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Main => Everything Else => Topic started by: DaOld Man on January 13, 2008, 05:58:33 am
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New made for TV series airs tonight. (I think its on FOX at 7:00 pm Central.)
I wonder if it will be a sad production, or live up to the Terminator movie series?
Edited to add link a website about it.
Link (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851851/)
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From what I've seen on the previews, john and his mother will be befriended by a teenage female terminator who, just like arnie in T2 has a strange emotional attachment to them. The bad guy terminator is also quite young but a guy, who btw isn't big and muscular like arnie, or cold and sinister looking like the t-1000 and thus comes off looking like a tool. Now on top of all of this, these terminators, which by all reports have SUPERIOR powers and blend in better arrive between t2 and t3? So your telling me after those all those failed attempts which will amount to the entire series by the time we get to t3 time they send an inferior female terminator and the resistance only manages to get ahold of the, at that point, ancient t-250 model?
Keep in mind I realize that time-travel isn't linear so they can do stuff like that, but it never stopped the writers of the films from thinking in such a limited linear style. I mean, if it were me, after the first failed attempt (terminator 1) would have sent a terminator back to when Sarah Connor was a child, or better yet an infant. While Sarah and her son ae decidedly special and able to fight back, there isn't any indication that her parents are. Even if a good terminator would have been sent to fight back, it's a lot harder to protect an aging couple with a defensless child in tow.
It'll be about as good as the blade tv series nobody watched. (Which is not very good at all.)
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I have asked those same questions about going back farther in time to kill Sarah's ancestors.
The first movie sorta led you to think that they only got one shot at the time travel (well two, since arnie and Reese both came through. Remember when reese was being interrogated he told them the resistance blew up the time machine after he went through (I think.) Second movie blew that idea out of the water.)
But also, I think it was mentioned that skynet had limited information about Sarah. It had no record of her before the first movie. (Remember Arnie had to look up her address in the phone book, and started by killing all the listed sarah conners.)
This could explain why they didnt time travel back to sarah's parents or grandparents.
Anyway, I have followed the terminator movies since the first. I will watch the series preview tonight, God willing.
I sure hope it's not a bomb, like the Blade series, man that did suck hind *it, didnt it?
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Really? I didnt know that. :banghead:
Oh well, might as well watch it on the 52" screen tonight.
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. . . it's a lot harder to protect an aging couple with a defensless child in tow.
Or maybe Sarah would have just grown up with a lightning bolt-shaped scar on her forehead.
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We shouldn't start down the Harry Potter road, there's a size limit to how much I can type and I don't think I could handle the resulting rage without being severely medicated. ;)
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We shouldn't start down the Harry Potter road, there's a size limit to how much I can type and I don't think I could handle the resulting rage without being severely medicated. ;)
Are you still mad because your friends stopped playing Dungeons & Dragons with you once the Harry Potter books came out?
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Is it just me, or does Sarah llok like she is about 5 years older than John?
Jouster
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Are there no attractive actresses left in Hollywood? First the Bionic Woman was an unattractive cow and now both actresses in the Sarah Connor Chronicles are below average. WTF?
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Are there no attractive actresses left in Hollywood? First the Bionic Woman was an unattractive cow and now both actresses in the Sarah Connor Chronicles are below average. WTF?
Bite your tongue. Summer is teh hawtness.
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Sarah does look to young for the part.
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But so far I like this telling of the story.
And to top it off, Family Guy is on now! (Frickin' sweet!)
I do like this show of terminator...
Cant wait until tomorrow night for part 2..
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I just looked up Sarahs age on imdb and she is 34, which means she's a little young for the part, but not by much. I didn't recognize her in the show, but she's been in quite a few movies before this. The biggest movie she was in was as the wife/queen in 300.
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Are there no attractive actresses left in Hollywood? First the Bionic Woman was an unattractive cow and now both actresses in the Sarah Connor Chronicles are below average. WTF?
I thought River from FireFly looked "oddly sexy" in Serenity.
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Oops... sorry... :dizzy:
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We shouldn't start down the Harry Potter road, there's a size limit to how much I can type and I don't think I could handle the resulting rage without being severely medicated. ;)
Are you still mad because your friends stopped playing Dungeons & Dragons with you once the Harry Potter books came out?
Sorry, I'm a geek, not a nerd. Firstly I'm not old enough to have played D&D (born in 79) and secondly I was too busy with friends and some resembalance to a life to play something so involved. It's the same reason I avoid MMRPGS like the plague.
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We shouldn't start down the Harry Potter road, there's a size limit to how much I can type and I don't think I could handle the resulting rage without being severely medicated. ;)
Are you still mad because your friends stopped playing Dungeons & Dragons with you once the Harry Potter books came out?
Sorry, I'm a geek, not a nerd. Firstly I'm not old enough to have played D&D (born in 79) and secondly I was too busy with friends and some resembalance to a life to play something so involved. It's the same reason I avoid MMRPGS like the plague.
