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Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: gajaman on September 28, 2008, 07:25:26 am
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I am dismantlling my main Mame cabinet for to make room for a redesigned version. My current cab has a 4:3 screen ratio 28" tube tv which is a good size and works well. To save space the redesigned cab is going to have a flat screen monitor but I can't find one bigger than 20" in a 4:3 screen ratio, I can only find widescreens which will not work for me.
Does anyone know anyone that still sells 22" - 28" 4:3 ratio flat screen monitors? I am in th UK but if needs must I'll have to pay shipping from the US.
Thanks
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Im afraid your out of luck, its a shame but they just don't seem to make large 4:3 LCDs :(
The largest one I know is the 21" Samsung SyncMaster 214T. Its not exactly cheap tho ~£440.
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Thanks, that's what I thought.
I've seen a 20" 4:3 on Dabs for £100, looks like I maight have to go with that. Thought it was worth an ask in case I'd missed somethig somewhere.
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The 214T is really kick-ass in quality of image.
If you want bigger, you can also get a DELL 2709 and hide the left and right part under a bezel. It will leave you with a 4:3 screen of 24 inch.
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Not sure if Fry's ships to the UK, but this was in the ads this morning:
http://shop4.frys.com/product/5636921?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG (http://shop4.frys.com/product/5636921?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG)
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Thanks for the tip. Looks like Frys will ship to the UK but I need to get them to confirm the cost. Unfortunately the $60 rebate is only for peeps based in the US. Still, might be a runner if the shipping isn't too steep.
Obviously the US power lead is different but I guess I can just substitute this for a UK one I've already got without any problems?
Also the PAL/NTSC stuff doesn't apply to monitors does it?
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Thats a 16:10 screen (1680x1050 pixels)
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I think the main point is that the screen is square, not rectangular like widescreens.
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I think what Blanka was saying was that according to the specs it is a widescreen.
The picture on Frys page may be slightly deceptive? Emprex specs (http://www.emprex.com/02_products_02.php?id=277)
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I think we'll start seeing arcade LCD's soon. Somebody linked a page with one made to replace 25" CRT's by Happ or Betson (can't remember which). Thing with them is they're going to be very spendy.
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Not only are they hard to find, they are also hard to find in large sizes and if you do find any they are also pretty expensive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010190020%201301922115%201309821324&bop=And&Order=PRICE
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Not only are they hard to find, they are also hard to find in large sizes and if you do find any they are also pretty expensive.
Thats where the Samsung 214T comes in. Still not cheap compared to all the TN crap in stores, but it is much better priced than the ones on New Egg here.
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I think we'll start seeing arcade LCD's soon. Somebody linked a page with one made to replace 25" CRT's by Happ or Betson (can't remember which). Thing with them is they're going to be very spendy.
All the Lindberghs and the likes go for 16:9 1366x768 pixel TV's. Doubt anybody is going to make 25 inch 4:3's for restauration purposes only. These panel factories work by the 100000's.
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I think we'll start seeing arcade LCD's soon. Somebody linked a page with one made to replace 25" CRT's by Happ or Betson (can't remember which). Thing with them is they're going to be very spendy.
All the Lindberghs and the likes go for 16:9 1366x768 pixel TV's. Doubt anybody is going to make 25 inch 4:3's for restauration purposes only. These panel factories work by the 100000's.
I can't find the link at the moment. Perhaps someone will see it and post the link. It was a 24.8 (I think) drop in replacement for 25 and 27's, but its not out yet. It won't be for restoration only... IT will use them by the thousands for Golden Tee, Silver Strike, etc.
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Please look hard for it! I need bigger 4:3 :banghead:
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The Frys one has now gone up by $100!
Looks like it's widescreen anyway so now not the best way forward.
Like the sound of these LCD replacement arcade monitors, just need the info. Bet they're expensive!
Looks like it's goinng to have to be a 20" for the time being. There will be space in the cab to upgrade to a bigger one if they become available I guess.
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Just wondering, but do they make 4:3 HDTV's? I'm 99% sure they don't, but that would be cheaper than an LCD computer monitor and if you get the right one with an RGB input would work just as well.
