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Title: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Rama on August 25, 2008, 04:46:55 pm
Hi guys,
I'm a working on a project, using an old empty cabinet to build a (partly) custom arcade.
This is my first time setting up a control panel from scratch, I think I kinda pinned down the parts I want but I have some questions. Maybe you could help?

Can anyone tell me the difference between Happ standard (http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/5891xxl.htm) (not ultimate) and competition (http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/5896xxl.htm) buttons?
Standard buttons seem to be slightly more expensive for some reason.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: massive88 on August 25, 2008, 04:56:00 pm
Concave/Convex is one difference, dunno if its the only one or not.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Turnarcades on August 25, 2008, 05:18:28 pm
Could be they're just charging more for the most popular option, as I imagine most people prefer these. I never have liked those Jap-style convex buttons, although they claimed to help speedy response in fighting games.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Axe on August 25, 2008, 07:02:34 pm
Concave/Convex is one difference, dunno if its the only one or not.

as far as i have read, it's the only difference... i am all about the concave buttons myself, the convex ones feel wierd....
 :o
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on August 26, 2008, 12:50:15 pm
Just to clarify:

Standard buttons are Concave and look like this:
(http://www.gamesx.com/stick/button.jpg)

Competition buttons are Convex and look like this:
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/389352784_006751dc6c.jpg)
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: davidrfoley on August 26, 2008, 01:39:25 pm
shape of the button top is the only difference.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on August 26, 2008, 02:03:56 pm
Well, the way they feel though makes a huge difference. I hate convex.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Rama on August 26, 2008, 04:56:28 pm
Wasn't really sure that was the only difference.
Since its mostly out of taste I guess I'll go with the competition ones.
Gotta get to work now.

Thanks alot guys!
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Jack Burton on August 26, 2008, 05:07:59 pm
Competitons are preferred because the convex shape makes it easer to move your fingertips from button to button.  Also helps when you are sliding you hand over the buttons rapidly whenever you are mashing supers in fighting games.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on August 26, 2008, 05:16:54 pm
Competitons are preferred because the convex shape makes it easer to move your fingertips from button to button.  Also helps when you are sliding you hand over the buttons rapidly whenever you are mashing supers in fighting games.

Watch out making blanket statements like that. You don't realize where you are.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: MrMojoZ on August 27, 2008, 10:29:28 am
Watch out making blanket statements like that. You don't realize where you are.

He explained why people WOULD prefer convex, not that everyone DID. He is also correct, concave are used for nostalgic purposes which is great if that's what you are shooting for.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on August 27, 2008, 10:50:23 am
The statement "Competitons are preferred" made it sound (to me) like "by the mass public".
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: MrMojoZ on August 27, 2008, 11:05:04 am
You could read it both ways.

I believe the ratio of people who would prefer convex over concave is increasing though, most of todays gamers grew up playing on consoles afterall. I know I grew up playing concave but prefer convex now after trying both.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on August 27, 2008, 11:18:04 am
Maybe I should try playing on some good convex buttons. I think my problem is I've only played on crappy ones.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: robstraws on August 27, 2008, 11:27:04 am
I have an arcade stick for PS2 that has the convex buttons and it really throws off my game compared to the normal buttons in the arcade.  Not a fan of the competitions.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: massive88 on August 27, 2008, 11:33:23 am
Maybe I should try playing on some good convex buttons. I think my problem is I've only played on crappy ones.

Try some Seimitsu PS-14-GNs (http://www.lizardlickamusements.com/pages/pushbuttons.shtml)  I really liked them over my happs for fighting games/shmups.
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on August 27, 2008, 11:45:38 am
I've looked at those, but I'm a wood panel guy. (Not by choice) Plus, I like my concaves. (Just switched back from the Ultralux buttons)
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: massive88 on August 27, 2008, 11:47:16 am
They work great in wood.  Along with a router! (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=66008.msg677527#msg677527)
Title: Re: Happ Standard and Competition buttons. What's the difference?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on August 27, 2008, 11:51:36 am
meh.