Wait for the harry potter mmorpg mmorpg. Its about hogwarts playing WoW after they get a t1 internet connection. apparently harry will fight he who must not be named (because i cant spell his name) in WoW for the fate of all the WoW players.
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I thought the show was respectable, but some things did seem off. The actress playing Sarah Connor just seemed too young in comparison to her role. The people who played the part of the Dysons looked perfect in terms of age since Terminator 2. But I think Sarah Connor was too young and didn't look "beat up" like Linda Hamilton did after the years in the Pennitentiary and fighting off of the Terminators.
I'm not going to say the show is 'crappy' right away, but I'm not giving it too many props yet. I see a lot of potential here, but I also see a lot of stuff that just doesn't make sense. (The substitute teacher and following scenes, are an example).
I still thought the chick playing the female terminator was kind of hot and it would be nice to see more of her "goods". ;) ;D
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Wait how did they travel in time and why in the first ep? I missed that part but got back when they were standing in traffic.
Actually im kinda disappointed they didnt show the future war scene like in all the movies before the ep started.
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Are there no attractive actresses left in Hollywood? First the Bionic Woman was an unattractive cow and now both actresses in the Sarah Connor Chronicles are below average. WTF?
I think BW - Michelle Ryan - is very pretty...and her little sister in that show has a young Denise Richards look...which I also like. The girl Terminator isn't bad looking...she isn't really programmed to smile too much I guess.
And I agree that Sarah just doesn't look the part...I've already said she looks too young...but now I think she also looks to "soft"...Linda Hamilton had some serious workout going on and was in much better shape. I guess this takes place after T2...after Sarah had a chance to sit back and suck down some Bon Bons as a celebration?
Jouster
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I guess I'll be the resident idiot for this post, but my wife and I thought it was fantastic. Perhaps it is just that we don't get into comparing ages, etc. in relation to the look of Hamilton's Sarah vs. the new lady. (edit) We love Sci-Fi and we found this to be a wonderful hearty dose of it.
What I was most pleased with was that they didn't tone done the suspense or action a great deal for TV....my greatest fear was that they would "talk us to death" instead of actually doing anything... as per the V television series that aired after the two mini-series. V, the series failed because they lost all the special effects, including the wierd voice manipulation, and the storyline just went to hell with the earthman (played by Nathan Lane) making a "deal" with the visitors.
I really didn't want to see that happen to the Terminator series....personally I thought it was a good pickup from the end of T3 (by what I recall of it). Those complaining about the Terminator robot might want to go back and look at the date -the time period last night for most of the show was 1999. We have YET to see the look of the robots for 2007, with the exception of the protective one. Would that have changed the type of Terminator?
Anyway, I hope it had a good showing and is around for a while. There sure isn't anything else worth a cuss playing with this writer's strike going on.
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Second episode was fantastic!
The differences between this version and T3 are starting to make sense.
And the girl terminator (tin man as sarah calls her) is starting to take on a human like personality.
Sithmaster, sending you a pm about the time travel thing.
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I just looked up Sarahs age on imdb and she is 34, which means she's a little young for the part, but not by much. I didn't recognize her in the show, but she's been in quite a few movies before this. The biggest movie she was in was as the wife/queen in 300.
I just watched the first episode and the police report says that Sarah is 33. The actor playing John Conner is 20 years old. Guess the kid is a tad old for his character.
It's not as bad as in That '70s Show where the actors who play the kids are 30 years old or older.
I didn't think the first episode was terribly exciting.
I didn't understand why they keep doing these high profile things while they are trying to stay hidden ("rob" a bank with no masks, appear in the middle of a highway buttnaked and just stand there while they are being taped). Besides, something from the future would have police reports and thus would know where all the attacks take place. So every time they fight something from the future would know where they are and potentiall get there ahead of time. Ah well, when time travel is involved I guess anything goes.
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I just looked up Sarahs age on imdb and she is 34, which means she's a little young for the part, but not by much. I didn't recognize her in the show, but she's been in quite a few movies before this. The biggest movie she was in was as the wife/queen in 300.
I just watched the first episode and the police report says that Sarah is 33. The actor playing John Conner is 20 years old. Guess the kid is a tad old for his character.
Really, she's only supposed to be 33? I figured the kid was supposed to be at least 16, and if she's 33 then she would of had him at 17, which means she would of been 16 or 17 in the first terminator movie, and that doesn't make sense because she was at least in her early twenties in that movie. Thats why I figured she was just a little young for the part. Whatever, if I can suspend disbelief about killer robots from the future, then minor age discrepancies shouldn't be a problem :)
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I've got to admit, after actually seeing it I rather enjoyed it. I actually preferred the pilot (which had a major t2 vibe) to the second episode. I honestly wonder how they are going to keep this going into a whole series though. Unless terminators are sent in left and right I just don't see how they are going to have anything to fight after a few episodes.