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There are some 27" 4:3 CRT HDTV's out there. Just search via google. Here's one:
http://www.megahanson.com/product_info.php?products_id=424128
Of course, these are nowhere near as slim as an LCD.
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All the Lindberghs and the likes go for 16:9 1366x768 pixel TV's. Doubt anybody is going to make 25 inch 4:3's for restauration purposes only. These panel factories work by the 100000's.
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I can't find the link at the moment. Perhaps someone will see it and post the link. It was a 24.8 (I think) drop in replacement for 25 and 27's, but its not out yet. It won't be for restoration only... IT will use them by the thousands for Golden Tee, Silver Strike, etc.
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Yeah I have the 25" Golden Tee monitor/cabinet and was thinking of making into a Mame/Multi Gaming system.
I been on the fence of removing the Arcade Monitor and putting in an LCD. A 4:3 would look more stock but it doesn't seem like it is in the cards. If they are coming out with something new to replace all the Golden Tee and Silver Strike arcades out there. It has to be pretty expensive IMO because they will have to recoupe costs right off the bat.
So it might have to be a 16:9 aspect ratio LCD or I will order the arcade VGA and the JPAC for the Arcade Monitor. Either way it is going to cost about the same if I just bought a 16:9 widescreen 26 inch monitor.
Who knows. The way things are going in the economy I might have to just hold off on all projects for now and wait. uggg :banghead:
Brent
www.extendedplayarcade.com
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I think we'll start seeing arcade LCD's soon. Somebody linked a page with one made to replace 25" CRT's by Happ or Betson (can't remember which). Thing with them is they're going to be very spendy.
All the Lindberghs and the likes go for 16:9 1366x768 pixel TV's. Doubt anybody is going to make 25 inch 4:3's for restauration purposes only. These panel factories work by the 100000's.
I can't find the link at the moment. Perhaps someone will see it and post the link. It was a 24.8 (I think) drop in replacement for 25 and 27's, but its not out yet. It won't be for restoration only... IT will use them by the thousands for Golden Tee, Silver Strike, etc.
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There are some 27" 4:3 CRT HDTV's out there. Just search via google. Here's one:
http://www.megahanson.com/product_info.php?products_id=424128
Of course, these are nowhere near as slim as an LCD.
This is an interesting looking set, but does anyone have one and know for sure if it will work with a PC?
From the manual:
(HDMI/DVI connection to a computer is not possible.
This TV cannot be used as a Monitor with your PC.)
A few years back my brother got a killer deal on a 30" CRT HDTV with a DVI input and we tried everything to get it to work with his PC as a monitor... even tried using PowerStrip and nothing would work. I could get an image up but it was really wonky and useless.
I'd love to go this route too and at $298 it's a killer deal IF it works with a PC. If not, I guess it's a nice set for your bedroom.
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If you ever find one, let me know...
I'd pay up to 3k for a 32"-34" 4:3 LCD for my showcase cabinet.
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There are some 27" 4:3 CRT HDTV's out there. Just search via google. Here's one:
http://www.megahanson.com/product_info.php?products_id=424128
Of course, these are nowhere near as slim as an LCD.
This is an interesting looking set, but does anyone have one and know for sure if it will work with a PC?
metahacker used one in his cab, even decased it an all .. heaps pf photo's on his post ..
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=72753.0
Runs some decent resolutions as well
"all games run in mostly 640x480 .. GameEx uses 800x600 .. and pinball uses 102x768 to keep the scoreboard to playfield visual real estate ratio in check."
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That doesn't appear to be the same set... it's a Samsung but looks like it's just a regular TV with component input and not the 4:3 HDTV listed in the other link.
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Converting computer DVI to HDMI can be a hit and miss affair. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Your best bet for using this television is to buy a graphics card that has an HDMI port. It should work as I've hooked up computer to televisions numerous times where the television says it can't be used as a monitor. HDMI to HDMI is the way to go. Of course, I can't guarantee that there won't be problems.
I forgot to mention that the reason DVI to HDMI is so hit and miss is because there are different types of DVI ports. Here's a link that explains some of the differences.
