prop replica, mention the name of the movie and suddenly you're accused of Keyword spamming. That one irritates me more than anything because I see hundreds of auctions listing "Item A for auction, NOT similar namebrand Item B, or C or D..."

Very annoying.

Russ
 

[Hoopz]

Actually, the entire world has won, because the TM is no protected under Nicola's name. The MAME team has updated the license agreement, and pirates are now shut down.

That will probably make the homeless and suffering because of Katrina feel better.

[davidrfoley]

Piracy is not dead, but is severely reduced on eBay.

[Harry Potter]

The MAME team has updated the license agreement, and pirates are now shut down.

No offence Dave, but that's funny.
Software pirates are like bubbles under wallpaper.

[Hoopz]

Piracy is not dead, but is severely reduced on eBay.

OUSTANDING.

[Harry Potter]

Piracy is not dead, but is severely reduced on eBay.

There are places outside of ebay. Hope you got heaps of spare time to patrol them all.

[paigeoliver]

Ok, well I am happy to hear they are coming with Supers, every machine I have played has had Ultimate's installed and they are terrible for most styles of games.

[emdkay]

Cooter, the exchange you quote is incomplete and taken out of context. 

There seems to be some [more] misinformation spewing out of the mouth of Foley, I'll clarify:

The email quotes I posted in the original thread (remember, when you tried to steal the Mame trademark and claim it as your own) were VERBATIM.  I posted our email correspondence word for word - even against the advice of others.  The only thing I omitted was the price of some of my materials I sent to you (which I completely made-up anyway).  That was before I realized the shrew that you really are. 

You did request that I pay you royalties.  I don't see how any rational person could misunderstand what you had stated. 

Also, your press releases and awards mean nothing to anybody in the arcade community.  You are well known as a scrupulous and conniving monster.  It doesn't matter which awards your company receives.  You can put a bowtie on a turd, it's still crap underneath.  You should be ashamed of yourself. 

[davidrfoley]

I'm very proud of my company and EVERYTHING that we have ever done, if you don't like it, too bad.

[emdkay]

I'm very proud of my company and EVERYTHING that we have ever done, if you don't like it, too bad.

Do you care to reply about the issue about these emails that you state were out of context?  I posted them word for word.  Let's see your side. 

(I'm sure you'll think twice about where you post these worthless press releases next time)

[davidrfoley]

You did not post them word for word, you left out several messages from the discussion.

[Bones]

Do you care to reply about the issue about these emails that you state were out of context?

[davidrfoley]

No one wishes to discuss or to listen, instead they just want to spout how we tried to steal something, and it is simply not true.

We used legal tactics to stop the piracy, and it worked.  Bottom line. 

If people wish to think otherwise, reality shows you different.  We have an open line with the MAME team.  We put stop to piracy on a daily basis.  We enforce our character and game rights.

[SirPoonga]

if you check the history of the MAME situation, we worked with the MAME team, not against them.  FACTS, let's not let those cloud up this forum, that would be terrible.

Where, before that quote, did we say you were against the mame team?

We used legal tactics to stop the piracy, and it worked.  Bottom line.

Shutting auctions down by claiming you trademarked something that isn't trademarked is legal?  Especially when it involves shutting down legitimate auctions that only mentioned the word mame and weren't selling anything illegal or piracy involved?

No one is disputing the fact that you shut down illegal auctions, that is a good thing.

We enforce our character and game rights.

Which is fine because they are your characters and game rights.  But when you try to enforce something that isn't yours...

[Bones]

I see, now I understand completely.

Those who put their own case forward do so but only with the use of fabricated emails which you claim are incomplete and instantly dismiss.

Everything you have done has been nothing short of altruistic and everyone who has challenged you is wrong or short sighted or just plain doesn't listen.

I am done here, I see no point in continuing.

[davidrfoley]

ebay Doesn't allow anyone to shut down anything unless they have documented proof of ownership.  We have filed all of our copyrights, trademarks, and license agreements with VeRo.  Any and all auctions shut down by us are due to violation of our rights, period.

[davidrfoley]

Broken Bones, that was my point, this thread is 8 months old and useless.  Let's move forward.

[SirPoonga]

ebay Doesn't allow anyone to shut down anything unless they have documented proof of ownership.  We have filed all of our copyrights, trademarks, and license agreements with VeRo.  Any and all auctions shut down by us are due to violation of our rights, period.

Well, I hate to keep this going but Vero is known to just shut things down because someone said it was illegal.    That's been proven many times, not just in this community but others too.  Someone could claim they have a trademark to something and Vero will shut down.  If you did have a trademark for mame you could have shut those auctions down.  But since you didn't, only pending, there was no right.

Let's move forward.

True that.  But people are going to look at your past if they want to buy anything in the future...

[markrvp]

Mr. Foley:

Someone posted a link to a vendor who claimed on their site that the Ultracade machines have been discontinued.  Is this correct?

[davidrfoley]

Actually VeRo won't shut anything down without substantial proof.  Believe me, we have a person whose full time job is monitoring eBay and other websites for pirated items.   They require paperwork from us before they will shut anything down.

[MaximRecoil]

Shutting auctions down by claiming you trademarked something that isn't trademarked is legal?