There were a couple of things that bugged me though. First off, the teminator that got blew up in the pilot just magically flys back together? That's total b.s! If that trick worked then there wouldn't have been a t2 as the original terminator would have just snapped his legs back on and killed Sarah!. And after that he just goes around with clothes on and nobody notices? They are in L.A.! How can a man wearing ski goggles and a face mask in L.A. even amoung homeless people not stand out like a sore thumb? Also it seems extremely unlikely that they could build a time machine with 1960's parts. Unless the key to time-travel turns out to be vaccuum tubes and reel to reel computers. It also bothered me that their long time smuggling buddy would just sell them out like that. He must be a real ass, because from what I understand John basically grew up around him.
I also like the guy who plays John this time around. He seems alot more like the t2 actor and a lot less like the t3 actor (thankfully). The woman who plays sarah I could do without. She's not even a poor man's linda hamilton. Thankfully, even though she's the official lead, this seems to be more of an ensemble cast. Also summer is in it. Thank god for summer. Me loves me some summer. My obsession with Summer Glau borders on peale's obsession with Michelle Trachtenberg. I've gotta say you really don't get to see her grow as an actor though. She went from psycho genius killing machine to mildy retarded killing machine. That's type-casting if I've ever seen it. Thankfully though, she is very attractive. I have to watch the show now even if it stinks. :)
Anyway, I really wish they would have marketed this better. I'm seldom off the mark on if a show is crap or not based on the previews alone and this one threw me for a loop. The previews had far too many close-ups of the new male termintor and the new sarah, which made you think "lame cash-in" and not enough shots of action and/or actual acting ability. So anyone who was thrown off by it please go watch it as it's great! Actually watch it even if you hate it, because this is a new fox series so we'll be lucky if 15 epiodes are produced before they can it. ;)
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Anyway, I really wish they would have marketed this better. I'm seldom off the mark on if a show is crap or not based on the previews alone and this one threw me for a loop. The previews had far too many close-ups of the new male termintor and the new sarah, which made you think "lame cash-in" and not enough shots of action and/or actual acting ability. So anyone who was thrown off by it please go watch it as it's great! Actually watch it even if you hate it, because this is a new fox series so we'll be lucky if 15 epiodes are produced before they can it. ;)
Agreed. I thought the show was going to be horrible, but I decided to give it a chance since nothing else was on. I really surprised at how good the show has been so far, I just hope they keep it as good as it is.
The old terminator coming back to life was pretty dumb, I thought they would make it so the old terminator and the time machine was going to be analyzed by Cyberdyne and was the reason why skynet was still invented, kind of like how the original terminator was the original reason skynet was invented. Oh well, they've done a good job with the rest of the show so lets just see where they go with it.
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I like it, even though there are some discrepancies..
Did anyone catch when the next episode is scheduled to be on??
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I just looked up Sarahs age on imdb and she is 34, which means she's a little young for the part, but not by much. I didn't recognize her in the show, but she's been in quite a few movies before this. The biggest movie she was in was as the wife/queen in 300.
I just watched the first episode and the police report says that Sarah is 33. The actor playing John Conner is 20 years old. Guess the kid is a tad old for his character.
Really, she's only supposed to be 33? I figured the kid was supposed to be at least 16, and if she's 33 then she would of had him at 17, which means she would of been 16 or 17 in the first terminator movie, and that doesn't make sense because she was at least in her early twenties in that movie. Thats why I figured she was just a little young for the part. Whatever, if I can suspend disbelief about killer robots from the future, then minor age discrepancies shouldn't be a problem :)
I looked it up again (somewhere around 12 minutes into my recording)and the funny thing is that the police report does not show a birthdate. Only an age.
The computer that the FBI guy looks up her info:
(http://arcade.laweb.nl/BYOAC/SarahConnor.jpg)
and the display that the Terminator sees:
(http://arcade.laweb.nl/BYOAC/SarahConnor2.jpg)
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The old terminator coming back to life was pretty dumb, I thought they would make it so the old terminator and the time machine was going to be analyzed by Cyberdyne and was the reason why skynet was still invented, kind of like how the original terminator was the original reason skynet was invented. Oh well, they've done a good job with the rest of the show so lets just see where they go with it.
Well I figured that the head would re-active and send out a beacon that attracted the new termintor. That would have, you know, been actually possible and would have made sense compared to what they did. Then he could have uploaded all the data and bam! Old terminator in new body!
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Saw the second part. I have to say it's starting to pick up a little.
Indeed it seems illogical here and there. As far as you can talk about "logical" when you get into the whole timetravel mess. Obviously when a terminator gets ambushed it will record this (ie notify the future bots) and they send a terminator back from the future so that it gets there 15 minutes earlier and ambushes the ambush :P
Why does the resistance manage to send a whole militia back through time, while the evil bots send only a lonely terminator?
Also in "real time" situations it's sometimes illogical though. I was wondering what the use was of the two robots fighting (the fembot and the terminator). These fight scenes are becoming pretty boring. They just slap each other silly and throw each other through walls with no effect at all. To make matters worse, the terminator decides to run away, they all chase the terminator, Sarah throws a bike at his feet and the terminator is taken out. Seriously ::)
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I liked it. Then again, I'm not looking for an interactive immersive space time bending white whole spewing time bit of continuity perfection. I just want to be entertained for 45 minutes.