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/dvi-cables.html
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I beleive Pentranic, do a 23" multi sync LCD screen, try emailing harry and ask him
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According to the thread below, Billabs does a 26" LCD.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=84315.0
I'd give them a call at 1.770.840.0084.
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I think we'll start seeing arcade LCD's soon. Somebody linked a page with one made to replace 25" CRT's by Happ or Betson (can't remember which). Thing with them is they're going to be very spendy.
All the Lindberghs and the likes go for 16:9 1366x768 pixel TV's. Doubt anybody is going to make 25 inch 4:3's for restauration purposes only. These panel factories work by the 100000's.
I can't find the link at the moment. Perhaps someone will see it and post the link. It was a 24.8 (I think) drop in replacement for 25 and 27's, but its not out yet. It won't be for restoration only... IT will use them by the thousands for Golden Tee, Silver Strike, etc.
Yeah, me. Billabs. Um....yeah.
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Thats it, thank you... I was thinking it was Betson instead of Billabs. :cheers:
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By the way, I don't think Billabs is exclusive in having these.
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Did anybody ask Billabs yet?
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I haven't, but I'm thinking of contacting Billabs on Monday - to confirm my suspicion that you all misunderstood their clear-as-mud message.
First off, their model numbers generally start with "BL", then the display size in inches, and then "L" for LCD or "C" for CRT. You'll notice that "BL26C0T" has a C as the 5th letter.
Secondly, I've never heard of any LCD panel manufacturer making anything larger than 21/21.3/21.6" panels. I doubt it will ever happen.
Finally, there's nothing to stop them from selling a 26" widescreen LCD to install in your Golden Tee's, etc. Sure it would be weird, but maybe they're counting on the display to "pillarbox" the signal, or distort it to fit.
Of course, I would be happy to be proven wrong.
PS. Hey gang.
- Stiletto
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First off, their model numbers generally start with "BL", then the display size in inches, and then "L" for LCD or "C" for CRT. You'll notice that "BL26C0T" has a C as the 5th letter.
Secondly, I've never heard of any LCD panel manufacturer making anything larger than 21/21.3/21.6" panels. I doubt it will ever happen.
Finally, there's nothing to stop them from selling a 26" widescreen LCD to install in your Golden Tee's, etc. Sure it would be weird, but maybe they're counting on the display to "pillarbox" the signal, or distort it to fit.
I don't get that middle part. You mean PC-type?...whereas a '26" widescreen' is a TV?
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First off, their model numbers generally start with "BL", then the display size in inches, and then "L" for LCD or "C" for CRT. You'll notice that "BL26C0T" has a C as the 5th letter.
Secondly, I've never heard of any LCD panel manufacturer making anything larger than 21/21.3/21.6" panels. I doubt it will ever happen.
Finally, there's nothing to stop them from selling a 26" widescreen LCD to install in your Golden Tee's, etc. Sure it would be weird, but maybe they're counting on the display to "pillarbox" the signal, or distort it to fit.
I don't get that middle part. You mean PC-type?...whereas a '26" widescreen' is a TV?
I think he's talking about only 4:3 .
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I'm looking for a 4:3 LCD now as well...you'd think a 20" wouldn't be insanely expensive...but it is :).
19" can be had for ~150-175, but 20" shoot up to the well over $250 range.
Debating just getting a 19...not sure how much the extra inch will matter. ;)
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The extra inch will matter in a sense that you move from 5:4 to real 4:3. 19 inchers are never 4:3 with their 1280x1024 resolutions. 20 and 21 inch on the other hand is 1600x1200 and real 4:3
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I'm compromising and putting a 25.5" LCD computer monitor in my cab. It's got a 16:10 aspect ratio, unlike HDTV's which have a 16:9 aspect ratio. I think when I measured it, it was like playing games on a 23" 4:3 monitor when you use sidebars (unstretched). That's pretty close to the 24.8" standard arcade monitor I was planning on using.
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I don't get that middle part. You mean PC-type?...whereas a '26" widescreen' is a TV?
Yes, this thread is about large 4:3 panels.