And I spent much of the second episode watching the female terminator's chest heave.
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And I spent much of the second episode watching the female terminator's chest heave.
They're fake. :)
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They're fake. :)
You say that like it should mean something to me...? TV boobs are TV boobs, my friend.
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Aren't her boobs a bit too small to be fake?
(http://arcade.laweb.nl/BYOAC/SummerGlau1.jpg)
(http://arcade.laweb.nl/BYOAC/SummerGlau2.jpg)
(http://arcade.laweb.nl/BYOAC/SummerGlau3.jpg)
(http://arcade.laweb.nl/BYOAC/SummerGlau4.jpg)
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On a related note... anyone hear that Christian Bale (Batman Begins/The Dark Knight) has been tapped to play John Connor in the T4 movie?
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and that Summer Glau was rumoured to act as Wonder Woman
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In those pics that chick looks like a really young Sigourney Weaver.
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Nah man... Weaver is a mutulated cow, even in her prime, compared to Summer. It's all in the eyes man.
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On a related note... anyone hear that Christian Bale (Batman Begins/The Dark Knight) has been tapped to play John Connor in the T4 movie?
I have heard that...
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I've got a question though...how does the Terminator's head time travel? The three lose their clothes because we all know that only living things can pass through...yet the head makes it through unscathed?
That kinda killed it for me...I understand they did that to fill the part about the present day terminators not knowing what they look like and all, but if in episode 2 they are gonna start breaking their own rules...what's next?
Jouster
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I've got a question though...how does the Terminator's head time travel? The three lose their clothes because we all know that only living things can pass through...yet the head makes it through unscathed?
Yeah that one was bizarre too. I didn't quite get what happened. It looked like it traveled with them. Maybe the nuclear ray gun blast that severed the head somehow pushed it through the time portal :P
Beside how do the robots get through the time portal to begin with? Because they are covered in skin? If so then just stuff a cow full of weapons and send that through. Or hide weapons inside the terminators.
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I might of missed something in the show, but I figured the head (and body) was just lying dormant for all those years and woke up when his objective showed up in his time period again.
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I might of missed something in the show, but I figured the head (and body) was just lying dormant for all those years and woke up when his objective showed up in his time period again.
You did... it bounced through the time portal right after the people came through. That's how it got from a bank vault to the side of the road.
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I might of missed something in the show, but I figured the head (and body) was just lying dormant for all those years and woke up when his objective showed up in his time period again.
You did... it bounced through the time portal right after the people came through. That's how it got from a bank vault to the side of the road.
Huh, that is dumb. I must of gone to the bathroom or something right around then because I don't remember that, I just remember the guy putting the head down on his desk.
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Huh, that is dumb. I must of gone to the bathroom or something right around then because I don't remember that, I just remember the guy putting the head down on his desk.
You missed at least a couple of minutes. He picked it up from the highway median as part of what appeared to be a work release cleanup crew (although he then went to his own home - which didn't make sense).
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OK, I have to ask the most important question for this show.
Is the female Terminator programmed to take orders from John Connor like Arnie did in T2? >:D >:D >:D
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OK, I have to ask the most important question for this show.
Is the female Terminator programmed to take orders from John Connor like Arnie did in T2? >:D >:D >:D
Sarah asked her that - her response was "yes, but not this John Connor".
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I was wondering how the head went through too.
And about the terminators:
Why send the old T2 model in? Why not send the liquid metal ones? They seemed like they were much more advanced. Why did skynet roll back to a previous model?
So many questions...
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I was wondering how the head went through too.
And about the terminators:
Why send the old T2 model in? Why not send the liquid metal ones? They seemed like they were much more advanced. Why did skynet roll back to a previous model?
So many questions...
Because Fox didn't have the budget for a liquid metal terminator to be a regular character ;)
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Or perhaps Skynet being destroyed in T2 but the terminators behind the 8-ball for a few years and they hadn't made the liquid metal ones yet when this takes place.
Time travel makes my head hurt.
Jouster
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Hmm, could be. Arnie #3 wasnt a liquid metal one..
Anyway, episode 3 tonight on Fox..
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Hmm, could be. Arnie #3 wasnt a liquid metal one..
Anyway, episode 3 tonight on Fox..
Yeah, but the Terminatrix was apparently a more advanced model that mixed parts of Arnie's model with the T-1000 liquid metal model.
Trying to make sense of it is just futile. ;D
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The t-2000 (liquid metal guy) was their one and only prototype for that technology. Tests proved it to be less durable so they abandoned it, downgrading it to a weapons system later on... AFTER the events of termintor 2 and the tv series (see termintor 3).
Yes, the fact that the termintor exoskeleton went through the portal was dumb, but what just happen to it in the last episode was even stupider. But if we are going to get technical here, the t-2000 and t-3000 were coverd in liquid metal, NOT skin and they went through. So explain that one to me?
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Time portal 2.0 - the upgrade.
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Which I would be fine with if Sarah hadn't specifically asked the female terminator if she had any weapons in the pilot to which she replied: "No weapons... organics only.... not even clothing can pass through the time portal."