I've contacted Billabs (in Georgia) by phone, they will be sending me information about the Billabs BL26C0T you mentioned in this thread:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=84315.0
I was able to get the price - $595.00 USD presuming I heard it right (the connection was bad)
[EDIT] Looking at the site more, I'm going to guess that it's a 19"-21" 4:3 LCD panel with a huge bezel around it so that it will mount properly in a cabinet designed to take 25"-27" CRTs. We'll see.
- Stiletto
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Shesus. I can't seem to even find a 20" 4:3 LCD for under $360, which is a bit insane I must say...
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Let's keep in mind:
if people are really desperate for a large 4:3 display, cut holes in the side of the cabinet and build boxes to mask the edges of a 16:9 widescreen LCD monitor. With your typical 2560x1600 30-inch widescreen LCD, you should be able to get a 4:3 diagonal of 26.5" at a resolution of 2133x1600 (almost 4:3). Or build the cabinet to fit a widescreen LCD, and then mask the edges.
- Stiletto
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Yep, that was my thinking when I decided to go with the 25.5". The width was just a hair under 24" so it was a perfect fit for my Dynamo cabinet.
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Here's something weird:
Sharp makes a LCD panel designed for Air Traffic Control. It's not 4:3, it's actually 1:1 with a native resolution of 2048x2048.
http://www.sharpsma.com/Page.aspx/americas/en/part/LQ281L1LW14/
And the response rate is 25ms so it's not designed for gaming - but the size: 28.05-inch is massive! :)
Also: Sharp has a massive 28.3" LCD Panel, again designed for industrial use. PN is LQ283G1TW11. It's 5:4, not 4:3, and has a native resolution of 2560x2048 (2x 1280x1024!) but... viewing angle is small (170deg/170deg), brightness is low (225 nits), contrast ratio is low (400:1) and response rate is 25ms...
For both of these, pricing is approx. $1000 or more per diagonal inch. Yeah, that's right.
- Stiletto
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Hehe. I can see it now, forget CP based wings...now it's widescreen LCD wings!
Honestly, if I could fit a decent size widescreen into my cab, going that route might be worthwhile. As it is, I don't think it's possible...although the potential for the LCD dying eventually and me not being able to replace it (even a 19" or 20" 4:3) is worrisome.
I'm retrofitting an older cab, so I only have 24" of internal space to work with, best case....(just checked dimensions of a 24" monitor, and they seem to come in a tad under 24 even with bezel, at around 22 3/4" wide).
Did some quick calculations, and if I'm right, it seems that these should be the dimensions.
24in 16:10 - 12.7 x 20.35
22in 16:10 - 11.65 x 18.65
20in 4:3 - 12 x 16
19in 5:4 - 11.84 x 14.8
19in 4:3 - 11.4 x 15.2 (don't exist as far as I can find).
So. With a 22 inch WS monitor, your basically losing height over both the 19" and the 20" monitors that are actually available, though it should be under half an inch. For that, you'd basically have a setup (mounting, etc.) that could easily have the monitor swapped out in the case of a failure or problem. With a 24" monitor (which some are available for cheaper than a 20" 4:3's are now....), you'd beat out both the 19 and the 20 'standard' res monitors. Interesting.
I have some hard thinking to do about what I'm going to use in my cab now...and possibly may bring my desktop 22" monitor down to the cab to see how it looks reflected in the cabs mirror...
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Note that with LCDs, if you're planning to rotate the screen, make SURE it's a S-IPS (pref.) or PVA panel. TN panels tend to have shorter viewing angles in general, and specifically much shorter vertical angles. Rotating 90-degrees turns this into the horizontal angle, which is (broadly) judged to be more important.
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Hehe. I can see it now, forget CP based wings...now it's widescreen LCD wings!
Honestly, if I could fit a decent size widescreen into my cab, going that route might be worthwhile. As it is, I don't think it's possible...although the potential for the LCD dying eventually and me not being able to replace it (even a 19" or 20" 4:3) is worrisome.
I'm retrofitting an older cab, so I only have 24" of internal space to work with, best case....(just checked dimensions of a 24" monitor, and they seem to come in a tad under 24 even with bezel, at around 22 3/4" wide).
Did some quick calculations, and if I'm right, it seems that these should be the dimensions.
24in 16:10 - 12.7 x 20.35
22in 16:10 - 11.65 x 18.65
20in 4:3 - 12 x 16
19in 5:4 - 11.84 x 14.8
19in 4:3 - 11.4 x 15.2 (don't exist as far as I can find).
So. With a 22 inch WS monitor, your basically losing height over both the 19" and the 20" monitors that are actually available, though it should be under half an inch. For that, you'd basically have a setup (mounting, etc.) that could easily have the monitor swapped out in the case of a failure or problem. With a 24" monitor (which some are available for cheaper than a 20" 4:3's are now....), you'd beat out both the 19 and the 20 'standard' res monitors. Interesting.
I have some hard thinking to do about what I'm going to use in my cab now...and possibly may bring my desktop 22" monitor down to the cab to see how it looks reflected in the cabs mirror...
A 25.5" 16:10 LCD monitor should come in right at or under 24" wide. The Samsung I am planning on using is 23.54" wide. Here's a link.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3574524&CatId=3774
When I did the computations, this monitor would be the equivalent of around a 23" 4:3 monitor. Not bad IMO.
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I want the MAME team to go dual-game-mode!
So that we can incorporate 16:10 displays, and play 2 vertical 1 person classics side by side, or the 2-player landscape games with black bars on the left/right on cabinets with a dual-player control panel. That way 16:10 would give clear benefits.
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A 25.5" 16:10 LCD monitor should come in right at or under 24" wide. The Samsung I am planning on using is 23.54" wide. Here's a link.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3574524&CatId=3774
When I did the computations, this monitor would be the equivalent of around a 23" 4:3 monitor. Not bad IMO.
The screen size will actually be 21.62" wide, 13.5" high. Overall monitor size would prob. be around there I would think.
Also, if you haven't ordered yet, I would really think twice about TigerDirect. Check out their reseller ratings and all...the company has a very bad reputation.
Now, time to decide if a 16ms LCD is reasonable for MAME or not.
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A 25.5" 16:10 LCD monitor should come in right at or under 24" wide. The Samsung I am planning on using is 23.54" wide. Here's a link.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3574524&CatId=3774
When I did the computations, this monitor would be the equivalent of around a 23" 4:3 monitor. Not bad IMO.
The screen size will actually be 21.62" wide, 13.5" high. Overall monitor size would prob. be around there I would think.
Also, if you haven't ordered yet, I would really think twice about TigerDirect. Check out their reseller ratings and all...the company has a very bad reputation.
Yep, not using Tiger Direct. I was just using the link to show the model of monitor.
I was using the width measurement that included the case. I'm not planning on de-casing mine. If you decide to de-case, you may be able to get a bigger LCD monitor. I wonder what the measurements of a 28" 16:10 LCD monitor would be without the case.
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Also, if you haven't ordered yet, I would really think twice about TigerDirect. Check out their reseller ratings and all...the company has a very bad reputation.
Is this something recent with Tiger? I've ordered from them a lot in the past and was getting ready to order a few things. I never had a problem with them, but it has been a little over a year since my last order... lots can change in a year I guess.
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Dell is having a sale on the E248WFP - 16:10 24". You can get it for ~$300 with tax (it's their 10 day of deals thing).
Leaning towards ordering it...would be perfect and the bezel glass of the Omega Race I'm working with would actually work really well to conceal the sides of the monitor already.
Re: TD. I've heard many a horror story on deal sites...so...I've never ordered from them. Their recent reseller ratings actually seem decent, but I wouldn't order anything from them that involved a rebate they were offering themselves or something of that ilk. If the price is right, I guess it's worth a risk if it's a known risk.
I also just did the calculations based on a monitor I know has a small bezel (acers) and the actual diagonals end up being over 24" on 22" monitors (the 24"s are a given I'd think). So rotation is completely out on a WS monitor in a 24" cab...unless someone has already done it :)
One option to consider also (that I just used) - try to find a Buy It Now monitor for cheap on Ebay, then use the live.com 30% discount, and you can get some really good deals. I just managed to snag a 20" LCD (8ms) for 130$ with a guarantee of no dead or stuck pixels.