Also in the pilot you don't see the terminator head fly through the portal, but in the next episode you do (they cg-ed it in).
My guess is they just fudged this silly sub-plot into the story at the last minute, which is a shame because aside from it, it is a really good series.
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I guess they needed the head to go through the portal to wake up the terminator at the right time.
Maybe the people wanted to add some nudity to the series and decided to say that clothes cannot travel through the time portal. First to show some Arnie muscles and later some female curves.
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Im starting to loose interest in this show..
Spoiler:
I mean what was the point of the girl killing herself? Was it just time filling?
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The t-2000 (liquid metal guy) was their one and only prototype for that technology. Tests proved it to be less durable so they abandoned it, downgrading it to a weapons system later on... AFTER the events of termintor 2 and the tv series (see termintor 3).
Yes, the fact that the termintor exoskeleton went through the portal was dumb, but what just happen to it in the last episode was even stupider. But if we are going to get technical here, the t-2000 and t-3000 were coverd in liquid metal, NOT skin and they went through. So explain that one to me?
Im taking a stab here i havent seen this tv series yet but i would say the liquid metal terminators can go through cause their liquid metal can act like skin (as you see in the movie altho thats cause they where human actors)
The liquid can allow them to carry weapons as the liquid metal masks them same as it masks their exoskeleton
Now the t-2000 could change the liquid into sharp metal points like knifes as he and the t-3000 use the same type of liquid metal to hide their exoskeletons (well only for the t-3000) and weapons as is the case with t-3000 i would say the reason they could go through is cause of the liquid metal can turn into skin as that is its main purpose to allow them to become human looking and go back in time. The t-3000 isn't much different she just has weapons built onto her exoskeleton and the liquid metal allows her to have a hand where as the t-2000 was all liquid metal.
But as you said its silly the head came through as its not ment to be able to come through or it might be able to come through but it can't function hence the terminators need a skin to travel back in time and complete it's mission
Altho i don't know how the head transmitted to this other terminator so the theory that they are useless if sent as the exoskeleton might not hold water
Just a though :)
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I think its probably best not to overthink this series. None of them hold up to logic.
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Ummm, aren't most clothes organic? (Cotton, leather, etc) ;) ;D
And for the record people (I'm looking at you Mr I'm perfect HC):
T2 = T-1000
T3 = T-X
I'm not even a big fan and I knew that. :laugh2:
What I want to know is why skynet didn't send the T-1000000 back in time. ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T2_3-D:_Battle_Across_Time
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Ummm, aren't most clothes organic? (Cotton, leather, etc) ;) ;D
Polyester, nylon, spandex, etc. They're not nearly as organic as they used to be.
I don't get the girl killing herself either. The whole thing seemed to be a setup so the terminator could say "I tried to give her a tight present."
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Im starting to loose interest in this show..
Spoiler:
I mean what was the point of the girl killing herself? Was it just time filling?
I think part of the purpose of the girl killing herself is to build John's character as becoming a leader, hence the argument he had with his mom about it afterwards.
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Ummm, aren't most clothes organic? (Cotton, leather, etc) ;) ;D
And for the record people (I'm looking at you Mr I'm perfect HC):
T2 = T-1000
T3 = T-X
I'm not even a big fan and I knew that. :laugh2:
What I want to know is why skynet didn't send the T-1000000 back in time. ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T2_3-D:_Battle_Across_Time
Because that would be A) cool and B) would almost prove there really are robots from the future trying to kill humans so skynet may not be made afterall.
That and arent they for guard duty not to mention expensive to make or something like that? I thought the liquid metal was tough to refine or whatever.
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It's not organic things that go thru; it's living things.
As for the head going thru, it was initially covered with living tissue, but burnt off on it's travel thru time, because it wasn't completely covered.
Or something. *shrug*
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I think a good show would explain these things to the audience. Look at all the questions and assumptions that have been discussed in this thread alone. A good story line does not leave so much for the audience to guess about.
They could have easily explained the head if you could see skin flying off it as it came through, maybe when it hit the car hood, but all I saw was the metal skull. (Perhaps the gross factor, no wait, they didnt consider that when the doctor cut the newly skinned terminators eye slots????)
It would be nice (and advantageous to the show) if there are writers of the show reading this thread.
Kinda looks to me like they are taking key hotspots from the films and just redoing them.
Cant wait for someone to tell the terminator that it smells like you have a dead cat in there. (Remember what arnie said to that.)
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It's not organic things that go thru; it's living things.
Then hair, fingernails, etc wouldn't go through either.
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Perhaps there is some sort of organic compound they are encased in before entering the portal.
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It's not organic things that go thru; it's living things.
Then hair, fingernails, etc wouldn't go through either.
It was explained in the book fairly well. Living beings emit a field around them, so things like hair and nails will go thru.
Of course, it was only short hair in the book. When Kyle went thru, his body hair was burned down quite shortly. Doesn't explain what happens to Sarah and Summer's character.
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Why can't (or don't) they hide a gun inside their bodies then?
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Why can't (or don't) they hide a gun inside their bodies then?
In the comics a team of Terminators took one of the rebels, opened him up and did just that.
Why they haven't done that in a movie...can't say, I didn't write it.
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It's not organic things that go thru; it's living things.
Then hair, fingernails, etc wouldn't go through either.
It was explained in the book fairly well. Living beings emit a field around them, so things like hair and nails will go thru.
Of course, it was only short hair in the book. When Kyle went thru, his body hair was burned down quite shortly. Doesn't explain what happens to Sarah and Summer's character.
Ahhh, OK.
So they just need to wear tight fitting clothes, like tube tops and such. :P
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I was wondering because the terminator (disguised as a teacher) has a gun hidden inside his leg in TV episode 1. Why not something more advanced from the future? Guess there is no "technical" reason they don't do it. Ah well.
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He probably had it hidden in there because you can't just carry a gun into a school. Why do the Terminators need guns, anyway? Couldn't he just walk up to the kid and twist his head off?
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He probably had it hidden in there because you can't just carry a gun into a school.
It was more the fact that there was enough space there to hide the gun in his leg at all. ie that there would also be enough space inside a terminator to bring stuff with it through the time portal.
I guess they need guns because they are a bit sluggish when they are looking for a target. For some reason they can outrun a car, but when chasing a little boy they don't have enough speed :)
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Here's an interesting thought:
Why not just cover a trunk with the same skin that covers the robot, stuff the trunk with plasma guns, photon torpedoes, flux capacitors, or anything else that will fit, then just toss the trunk in behind the robot?
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Haven't it always been in the movie that they didn't have much time and sent a terminator back to get john? If so then they probably didn't have time to make a trunk full of arms
Isn't the whole purpose a terminator doesn't need guns? he's only needed guns when another terminator comes through
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Isn't the whole purpose a terminator doesn't need guns? he's only needed guns when another terminator comes through
The metal skeleton types always seem to use guns though. But still, yes they would need the gun to fight another terminator. I just got a bit bored by the terminators throwing each other around with no damage done at all. Why do they even bother with their slapping and pushing? If they go back in time with a weapon that could actually damage another terminator then at least they could hurt each other.
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That is true the exoskeleton terminators always seem to use guns but in almost every terminator movie (im abit fuzzy about this) didn't they send a terminator to kill john and they didn't know the underground sent a older terminator unit back to protect john? put that together with the terminators not thinking they needed weapons to kill john that might be why they never brought weapons besides T3 terminator
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Ah true. Even in this TV series the terminator didn't seem to know about the girlbot.
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and what a hot girl bot indeed :D
Im gonna have to download this to see her in action
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Fox is doing a encore tonight of episode 1, so if anyone missed it, nows your time to check out the hot bot..
Tonight 7:00 PM Central on Fox.
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Strange, the show's website states new episode tonight. Local (Portland, OR) Fox lineup for tonight says they're showing a Harlem Globetrotters Special.
Kinda used to Fox switching thier shows all over the place each week.
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Hmmm, maybe I need to double check, could be the new show comes on at 8:00 or 9:00 (CST)?
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The very first episode is playing right now in Central time zone..
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Anyone see the episode tonight? I missed it last week, this episode was pretty good..
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I saw it - thought it was pretty good again too. I don't know what happened last week either, but pretty much got back into the story from where I last saw it (cheerleader who jumped and its aftermath, etc).
Next week's looks like fun - apparently there will be some looks into the future.
Best line: Sarah: "Field trip, let's go." John: "I call shotgun" Terminator girl (forgot name, sorry): "I call 9 millimeter."
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I havent seen more than 5 min of the show yet, (caught the tail end) but that
Terminator is 'Summer Glau'. I saw her in the movie 'Serenity' and she was
simply amazing. Great acting, and also, her fight sceens were great too! And
ooo, she is dreamy :)
I have to say, I saw the movie Serenity on accident when HBO was on in the
background... and I figured it would be some hokey b rate movie. Boy was I
wrong! That movie kicked some serious A**! :) You HAVE to see it!
Awesome Story. Awesome Action. Awesome Acting.
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I havent seen more than 5 min of the show yet, (caught the tail end) but that
Terminator is 'Summer Glau'. I saw her in the movie 'Serenity' and she was
simply amazing. Great acting, and also, her fight sceens were great too! And
ooo, she is dreamy :)
I have to say, I saw the movie Serenity on accident when HBO was on in the
background... and I figured it would be some hokey b rate movie. Boy was I
wrong! That movie kicked some serious A**! :) You HAVE to see it!
Awesome Story. Awesome Action. Awesome Acting.
You should probably check out the show Firefly because Serenity was a continuation of the show.
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Bumping this back up for discussion. The wife talked me into watching this show. Here are some of my thoughts:
I was casually entertained by the first 2-3 episodes. Not bad, but not great either. I have no clue what they were thinking with the half-assed suicide girl subplot. That was extrmely poorly executed.