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The extra inch will matter in a sense that you move from 5:4 to real 4:3. 19 inchers are never 4:3 with their 1280x1024 resolutions. 20 and 21 inch on the other hand is 1600x1200 and real 4:3
Not necessarily. It depends on the native resolution of the monitor. Two 21" CRTs I have are native XGA, hence 5:4.
I wouldn't block off a monitor. As I'd likely use it for viewing other things, I'd leave it as is and size Mame accordingly with spaces. Could be worse.
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Two 21" CRTs I have are native XGA, hence 5:4.
Who talks about CRT in this LCD topic?
CRT monitors were all 4:3 (except one weird Sony)
But I still have to see the first 4:3 LCD at 19 inch.
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Two 21" CRTs I have are native XGA, hence 5:4.
Who talks about CRT in this LCD topic?
CRT monitors were all 4:3 (except one weird Sony)
But I still have to see the first 4:3 LCD at 19 inch.
No, there were a (very) few 5:4 CRT PC monitors. There was a cheep 19" at an old work that my boss liked running at 800x600, but complained about the images being "stretched". (IIRC that '19 inches' was viewable size, so 20"-21" tube size.) I've seen stats of an arcade CRT whose physical dimensions seemed to be closer to 3:2 instead of 4:3 (1.5 vs 1.333), and 16:10 = 1.6) for IIRC a vertical shooter, but can't find the link.
There were 17" & 20" LCDs at 5:4, too, but now almost all 5:4 LCDs are 19". AFAIK, all 19" LCDs were 5:4 (or, now more often, widescreen).
Sure, widescreen is great for movies, spreadsheets and horizontal PC games (driving, FPS), but 4:3 or 3:4 are sometimes better. Coding, writing for printed paper, reading book-ish stuff, editing portrait photos, etc. And since a widescreen has less screen area vs a 5:4 or 4:3, widescreen is cheaper to manufacture (for example 19": 5:4 area = 176 sq in, 4:3 = 173.25 sq in, 16:10 = 162.25 sq in).
With the hype, the move to LCDs, the cheaper to make, HDTV, and economies of scale, widescreen is going to be the only option soon. :(
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Hello everyone.
I wanted to "rekindle" this thread to see if anyone had any luck finding an LCD CLOSE to 4:3 since it seems that we have been invaded with widescreens.
My understanding is that the Samsung 2693 would be ideal since its 18 inches in height (sacrificing 6 inches). I have a 25 inch cabinet with a crappy TV and blurred images. I'm DYING to replace it. I'm thinking that Ms.pacman will look horrible on this either way. (FYI, ms.pacman is for the wife)
Thanks.
Dedos
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I'm thinking that Ms.pacman will look horrible on this either way. (FYI, ms.pacman is for the wife)
Ms Pac-man is awesome. There's no reason to justify having it.
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I'm thinking that Ms.pacman will look horrible on this either way. (FYI, ms.pacman is for the wife)
Ms Pac-man is awesome. There's no reason to justify having it.
That exactly what I was thinking when I read that.
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dedos: Check out javeryh's Bella's Arcade http://bellasarcade.blogspot.com/
Most of us guys think it's awesome.
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Planar has the p212m, it's a 21.3 4:3 ratio LCD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824016049 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824016049)
At newegg it's pricey, but I've found instances of them going for around 200-300$.
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I'm certainly envious of that little girl.
Thanks for the replies.
drventure, thanks for the link. you are right, it IS pricey but definitely good enough to seek it on the net for cheaper.
What does everyone think about this model?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=24-155-056-03.jpg&Image=24-155-056-03.jpg%2c24-155-056-11.jpg%2c24-155-056-04.jpg%2c24-155-056-08.jpg%2c24-155-056-06.jpg%2c24-155-056-07.jpg%2c24-155-056-09.jpg%2c24-155-056-10.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Item=N82E16824155056&Depa=1&Description=KDS%20K-2626mdhwb%20Black%2026%22%205ms%20Widescreen%20LCD%20Monitor%20Built%20in%20Speakers (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=24-155-056-03.jpg&Image=24-155-056-03.jpg%2c24-155-056-11.jpg%2c24-155-056-04.jpg%2c24-155-056-08.jpg%2c24-155-056-06.jpg%2c24-155-056-07.jpg%2c24-155-056-09.jpg%2c24-155-056-10.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Item=N82E16824155056&Depa=1&Description=KDS%20K-2626mdhwb%20Black%2026%22%205ms%20Widescreen%20LCD%20Monitor%20Built%20in%20Speakers)
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Boy that just chaps me.