The last 3-4 episodes have been really good though. I think this show has the potential to be really good. I wouldn't be surprised if it is cancelled though, mainly due to the fact that a future trilogy has been planned with Christian Bale as the lead. I doubt they want a conflicting small screen story going on.
Some random thoughts:
-Summer Glau is HOT. I never thought she was very pretty in Firefly or Serenity, but my, my she has matured.
- I have accepted the woman playing Sarah. She does a pretty darn good job.
- The casting of John was done very well. He seems to be a melding of the T2 and T3 John's.
- I accept the time jump forward and the role of T3. The time jump forward served 2 purposes: it brought the cast into current times to reduce budget costs (no making sure sets reflected 1999), it also served the purpose that T3 never happened. (well, the nuclear holocaust would have still happened, but I'll overlook that ;)).
- The Fed. character is pointless. His part in the newest episode was cool though. >:D
- I really like the mystery behind the female Terminator. I think there is something VERY special about her as has been alluded to, and that the Turk plays an important role more for her than for Skynet in general.
-Final thoughts: I really like this show now and hope that it gets another season just to see where it goes. I think the show could do a better job tying up the mythology than 3 new movies could do. Money talks though, and blockbuster movies make a hell of alot more money than a mid-level TV show.
* note, just in case you didn't pick up on it, pay attention to the music at the end of the newest episode.
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- The Fed. character is pointless. His part in the newest episode was cool though. >:D
We have no way of knowing that yet. He could easily do something that is very very important. His intercepting the hand and taking it to a place Sarah could intercept it could be hugely important. Sarah can't get it from an evidence lockup to destroy it but she got it easily from the trunk of his car.
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Yeah, now it is pretty much obvious he is gonna become an ally to them. So yes, he makes much more sense now. He was just treading water up until then on the show and it was starting to bug me.
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The whole "hey the doctor actually believes it" scene would have played out a ton better if they could have used clips from the movie. People who haven't seen the movie would have no idea wtf he was talking about and their conversation did little to make it clear. It just made the doctor look like a random Pulp Fiction wacko.
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It just made the doctor look like a random Pulp Fiction wacko.
That's not necessarily a bad thing.
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I think the terminator is getting a soul.
May explain the suicidal girl. The she-term wanted to be friends with her before she jumped. Its building up to the she-term becoming more human. (Or maybe Im watching too much battle star galactica, the new series).
But i am wondering why the she-term kept the cpu from the male term?
Anyone else catch the scene of her sticking the removed cpu in her pocket?
Maybe she is still pro-skynet? (Or maybe she realizes that if skynet is not made, she will cease to exist?)
Anyway, i think the last show of the season is tonight. Seems like it's cutting a little short but I distinctly remember a commercial saying that.
I like the series.
Only thing missing is Ahnold... (But is that really a bad thing?)
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DaOld Man do you have any idea where i can download the 2 hour finale? I missed it and the only place i found that has it is the fox website and i would prefer to download it to watch at my leisure.
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I missed the first 45 min b/c I thought it would still start at 9 even tho it was the 2-hr finale.. :hissy:
VG
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DaOld Man do you have any idea where i can download the 2 hour finale? I missed it and the only place i found that has it is the fox website and i would prefer to download it to watch at my leisure.
I see its available on any of the torrent sites , since you do not like to watch it on FOX's website.
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DaOld Man do you have any idea where i can download the 2 hour finale? I missed it and the only place i found that has it is the fox website and i would prefer to download it to watch at my leisure.
No sorry I dont know. I didnt tape it...
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Watched it, liked it. It is obvious that it was not intended to be the finale, but worked as a cliffhanger anyways. If I had to guess, the 9th episode would have originally aired around the Christmas holiday break if the show would have aired in the Fall as planned. Anyways, I hope this show comes back. It has the potential to really hit a stride in a second season.
Mild Spoiler: Stop here if you haven't watched the finale!!
I Really liked the way they did the Cromartie Vs. Feds encounter! The music, the lead-up, the pool, everything was just super cool!! It just goes to show that clever indirect views to action can actually be better than the direct action.
That was my favorite scene of the whole series.
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BTW, the nielsen ratings show that 8 million people watched the finale. That is pretty darn impressive considering the current post strike slump that has killed most new shows. My guesstimate is that if the strike never happened, this show would have around 12-13 million watchers.
This show was supposed to be tied to "24". That never happened of course, and the show was forced to stand on its own and I think did well. My gut feeling is that this show will be back to be paired with "24" as originally planned in 2009.
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Mild Spoiler: Stop here if you haven't watched the finale!!
I agree with all you said about that last scene. Superb.
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I Really liked the way they did the Cromartie Vs. Feds encounter! The music, the lead-up, the pool, everything was just super cool!! It just goes to show that clever indirect views to action can actually be better than the direct action.
That was my favorite scene of the whole series.
Both my wife and I said the same thing: It was pretty, and artsy, and completely out of line with the rest of the series. It also made zero sense that, knowing the dude is a terminator, the agent would make a raid on him anyway. Ellison spent all that time telling people he believed, found a terminator, and then attacked it head on. Duh. The whole thing was seriously forced into the show so they could have that spiffy Johnny Cash underwater scene. That belonged in some movie I probably wouldn't bother seeing. I'm not a fan of the current "ultraviolence juxtaposed with unexpected music" trend that seems to be in every A list artsy action movie now.
I did really like Reese taking John to see his father for his birthday. Didn't see that one coming. That was a fantastic gift. I figured it was just some random kids playing ball.
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Both my wife and I said the same thing: It was pretty, and artsy, and completely out of line with the rest of the series. It also made zero sense that, knowing the dude is a terminator, the agent would make a raid on him anyway. Ellison spent all that time telling people he believed, found a terminator, and then attacked it head on. Duh.
Why wouldn't it make sense? He's a cocky F.B.I. agent with a full SWAT team. He now believes that Sarah Connor took out a few of them herself, so he figured it would be easy with a whole armed to the teeth team. That was the whole point of the exercise - to show him that he didn't mean crap and that the Terminator was WAY more powerful than he originally thought.
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He wasn't a cocky FBI agent. He was a man of heavy faith that has come to believe the apocalypse is imminent and soon. He knew what he was potentially up against. It would make sense for the other agent to lead that raid but for Ellison it was out of line with the direction his character had come.
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I take it this scene is question (Ellison vs Cromartie) was after Reese's birthday present to John? I thought I was missing something. Damn DVR stopped recording right after John was crying. I was like where are all the SWAT agents that they showed in the commercials?? Guess I need to start recording this show when it comes back on (it will, I know it will) an extra 15 minutes. LOST did this to me in season one and Torchwood did it to me earlier this year. :angry:
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Yeah, they stormed the Terminator and he killed them all and threw them off the balcony into the pool. The whole scene was showed from the bottom of the pool - all you saw was dudes dropping into the pool and turning red - while a Johnny Cash song played. It was in slow motion just to put the pretension over the top a bit more.
At the end Ellison is the only one still standing. The Terminator walks up to him, points a gun at his chest, and walks away without shooting while Ellison shakes the brick from his pants.
While this is going on a random bulletin goes over the EMT/Police band asking units to stand by, describing the FBI raid, and giving out way too much info on a public broadcast frequency. The EMT guy not only hears it, figures it out from the info, and happens to be a block away. He shows up just in time to see the Terminator walking away. He then run into the courtyard and gives Ellison a "you dumb ---fudgesicle---" look and they cut away.
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The EMT guy is Sarah's ex boyfriend. he knows all about the terminators. He knew what was going on, why he rushed there I dont get, unless he wanted to see it for himself, or maybe he thought John and sarah were involved too.
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The EMT guy is Sarah's ex boyfriend. he knows all about the terminators. He knew what was going on, why he rushed there I dont get, unless he wanted to see it for himself, or maybe he thought John and sarah were involved too.
That's the point - they don't announce raids over public frequencies before they happen and they absolutely don't broadcast the name of the person about to be raided.
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I agree... they should not be bcasting that FBI are raiding some place... the exact address, and who they're raiding...
that said... I still enjoyed the show.... looking forard to the next season !!
:)
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Bumped due to news:
http://tv.ign.com/articles/866/866880p1.html
Looks like the show will be back in the fall.
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Nice. I hope it comes back.
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This is good news. I enjoyed the show.
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That's great news.
I'm a late convert to the show, and because of that I've only actually seen the last three episodes. But I've been pleasantly surprised by how good it is.
The budget is obviously ridiculously low compared to the movies but they've done a very credible job with the resources they were given.
I also really liked the final shootout between the Swat team and Cromartie. Very effectively done. The sense of impending doom reminds me a bit of the final shootout at the end of The Wild Bunch. Yes of course it was artsy and pretentious but I like artsy and pretentious. ;D
And Summer Glau is utterly hypnotic as the good Terminator. I'd watch the show just to see her. I honestly don't understand how anyone could describe her as being below average. I guess there's no accounting for taste.
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Bumped due to news:
http://tv.ign.com/articles/866/866880p1.html
Looks like the show will be back in the fall.
Sweeeetttt!!!!!!
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I just saw a preview for the new season, so it looks like the show is definately coming back ;D
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The budget is obviously ridiculously low compared to the movies but they've done a very credible job with the resources they were given.
At the same time, ridiculously high for a first season TV show. Glad to see it's coming back, though a little concerned. It took them like three years to make Season 1. Hope this one doesn't turn out like a hot band's second rushed and crappy album.
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They have also elevated Brian Austen Green and the Terminator guy to regular cast status. I was not a fan of the terminator guy...until the finale. He was a ---smurfing--- badass and he didn't even do anything on screen! :laugh2:
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Bumped to just let you know that fox is re-running the first season of this series on TV. (May have started last week, I just noticed it last Wednesday night and it came on again last night.) I think last night was the third or fourth episode.
Getting ready for the new series I guess.
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Another episode has just come on right now on Fox.
Central time: 8:17 pm
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yet another episode tonight. 8:00 PM CST USA.