Take a look at the user comments on newegg about dead pixels.
One dead pix would annoy the hell out of me, but it's considered "OK" by most companies and they won't take it back :angry:
I tend to buy LCD's off craigslist for the sole reason that I can check out the monitor before buying it.
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Let's keep in mind:
if people are really desperate for a large 4:3 display, cut holes in the side of the cabinet and build boxes to mask the edges of a 16:9 widescreen LCD monitor. With your typical 2560x1600 30-inch widescreen LCD, you should be able to get a 4:3 diagonal of 26.5" at a resolution of 2133x1600 (almost 4:3). Or build the cabinet to fit a widescreen LCD, and then mask the edges.
- Stiletto
I don't understand why you would waste a large screen like that. Turn it sideways and use the extra half of the screen for a digital marquee. You could even build a frame to make it look like a separate piece.
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it sideways and use the extra half of the screen for a digital marquee.
You could be onto something! Why not use the bottom of the screen as an instruction panel for each game and the top to show the marquee or even have scrolling text or something?
Is that even possible to split the screen up like that? Because if it is that would look pretty crazy!
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it sideways and use the extra half of the screen for a digital marquee.
You could be onto something! Why not use the bottom of the screen as an instruction panel for each game and the top to show the marquee or even have scrolling text or something?
Is that even possible to split the screen up like that? Because if it is that would look pretty crazy!
I want to say Randy or someone here already did this. I know I saw it a while back.
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it sideways and use the extra half of the screen for a digital marquee.
You could be onto something! Why not use the bottom of the screen as an instruction panel for each game and the top to show the marquee or even have scrolling text or something?
Is that even possible to split the screen up like that? Because if it is that would look pretty crazy!
I want to say Randy or someone here already did this. I know I saw it a while back.
yep it was randy, the thread was called how to throw even more money at a defender cab or something like that
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http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=70840.0
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I know, but splitting it into 3? I suppose if it is possible with 2 it must be the same with 3.
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Planar has the p212m, it's a 21.3 4:3 ratio LCD
At newegg it's pricey, but I've found instances of them going for around 200-300$.
21.3 inch panels are either yesteryears best SPVA or SIPS panels used for top of the line pro graphic panels. They can never be had around 200-300$ or it must be second hand. The Samsung 214T is one of the cheapest with that panel, and even today still around 600$.
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214T $240 USD
http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40889781&source=EWBBASE&cm_mmc=CSE-_-google-_-ewbbase-_-Monitors&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=40889781 (http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40889781&source=EWBBASE&cm_mmc=CSE-_-google-_-ewbbase-_-Monitors&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=40889781)
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Good deal! Sad it's not for Europe and even sadder Samsung never shipped the black ones to europe.
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Hey. Guess what I found at a local resort. Not great photos, but the lighting was dim in the corridor where this was, and I was using my phone. This baby was at least 30 inches diagonal.
....I dunno...then again, going by the size of the handsets below, maybe this was about 50 inches.
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Hey. Guess what I found at a local resort. Not great photos, but the lighting was dim in the corridor where this was, and I was using my phone. This baby was at least 30 inches diagonal.
....I dunno...then again, going by the size of the handsets below, maybe this was about 50 inches.
Wow nice pics. It's really too bad I gave up and settled on widescreen. That's a beauty. I wonder what the brand/specs are of it.
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Interesting, but without any model number/manufacturer/etc., this serves as little more than a "don't give up cause it's out there". It is encouraging, but not much else. :dunno
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They probably paid tons of money for that. I called a company last year that makes custom LCD's and for like a 24" 4:3 he told me it would cost me at least $2,400. :o
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Ahhh, yeah, I didn't really think about that. Probably because it was kinda dark in there, and I had my mind on some other things. But you could always canvas the local resorts, casinos, etc and see what they got, where from, and whether they're surplusing anything.